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Now that it's legal, Going to use a rangefinder?


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Now that it's legal, Going to use a rangefinder?

  1. Yes, I will use one next year (241 votes [76.75%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.75%

  2. No, I will still walk it off from a yardage marker (73 votes [23.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.25%

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#61 Xt1ncT

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Posted 03 September 2006 - 08:56 PM

I just bought an iGolf GPS Caddie and used it for the first time on Saturday.

What an excellent device, gives you yardage to the front, centre and back of the green. You can also click the button from where you hit your shot, walk to your ball and press the button again and it tells you how far you hit it - great for the practise range at our course, I'll be able to work out how far I hit all my clubs, and also calibrate my "Pelz" wedge system.

Another great feature is that you can add up to 8 custom points per hole. So you can measure to front middle and back pin positions and add them, and also add bunkers/hazards etc and add them. I downloaded 4 courses that I play regularly and you can get a lot more from the site - there is a subscription of $20 a year, but that's not much to get upto 50 courses a year.


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Posted 08 September 2006 - 03:01 PM

My wife got me a Skycaddie for our anniversary about 10 days ago.  I've played a few rounds with it, all on courses that they have mapped.  So far, I really like it.  I guess it would be nice to know exactly how far the pin is, but for me, the front, back, and middle are good enough.  I'm playing at elevation, with wind, and up and down hills, I can't say for sure how far to the yard I carry my irons.  I also like the yards to  carry  bunkers, hills, trees, etc.   Alot of the courses here in this state have been mapped, and I guess my home course was only mapped about 3 or 4 weeks ago.  The yardages they give are almost  always within one, occasionally  two yards from what our couse has on the sprinkler heads, so they seem pretty accurate to me.  

I can see where I could be at a disadvantage to elevated greens on a course I've never played, but for my home course and 95% of the time on courses I haven't played, I can pretty much figure out where the pin is.

I definately would say that I hit shots closer to the hole than I would have without it in the rounds I have played.  And I feel more confident with my approaches, not just knowing pretty much the yardage to the pin, but knowing how far it is say to the back of the green, or to carry a bunker.  The perfect example is with a back pin, knowing the yardage to go over the green, and playing say for a couple of yards short of the pin and feeling pretty confident that I won't go over the green no matter how flush I hit the shot.
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Posted 15 September 2006 - 07:20 AM

As soon as I can find one that is somewhat affordable, yes.

I am planning on using one.

There are many courses that lack when it comes to keeping their yardages accurate or easily found.
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Posted 22 September 2006 - 12:11 PM

WTF? I just read about the technology used in these rangefinder units.  What is next a laser guided "smart" ball? I will definitely not be using a range finder.  Some things should just not be allowed in golf.

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 02:33 PM

Are rangefinders with slope still considered illegal?

I already know that rangefinders without slope can be used in tournament play now.


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Posted 04 October 2006 - 06:43 AM

Already have a Leica rangefinder for rifle shooting but I would never use one on the golf course.

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Posted 13 October 2006 - 04:00 AM

I've been using rangefinders for the last 4 years now and personally think they're great. Exspecially when playing an unknown course. I also found that it speeds up play significantly, if used properly. My current unit has slope so I can't use it in tourneys but I use my own yardage book anyways (created using a rangefinder of course).

However you find me a little confused. First of all the use of rangefinders was never forbidden at all unless you're playing a tournament or EDS round of course. As of Jan 1st they're allowed in tournament rounds IF the local comittee says so via a local rule. As of today I have yet to encounter a course which has such a local rule. As I'm living in Germany I wouldn't consider this fact overly impressive, as most clubs over here probably haven't even noticed the opportunity. But I'm curious what the quota is in other countries, how many say yes vs. no?

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 01:13 AM

is it worth the extra $$$ to get the bushnell 1500 with slope or should i just get the bushnell 1500 tournament edition?

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 06:31 AM

View Postceks, on Dec 17 2006, 12:13 AM, said:

is it worth the extra $$$ to get the bushnell 1500 with slope or should i just get the bushnell 1500 tournament edition?

If you are thinking about tournament play,

there is a reason they call it the tournament edition.

Because it's legal.

(The slope is not legal - as to it's worth, it may help train you to judge slope - so when you don't have it with you during a hc round or tourney, you can take an educated guess)

Edited by SwingMan, 17 December 2006 - 06:34 AM.

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 06:37 AM

View PostThe Boom Bapp, on Sep 15 2006, 06:20 AM, said:

As soon as I can find one that is somewhat affordable, yes.

I am planning on using one.

There are many courses that lack when it comes to keeping their yardages accurate or easily found.


I've seen the new edition of the Nikon 500g model 8351, and with the new scan feature - just keep the button pressed to get different yardages while you scan, I've seen it for abour $260 on the web. Compact and water resistant

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 02:56 PM

Just go a SG4.

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Posted 22 January 2007 - 05:57 PM

Just bought Nikon 500G ,
Smaller size  than 1500 and cheaper.

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Posted 23 January 2007 - 11:15 AM

definatley going to use one now.  If anything it helps when i practice to learn my distances with my wedges and become more accurate from 100 yards in.

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 04:50 AM

Can I just ask, are there any models from any respectable companies that measure in METRES? Because I'd be interested in using one from practice.

Just out of interest, are these rangefinders only allowed under USGA or are they also legal in R&A rules?

Josh

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 07:18 AM

Its pretty easy to change from yrds to metres Josh.

Divide the yrds by 1.09 cos 3ft is a yrd.
100cm = 1m.
If an inch is 2.55cm, then there is 91.8cm to a yrd.
100/91.8 = roughly 1.089 or 1.1 for a very rough estimate.
Therefore 150 yrds = roughly 137m. :) lol

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Posted 24 January 2007 - 08:52 AM

View Posttanj, on Jan 24 2007, 03:50 AM, said:

Can I just ask, are there any models from any respectable companies that measure in METRES? Because I'd be interested in using one from practice.

Just out of interest, are these rangefinders only allowed under USGA or are they also legal in R&A rules?

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Yes, the Leica Pinmaster changes from yards to meters

I own that one, so I know it does. It is available on ebay -- or was -- under a "make a bid" bidding -- from an authorized retailer in NYC. My bid was $340 - less than a Pinseeker and the Leica has target first priority and red LCDs - it works well for me.

You might check the websites of the other two -- Nikon and Pinseeker -- I would think they would convert between the two like the Leica.
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Posted 24 January 2007 - 09:30 AM

I guess I would use one when I practice, but yardage books seem to do the same thing?
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 04:26 PM

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 01:16 PM

View Posttanj, on Jan 24 2007, 03:50 AM, said:

Can I just ask, are there any models from any respectable companies that measure in METRES? Because I'd be interested in using one from practice.

Just out of interest, are these rangefinders only allowed under USGA or are they also legal in R&A rules?

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The Pinseeker 1500 is switchable between yards and meters

http://www.bushnell....2_Pinseeker.pdf

Edited by JoeF, 29 January 2007 - 01:21 PM.


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Posted 11 March 2007 - 10:04 PM

I messed with one and sorta had fun doing so.........I think there great but I don't own one.

To a few of you who think it's "not good for the game".....get a clue. I play plenty of course that the tell you of your distances all over the fairways on sprinkler heads.....front, middle, and back every five yards or so. Then on some course the sprinkler heads are to hard to find with little info.

My point is that there are plenty of course that give tons of info..should this not be allowed also? Is it "bad for the game"? Or maybe you would like to wait longer on the tee because some guys are walking around the whole fairway looking for a sprinkler head while they could have just walked to their ball, shoot the distance and play the shot?  Your beef is "weak" to say the least!

My only beef about range finders are this.............80% of your shots still come up SHORT no matter what the yardage says and how ever you got it.....Now if they only made a range finder that would be off by 10  yards so one would take an extra club, then some handicaps might drop. Bottom line, they are a fun toy!
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 04:36 PM

Range finders help speed up play.  Plus they give you the distance to the pin, not the middle of the green.
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 09:07 AM

Got this ruling from the USGA-Director of Regional Affiars-Central Region:

Although permitted if a local rule is adopted, a significant number of golf associations have chosen to NOT permit the use of distance measuring devices. The majority view is that at high level competition, players already have access to sufficient distance information through other means (caddies, yardage books, etc.) and that the devices would be counterproductive in improving pace of play. A few associations that allowed the devices in 2006 have changed their policies and now ban them for just that reason.



The USGA does not allow their use in USGA Championships or qualifying. However, we are officially neutral as to allowing their use by other groups. I would estimate that the use of these devices is allowed in 30% or less of events conducted at the regional or state level. The individual golfer should check with the sponsoring organization in advance in regards to their policy.



I hope this helps with your decision.

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Posted 08 June 2007 - 12:13 AM

Quote

Got this ruling from the USGA-Director of Regional Affiars-Central Region:

Although permitted if a local rule is adopted, a significant number of golf associations have chosen to NOT permit the use of distance measuring devices. The majority view is that at high level competition, players already have access to sufficient distance information through other means (caddies, yardage books, etc.) and that the devices would be counterproductive in improving pace of play. A few associations that allowed the devices in 2006 have changed their policies and now ban them for just that reason.



The USGA does not allow their use in USGA Championships or qualifying. However, we are officially neutral as to allowing their use by other groups. I would estimate that the use of these devices is allowed in 30% or less of events conducted at the regional or state level. The individual golfer should check with the sponsoring organization in advance in regards to their policy.

Thanks for posting that info...As far as the poll goes...I know I'm a luddite (grab a dictionary :D ) but if you ever see me grabbing a yadage by using one...grab my 5812 out of my bag, it's got the highest swingweight, and knock me a good one...my grandfather would have.  Technology is awesome but visually estimating yardages based on landmarks, terrain features, etc. even the local yardage book  speaks to the spirit of the game.  Before anyone piles on know that if the rules allow it I am not against it for you...I just don't embrace it, and yes if you do and you v me you should have an advantage...if you can hit that shot...J

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:31 AM

I find my hand is not steady enough to get the yardage fast enough to help speed up play. So i will stay old school and walk it off.

The one thing that drives me crazy is that when you play a high end course they do not have a yardage book available.

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Posted 06 July 2007 - 01:01 AM

I know a group of golfnuts ( just under 100 members  ), that has about 15 statewide tournaments a year plus out of the country golf trip tournaments yearly.  80% of them have a range finder ( mostly Bushnell Pin seeker ); with or without the slope rating.
Now we all know the slope function is not legal in tournament play, but quite a few of them has this function on their range finder.

For me, it really does not matter if I look at a shot 20yards higher and 150 ish to the pin with 8-10 miles head wind vs. OK it's 147 yards EXACTLY, with the slope it plays like 161 yards EAXACTLY with your perfect swing is a 7 iron,  the perfect swing which I might have left at the practice range.

Most the golf course have yardage markers and it really does not need to know the exact yardage to the pin.  The approximate yardage to the front and the back of the green is more important than the exact yardage to the pin for me.  Does it really matters that much for most of the golfers to know the exact yardage to certqain target?  This information would not help a pro all the time, not to an average golfer, for certain.


A good golf course will also have a yardage book available.  In my opinion, the yardage book will help me more than the range finder or GPS device loaded on the golf cart.

The effort to take out, find target through the view finder and put it back after usage, would probably constitute about the same time as I estimate distance with the eyeballing the elevation and feel for the wind element.

This may not be popular, but I'm an old scholl on this subject.


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Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:34 PM

I personally decided to stay within the rules and not buy the slope..but to each his own.  I find it faster to get a measurement to the flag.  My routine is the following:

1)  check flag for color (blue - back, red - front etc)
2)  Laser to pin.
3)  If pin is 160 to Blue flag I know i can play less club if need be.  Front flag, same philosophy (front flag distance, so ok if i am a little long).

I can't imagine going back to pacing yardages off, this saves me time and frustration of knowing exactly the yardages I need to get to.
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 01:58 AM

I will wait until we get the same ruling over here in the UK then I imagine I will get one
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Posted 26 November 2008 - 10:28 AM

With golf being so slow, why NOT use one?  100% of the time I walk to my ball, shoot the pin, make a club selection before the other guys have even finished pacing off the distance and I am alway walking vs them riding in a car.  Anything for faster golf has to be good for the game that I love but frustrates me because its so SLOW....

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 05:56 AM

View Postanimalistic, on Jan 1 2006, 05:03 PM, said:

no prefer to play the course by feel and factor in wind etc. in my mind

+1, old skoool

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 06:01 AM

View Postjaycajun, on Nov 26 2008, 10:28 AM, said:

With golf being so slow, why NOT use one?  100% of the time I walk to my ball, shoot the pin, make a club selection before the other guys have even finished pacing off the distance and I am alway walking vs them riding in a car.  Anything for faster golf has to be good for the game that I love but frustrates me because its so SLOW....

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