Reasonability, on 16 April 2018 - 09:14 PM, said:
Fellaheen51, on 16 April 2018 - 05:21 PM, said:
Congratulations Reason on completion of your major project. Job well done. And I have enjoyed following along with the mission. Backfilling the trench is a lot easier than digging it.
Leaking outside sillcocks shouldn't present to much difficulty to stop the leaking. May be nothing more than tightening the packing nut. If not, one can replace the entire stem cartridge assembly rather easily. Biggest difficulty may be breaking loose the stem nut, they can become quite corroded. Couple of years back, had a leaking sillcock and rather than repair it, decided to replace the entire unit. Wanted to add anti-siphon capability as it supplied water to the drip irrigation in the garden. Because the old one was soldered, just cut off the pipe and soldered on a threaded brass coupling. (The job becomes easier when you have basement access.) Then just screwed in the new 3/4" x 8" faucet with some pipe dope added. One hour job that was accomplished without a hitch.
We have no choice but to have a rather extensive in-house water treatment system. Everyone has wells out in our area (no public water system). The water is very high in iron content and over 200 PPM in hardness with dissolved minerals (calcium, magnesium). Have a iron removal system, then water softening, and finally a post carbon filter tank. In addition, we run a Reverse Osmosis system to remove further purify the drinking water at the kitchen sink and for ice cube making in a couple of refrigerators. Our area is subject to naturally occurring arsenic in the ground water. One location may have only trace amounts, while another in proximity may have levels that would be of concern and/or potentially unhealthy. Have the RO to remove all trace amounts of arsenic and other dissolved inorganics. Plus have the water tested every couple of years to monitor what is occurring in the groundwater supply.
Does require a fair amount of reoccurring expense and maintenance. But I know exactly what is occurring with our water supply. Assume nothing when it comes to the water we consume. Even from a public source.
Holy hats! That's a lot of home systems to own/operate. Read about major water contamination issues in the greater Detroit area but it never occurred to me you'd be faced with such challenges to get yourself by. Most of us have the usual checklists like rotate tires, mow-de-lawn, yadda. Can't imagine having a routine in life so tethered to tap water.
Hey Tol - did I read correctly a week or two ago? Did you say you collect rain water for your water supply? Is that drinking water, too or just for the garden and such? I can't say I know anyone who isn't either on a well or municipal water system.
Very quick story going back to my childhood. Our little town had a huge water tank atop a hill that held our water supply. They trucked up the hill and all was good since water flows downhill. Worked great until the water main started deteriorating. As in badly deteriorating. Holy cow - water was springing up in back yards, the roads were developing cracks and sinkholes, and they couldn't fill the tank on the hill faster than it siphoned back out.
Millions got spent on that little problem. LOL - when it was good it was good. When it nose-dived it was a city-wide mess. Whenever temps dropped below freezing, the whole town was as slick as Scomacer's Ice.
The major expense was in the initial acquisition of the original equipment. Thereafter, it's the periodic acquisition of salt, changing filters and membranes, etc. Perhaps made it out to be a bigger deal than it really is. Point was that I have to be engaged with maintaining the system, and understanding what needs to be done to have quality water coming out of the tap. At least I don't have to pay a periodic water and sewer bill.
Looks like a new pump will need to be installed in the well this summer. Been noticing a reduction in pressure and volume for the last year. Have 20 years on the current one, so its probably time. Going to run about $2k out of Fella's pocket. It is what it is.
The Detroit Water and Sewer Department (now renamed Great Lakes Water Authority) supplies water and treats wastewater for 126 communities in seven counties in southeast Michigan. Its one of the largest in the country and does a good job in providing those services. The water intake sources being Lake Huron and the Detroit River, the raw water is high quality.
What you were likely referring to is Flint, Mi. They obtained their drinking water from DWSD for over 50 years. Until bureaucrats and governmental lackeys made the decision to turn off the Detroit spigot. And fire up a aged, dormant water treat plant and start providing drinking water to the citizens again. To save a measly $3 M per year! A cluster**** of mammoth proportions. A case study of how politicians and their minions can totally muck up through totally incompetent decisions making processes in areas where they had zero expertise. I could go on about this story for a couple of pages. But won't. I knew several individuals at Flint from by working years, they have been setup as the fall guys. While those involved with the decisions remained untouched. A very tragic story that has yet to reach a conclusion. And has cost the taxpayers of this state many multiples of public dollars over the initial $3M that was to be saved annually.
The governor once famously proclaimed that he'd come to Flint and drink the water to prove that it was safe to consume. When the invite came, he had "other obligations" on his schedule that precluded his so doing.
There is the natural tendency to not consider what is required when we go to the sink for a glass of water. Flush the toilet after a session. The massive amount of infrastructure required to support these two simple, daily routine events. And the dedicated individuals that are engaged with making these two simple events happen. And the costs inherent with updating and maintaining the system infrastructure.
Many cities and suburbs in this country, especially older cities in the east and midwest, have aging infrastructure. Most major cities have areas of water and wastewater pipes that have been in the ground for over 70 years. They wear out and need replacement. Valves, pumps, lift stations, plant updates, all need to be addressed. The EPA estimates that $271 billion will be needed over the next 25 years on the wastewater side alone to meet current and future system demands.
While our elected and unelected officials have allocated no where close to adequate funding. Want to roll back the provisions and regulations inherent with the Clean Water Act. Drastically reduce the engagement and defund the EPA. Sheer madness!!!!!
Edited by Fellaheen51, 17 April 2018 - 05:57 AM.