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#31 rmgatl

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:41 PM

LHL for about 30 years, great lag putter but finally got yippy at close range.  Might go 5 feet past on 5 footer while missing hole by a foot.

Now using LHL with gator RH inside about 20-25 ft and I'm one of the best putters I know.  I always made more than my share of mid range putts, but now surprised when I miss inside 10 ft...feel like I can make them all.  Speed is very good and nearly always start it online.  Use standard LHL for lags.

Couple of thoughts IMHO (1) hard to avoid yips over years/decades of trying hard to make putts the same way...the neural pathways just get fried and (2) the same bit of wrist release that helps feel and distance control on lag putts can eventually become an uncontrollable twitch close in.

Most of us have to change grips and or technique eventually...practicing more doesn't work, you have to use differnt circuits.  Look at tour players...Langer being prime multi-decade example.  I love LHL gator btw.  Love putting again.


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 04:01 PM

Until this past season I was a right hand low guy as Im left handed, and the advantages for me with a cross handed grip are twofold.
For one, it really makes distance control, especially for beginners, much easier because it takes the "hit" out of the putt. It forces one to rock the shoulders.

I think people tend to get their shoulder leveling out of whack and it can cause, although not for some, issues with strike point and alignment. LHL makes the bottom of the swing a lot easier to see.

What's tougher is some times the line of the putt can be lost because the right hand (for me) gets moved around unknowingly. I think its a great grip and many golfers can be very successful with it.
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Posted 14 October 2017 - 08:51 PM

View Postrmgatl, on 12 October 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

I love LHL gator btw.  Love putting again.

Interesting! What the heck is Left Hand Low Gator? :)

edit--- i found some video... yikes that feels bizarre!

Edited by toad37, 14 October 2017 - 09:01 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:20 PM

View Posttoad37, on 14 October 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:

View Postrmgatl, on 12 October 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

I love LHL gator btw.  Love putting again.

Interesting! What the heck is Left Hand Low Gator? :)

edit--- i found some video... yikes that feels bizarre!
It's awesome, assume it was clear I meant gator RH.  Ymmv but pure stroke, no hit, like a machine inside 10-15 feet.  I do a slight variation that for me is more comfortable, almost RH claw (again, with LHL).  Whatever works.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:24 PM

View Postrmgatl, on 16 October 2017 - 09:20 PM, said:

View Posttoad37, on 14 October 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:

View Postrmgatl, on 12 October 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

I love LHL gator btw.  Love putting again.

Interesting! What the heck is Left Hand Low Gator? :)

edit--- i found some video... yikes that feels bizarre!
It's awesome, assume it was clear I meant gator RH.  Ymmv but pure stroke, no hit, like a machine inside 10-15 feet.  I do a slight variation that for me is more comfortable, almost RH claw (again, with LHL).  Whatever works.

Sounds interesting for sure!


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 10:33 AM

Ive been LHL for over a year and while it feels very "comfortable" to me Im a poor lag putter. Ive never had a putting lesson so i want to try that before switching anything up, but as an 8 hcp I feel like Ive hit a wall until I become more consistent with all the different wedge shots and the putter. Nothing worse than a round filled with lots of fir and gir thats riddled with 3 jacks.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 10:21 PM

Im a pretty good player and have used l for hand low since high school. I made an adjustment this year and really focused on getting  The putter grip in the palm of my right hand

Really took the arc out of my stoke eliminated spin. 5 footer are almost gimmes now and Im consistently hitting the sweet spot.

Never hit it before with my arc eeee stroke

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 11:07 PM

I've flip flopped grip styles the last 6 or 8 years and lhl just feels way more solid and consistent. The place I struggle with it is when greens are slow. Not like 6pm and they got a little fuzzy. I mean the courses that don't cut them so tight. Faster greens I putt way better on because I feel like lhl shuts down my wrists through impact so it's a shoulder swing big muscle action where there's no BS.

I find it easier with a mallet style head as well but I think that's just personal preference.

If you use conventional style and can't make it in a basketball hoop then try lhl. You'll be glad you did
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Posted 23 October 2017 - 01:57 AM

I get yippy with conventional. More stable with LHL  
With Conventional grip my RHL gets too active sometimes  like Im trying to run up the ball up gradual incline putt.

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 09:30 AM

Have been toying with LHL for a few months now, but only in practice. Always went conventional on the course.

Switched to LHL on the course this weekend for the first time, with fantastic results! Much better speed control on the (very) fast greens, and deadly accurate inside 8 ft. As a result, shot my first under 80 round ever, including two long putts for birdies. Might be the honeymoon phase, but not going back to conventional anytime soon.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:17 AM

been using LHL all season with my Futura 6m. has it drastically helped my putting? overall...meh. average less than 30 putts per round (averaged just under 31 with regular grip) -- but i realized inside 10-15' it's much more consistent, longer putts not so much. kind of a toss up really -- make more inside 15'...or hit it closer outside 15'...lol

yea yea, i know, "just hit it closer and you're golden".

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:20 AM

View Postgioguy21, on 24 October 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

been using LHL all season with my Futura 6m. has it drastically helped my putting? overall...meh. average less than 30 putts per round (averaged just under 31 with regular grip) -- but i realized inside 10-15' it's much more consistent, longer putts not so much. kind of a toss up really -- make more inside 15'...or hit it closer outside 15'...lol

yea yea, i know, "just hit it closer and you're golden".

Guess it comes down to what feels better either mentally and or physically?

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:30 AM

View Posttoad37, on 24 October 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

View Postgioguy21, on 24 October 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

been using LHL all season with my Futura 6m. has it drastically helped my putting? overall...meh. average less than 30 putts per round (averaged just under 31 with regular grip) -- but i realized inside 10-15' it's much more consistent, longer putts not so much. kind of a toss up really -- make more inside 15'...or hit it closer outside 15'...lol

yea yea, i know, "just hit it closer and you're golden".

Guess it comes down to what feels better either mentally and or physically?

whenever i make a change, swing related, putting related, etc -- i stick to it and let it run it's course. i'll be sticking with LHL until i see something that indicates a change is necessary.

i just know that if i have a putt inside 8', it's going in. and right now, that's a great feeling/confidence to have.

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 05:52 PM

I've pretty much always been between lhl and conventional. I always defaulted to conventional on the course. Until very recently...

Not sure which it was, but I bought an alignment aid and then a sigma g kushin and I'm lhl only now. That putter just doesn't feel right conventional. Lhl feels so good and I make putts with the combination of that putter and lhl. I go back to my old putter and lhl doesn't feel the same. Very weird but very good too.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 06:32 AM

LHL works when your on slick greens, at least for me. I ran into troubles on longer putts/ slower greens when i had to give it a good whack. I've been conventional putting ever since (~6 years).


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Posted 27 October 2017 - 07:43 AM

To get good at distance control LHL, you can either commit to it until it starts to feel natural, or you can immensely speed up the process by doing 'ladder' putting drills every day (or every time you at the course or range.)
Play the most forgiving clubs that you like the looks of.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:00 AM

Arnold Palmer was asked, what would the one thing he would change, if he was starting out in golf.............His answer was "I'd putt left hand low"........

For those that do putt LHL, do you have a slight forward press (like Spieth)?........Do you stand square to your line or slightly open or closed?

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:14 AM

Op here. I really triex the lhl for the past two years. Pratice every night or so, and felt like even if the resulst werent there yet, they would come eventually. But i hit a wall. Was never comfortable and had difficulty releasing the putter. Tried conventional for a round just because i was curious. Nothing was working anymore. I had never made that many putt.  It just ridiculous. Its been a month now that i am back to conventional. I think the lhl helped my conventional grip. At lleast i tried.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:21 AM

View Postdisco111, on 27 October 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

Arnold Palmer was asked, what would the one thing he would change, if he was starting out in golf.............His answer was "I'd putt left hand low"........

For those that do putt LHL, do you have a slight forward press (like Spieth)?........Do you stand square to your line or slightly open or closed?
I have gone to a slight press and am seeing some really good results. Seems like a little trigger to get the putter head moving. Ball seems to roll very smooth.
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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:59 PM

View PostC-rad, on 27 October 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

Op here. I really triex the lhl for the past two years. Pratice every night or so, and felt like even if the resulst werent there yet, they would come eventually. But i hit a wall. Was never comfortable and had difficulty releasing the putter. Tried conventional for a round just because i was curious. Nothing was working anymore. I had never made that many putt.  It just ridiculous. Its been a month now that i am back to conventional. I think the lhl helped my conventional grip. At lleast i tried.

That may be the crux of the problem. LHL isn't about releasing the putter, it is a pull down the target line with the left hand staying square to the line/facing the target. You should feel absolutely no release.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:13 AM

Been struggling with putting for a few years now, primary miss being missing to the right just a few degrees, just enough to miss on the edge for short putts, a cup for mid range putts and a foot or so on longer putts. I could adjust my aim but I like to putt with a line on the ball so adjusting would look off. Went left hand low in September after finally being fed up enough, and thus far it’s worked. The stroke still feels awkward but it’s getting better. Distance control has always been good, but the important things is my putts are coming out right on line. So enjoyable to stand over a short putt, or any putt and know you’ve got a real chance rather than hit and hope.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 06:40 AM

I have never been a good putter, have astigmatism, poor depth perception, do not read greens that well.  I NEVER used to make ANYTHING, then I switched.

I am still not that great of a putter, but I can make putts.  I had about 10% of my rounds under 30 putts this year, avg about 31.0 on the season.

I tried to make the switch a few times before, but did not stay committed.  I am glad I stuck it out last season.
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