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#61 priceless

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 12:04 PM

I can remember as a youngster early in my lessons, I saw a drummer twirling his sticks.   At my following lesson, I asked my instructor to show me how to do that. My instructor (a gentleman ironically named Trin Drumley, responded:  I'm teaching you to be a drummer, not to be a majorette.

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Posted 04 January 2017 - 11:18 AM

View Postpriceless, on 29 December 2016 - 12:04 PM, said:

I can remember as a youngster early in my lessons, I saw a drummer twirling his sticks.   At my following lesson, I asked my instructor to show me how to do that. My instructor (a gentleman ironically named Trin Drumley, responded:  I'm teaching you to be a drummer, not to be a majorette.

Tell that to..."Mr. Tommy Aldridge on the drumkit!!..."




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Posted 15 January 2017 - 08:19 PM

i am picking up a new kit tomorrow i think. gretsch renown 2 piece kit(bass drum and floor tom). i may add a rack tom at some point. ill get a pic up when i get it.

http://charlotte.cra...5902811333.html

got him down to 475 for the kit.

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 08:24 PM

View Postprsgtrman, on 15 January 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

i am picking up a new kit tomorrow i think. gretsch renown 2 piece kit(bass drum and floor tom). i may add a rack tom at some point. ill get a pic up when i get it.

http://charlotte.cra...5902811333.html

got him down to 475 for the kit.

Nice!! Those sound great!
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Posted 16 January 2017 - 07:12 PM

sigh well i decided not to buy the kit for no real reason other than i dont need it. i got caught up in the "deal" but it is still 475 bucks i dont really need to spend. so i got some new heads instead. trying out the evans 56 calftone heads. i also got a tune bot.

quick question i was using a 14 floor tom and 12 rack tom. essentially the tune-bot said that configuration was stupid(i assume it is stupid bc it didnt list that in the "configurations" of toms hahaha) so i switched out to a 10". for the record i have a 8, 10 and 12 rack toms but i just dont want that many toms.  so the question is.... is the 10 rack tom and 14 floor tom the most common configuration? for the record my 10 rack tom is tuned to 3c and the 14 floor tom is 2f(perfect 5th according to tune bot).

next quick question is my snare is tuned to 3G. should i tune it to something else? i dont know a ton about theory but i know c f g is 1st 4th 5th, so it makes sense to me but i dont know if i will achieve better sound or a more natural progression between the 3 drums if i tune the snare to something different.


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Posted 16 January 2017 - 08:40 PM

At least you have self control LOL! I'm a one kit guy myself, I still have my old kits of course, but I shelled out for it and choose the specs so my hoing would be snare drums, eventually.

I say use whatever you like, I don't tune my drums to a specific pitch either. I feel like each specific drum usually has a pitch it "likes" to be tuned at, a point where the drum sings without weird overtones. Also head selection, and the room the drums sit in make a difference. I guess I'm oldschool, but I say use your ear, or use the tuner to get close then fine tune. As for drum configurations, I've seen it ALL! So I say play with the set up that your most comfortable with!


EDIT: Had to look up the Tune-bot, that thing looks bad a$$ haha. I'm so far behind when it comes to drummer tech. I haven't bought a Modern Drummer in like 4 years, I used to but that every month religiously.

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 07:22 AM

i may be over thinking the drum tunings a little but i since tuning the toms to the perfect fifth i like the natural tension and resolution of the drums.

my bass drum just sounds dead which is my biggest complaint about my set up.

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Posted 17 January 2017 - 04:55 PM

I overthink things all the time haha. That device has to help though, nothing more frustrating than tuning a drum sometimes, but there is nothing more satisfying than being able to find that perfect tuning where the drum sings and also feels great too.

As for the bass drum, the best set up I found for my bass drum (20x18 birch) is an Aquarian Super Kick II, Evan's EQ Kick pillow, and an Aquarian ported resonant head which had this built in muffling ring. The EQ pillow is small and adjustable. I had it barely touching the batter head. I had way too much muffling inside before, the EQ pillow works well.

Lastly regarding bass drum sound, technique plays a big role in sound. I've always played heel down, which I seem to be in the minority there but what it does is allow me to control the beater better. If I want a "big" or longer note (legato) I don't leave the beater on the head. I'll pull the sound out of the bass drum and allow it to resonate as opposed to burying the beater into the head and leaving it there (shorter, staccato note).  If you tune it right, with minimal muffling and combine it with the "feathering" or light bass pedal technique you can get that nice boom out of the kick almost like an 808 bass drum sound or electronic "bass drop" lol. I hope I'm making sense, you might already know this. So I feel like being able to play heel down gives you more control, heel up for more power. I suck playing heel up though for some reason, I'm self taught and I didn't know any better than to play heel down haha.

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 03:37 PM

Old one, but I'll bump it up!!  

I haven't played in about 7 years since I moved out to CA, played as a hobby all the time back east and had some fun in a high school band...  but I am getting the itch again to pick up a kit, I just don't have a lot of space so it would most likely be a 4 piece for now.  Had a Pearl Export Pro as my first kit then upgraded to a Pearl Session Sudio Birch, sold that before I moved out here and then got my hands on a ddrum Reflex kit which actually blew me away sound wise and was very comfortable to play...  I like to listen to, and play, mostly hard rock/metal.  Looking to stay on somewhat of a budget but do you guys have any recommendations as far as kits and cymbals go?  I feel like I have been away too long...

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:42 PM

Ill  be back bashing on the drums now the days are getting shorter and nights colder. sorry i dont have any drum reccos for you. i personally would pick up a 3 piece kit and then get whatever snare you like the sound of. something like the gretsch renown( i saw a guy selling a lightly used 3 piece for about 475 bux last winter -kicking myself i didnt buy it).


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Posted 05 October 2017 - 07:53 PM

View Postprsgtrman, on 05 October 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

Ill  be back bashing on the drums now the days are getting shorter and nights colder. sorry i dont have any drum reccos for you. i personally would pick up a 3 piece kit and then get whatever snare you like the sound of. something like the gretsch renown( i saw a guy selling a lightly used 3 piece for about 475 bux last winter -kicking myself i didnt buy it).

It's all good... funny timing... went to guitar center today with my 2 1/2 year old and the wife, little one likes to play around there and I love to see whats new. On the way out there was a beautiful 7 piece PDP Maple concept that I must have pitched a tent over without quite realizing it...  Came home thinking about it as the wife went out to a "work appointment".  She texts me about an hour later asking if I could come out and help bring in groceries, those groceries turned out to be that maple concept kit.  I am still in shock and can't believe she loves me that much.  LOL.  I will post up a pic once they are set up, but damn, they are beautiful.  Already makes me feel like I don't suck as bad as I do!!!!!

EDIT* Here they are... excuse the other junk in the garage..LOL

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 08:57 PM

jesus lord!!! i guess youre back haha. congrats man. dunno if you have read thru this thread but if youre looking for online content mike johnson is ridiculous(the paid site, tons of content and broken down by ability).

whats up with those cymbals? they look to be the sound reduction type?

nice pick up man heck of a wife!!

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Posted 07 October 2017 - 10:13 PM

View Postprsgtrman, on 07 October 2017 - 08:57 PM, said:

jesus lord!!! i guess youre back haha. congrats man. dunno if you have read thru this thread but if youre looking for online content mike johnson is ridiculous(the paid site, tons of content and broken down by ability).

whats up with those cymbals? they look to be the sound reduction type?

nice pick up man heck of a wife!!

HAHA!!  Yeah, I out kicked my coverage for sure... I am a lucky man.  

The cymbals are the Zildjian low volume design... Lots of houses out here where I am are close together and don't have a ton of interior home space for things like this so the garage is the only other option but the noise can be heard for miles it seems.. LOL..   I have the silent stroke Remo heads on the drums for now also.... great for just practicing around and can be used with drum triggers if I want to get some actual sound out of them but for now, I just need to practice and will check out what you've recommended, thanks!   The Ddrum reflex kit I had a while back was a GREAT sounding kit for the money but this one by PDP is going to be amazing with some better heads and the hardware on the drums themselves, is sturdier.  Great quality for the money with this set, looking forward to improving a bit!
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