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#571 dcmidnight

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:02 PM

Enjoyed the first round with it today. It is a little bit lighter than the S1 and I liked having the hazards available even though I only used them a couple times. Real good size too. I honestly dont see myself actually moving the pin at all but otherwise I'm really impressed.

Strange question but "Measure Shot" just does not show up for me. I'm following the directions, I know how its *supposed* to work since it was similar on the S1, but its simply not a menu option when I look for it. I emailed Garmin but has anyone ever seen this?

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:18 PM

View Postdcmidnight, on 06 August 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

Enjoyed the first round with it today. It is a little bit lighter than the S1 and I liked having the hazards available even though I only used them a couple times. Real good size too. I honestly dont see myself actually moving the pin at all but otherwise I'm really impressed.

Strange question but "Measure Shot" just does not show up for me. I'm following the directions, I know how its *supposed* to work since it was similar on the S1, but its simply not a menu option when I look for it. I emailed Garmin but has anyone ever seen this?
If it's like the x40 and I think it is, you either need to manually enter measure shot mode, mark it and then go to the ball. To measure automatically, you need to enable automatic shot measuring.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:25 PM

My understanding from reading the instructions - which I am usually loathe to do lol - is that the manual measure mode worked just like the S1.

However, in the OK menu there simply was not a "Measure Shot" option.

The only thing I could think of was that automatic shot measuring had to be enabled for the manual option to show up? But that would make no sense as I dont want to automatically track every shot.
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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:35 PM

View Postdcmidnight, on 06 August 2017 - 06:25 PM, said:

My understanding from reading the instructions - which I am usually loathe to do lol - is that the manual measure mode worked just like the S1.

However, in the OK menu there simply was not a "Measure Shot" option.

The only thing I could think of was that automatic shot measuring had to be enabled for the manual option to show up? But that would make no sense as I dont want to automatically track every shot.
I'm anti documentation also LOL. Since I don't have the same Garmin I can't tell you the button sequence but I'm sure it's there you just need to find it. I definitely can measure shots manually on the x40, there is a tape measure icon in a menu I can access with 1 button push then select reset to zero it after making a shot and then it measures from that position. I'm certain yours has the same capability.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:46 PM

Yeah I mean the directions couldnt be any simpler - the option simply didnt show up lol. Oh well, I'll see what Garmin says.

Measuring a Shot

  • While playing golf, select OK.
  • Select Measure Shot.
  • Walk to your ball.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 06:47 PM

View Postdcmidnight, on 06 August 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

Yeah I mean the directions couldnt be any simpler - the option simply didnt show up lol. Oh well, I'll see what Garmin says.

    Measuring a Shot

  • While playing golf, select OK.
  • Select Measure Shot.
  • Walk to your ball.

Yeah that's pretty much it on mine also :)

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 06:25 PM

Garmin said that you have to have the Scoring function enabled in order for Measure Shot to show up as an option. It seems...absurd to me to link scoring and the ability to measure a random shot. I never realized how much I used that during a round. But there is no way I'm keeping score on my watch just to enable that function. Will be returning it and looking elsewhere.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 04:40 PM

View Postenigma2k, on 26 June 2017 - 02:59 PM, said:

My S20 is only 1 month old and at the beginning the Autoshot tracking worked almost perfect but now I had a round where it registered shots that I did not make. Autoshot really messed up this round. Has anybody else experienced this and know the cause for this?

I have had this happen to me a few times. It's really annoying. Happened to me yesterday after a drive I absolutely bombed so I was unable to use Measure Shot feature. Wish I knew what was causing it. I have latest firmware.

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Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:26 PM

View Postdcmidnight, on 09 August 2017 - 06:25 PM, said:

Garmin said that you have to have the Scoring function enabled in order for Measure Shot to show up as an option. It seems...absurd to me to link scoring and the ability to measure a random shot. I never realized how much I used that during a round. But there is no way I'm keeping score on my watch just to enable that function. Will be returning it and looking elsewhere.

Thanks.

I'm reading this a little bit late, but if you haven't returned the watch, I'd urge you to not stress over the scorekeeping thing.  All that happens is that when you get to the green on every hole, the screen shows par, and you use the "up" and "down" buttons to adjust to your score, OR just hit "OK" and it defaults to par.  Honestly, it's not intrusive at all; given that you MUST use it to use the shot measuring function.

And that is another story; I called Garmin and spent 30+ minutes on hold to ask why I couldn't find the shot measuring function when I was doing EXACTLY what the manual said.  The guy informed me that it only becomes available when you opt to keep score (which makes ZERO sense to me, btw); I asked him how I was supposed to know that, and he said that there wasn't any way to know it, and that he answers that question many, many times a day.  Weird...

All of that aside, the watch is pretty good IF it lasts.  I was VERY disappointed with the life span of the two Bushnell GPS watches I had; I'm hoping this one is better.

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Posted 28 August 2017 - 01:58 PM

Is the S20 a huge upgrade from the S2? i love my S2 and will only upgrade if it is a huge change.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 07:03 AM

View Postbluedot, on 27 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

I'm reading this a little bit late, but if you haven't returned the watch, I'd urge you to not stress over the scorekeeping thing.  All that happens is that when you get to the green on every hole, the screen shows par, and you use the "up" and "down" buttons to adjust to your score, OR just hit "OK" and it defaults to par.  Honestly, it's not intrusive at all; given that you MUST use it to use the shot measuring function.

So I'd have to fiddle with scoring 18 times per round - just to enable shot measurement. No thanks, I found that idiotic. From a programming standpoint, no one at Garmin could tell me why scoring and shot measurement needed to be linked. I gave up asking.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 12:02 PM

Have a Fenix 5 that has the golf app downloaded. Will be playing my first round of the season next weekend (embarrassing, I know) and can't wait to check it out.

A bit worried about the size of the Fenix so may just attach to my bag.

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 04:37 PM

I got this as a present. Even though I manually turn it off and put it away,  when I check on it later it has turned itself on. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 03:26 AM

View PostLes Strokes, on 23 September 2017 - 04:37 PM, said:

I got this as a present. Even though I manually turn it off and put it away,  when I check on it later it has turned itself on. Has anyone else experienced this?

When you "put it away" are is it plugged into the charger or computer? I don't have the s20, but all my garmin's will turn them selves on when you plug them in to recharge.   I've never had any of them turn themselves back on when not plugged into anything.

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:45 AM

View PostStuart G., on 24 September 2017 - 03:26 AM, said:

View PostLes Strokes, on 23 September 2017 - 04:37 PM, said:

I got this as a present. Even though I manually turn it off and put it away,  when I check on it later it has turned itself on. Has anyone else experienced this?

When you "put it away" are is it plugged into the charger or computer? I don't have the s20, but all my garmin's will turn them selves on when you plug them in to recharge.   I've never had any of them turn themselves back on when not plugged into anything.

When I put it away, I put it back in the box it came in; it's not plugged into anything. Still it turns itself on.

BTW when I reported it to Garmin, the rep told me to send it back. Did not provide a shipping label, Garmin wants ME to pay for shipping back their defective product. This device ain't cheap. This attitude of theirs pisses me off immensely. Very customer unfriendly.

I took it back to the store and even though I got it almost a year ago, they replaced it without a gripe. That's why I like to establish a relationship with a retailer rather than save a few bucks elsewhere.  Garmin needs to review their return policy, they are out of touch.


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Posted 25 September 2017 - 05:58 AM

Every time I've sent an item back to Garmin USA for warranty work - they've paid for the shipping back to them.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 05:56 PM

View PostStuart G., on 25 September 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

Every time I've sent an item back to Garmin USA for warranty work - they've paid for the shipping back to them.
Agreed. My experience with Garmin support has been very positive. I've had numerous issues and they've always favored the customer.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:26 PM

this service guy is in Canada. After I told him I returned/exchanged it, he sent me an email saying that since the unit was relatively new he should have offered free shipping. But he didn't do it originally.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 04:57 PM

Had this issue the other day. I played The Vineyard at Escondido but they made us start on #10. I could not figure out how to make the S20 start on 10. Is there a way to do this? Would it have just figured it out if I selected the course and just went to #10 tee? I was sort of pressed for time so didn't have time to monkey around with it at the time. I'm curious just in case this happens again.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 10:36 PM

View PostLomo Saltado, on 13 October 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

Had this issue the other day. I played The Vineyard at Escondido but they made us start on #10. I could not figure out how to make the S20 start on 10. Is there a way to do this? Would it have just figured it out if I selected the course and just went to #10 tee? I was sort of pressed for time so didn't have time to monkey around with it at the time. I'm curious just in case this happens again.

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:32 AM

Have had mine for nearly 2 years.  Wear it all-day, everyday.  There certainly have been some annoyances, but overall I've been quite satisfied.  It has the right combination of features for my needs and, most importantly, has nearly always worked as it should.

However, for whatever reason, the past few months have not been as good.  The frequency and severity of missed or incorrect shots has increased dramatically.  Also, the Connect website has recently changed for the better, but still quite disappointing, IMO.  Editing erroneous shots post-round often ends up with skewed yardages or entire holes deleted.  Even then, Connect sometimes shows my longest drive being like 15,000yds.  SToopid.

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 01:01 PM

Waffled all winter about buying one as it was $130 on Amazon. But had a Shotscope v2 on preorder. After early reviews of the Shotscope scared me off, cancelled went to buy this and the price jumped. Darn! I thought $130 was the normal price.

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Posted 15 January 2018 - 01:31 PM

Hmm.. I think I paid closer to $200 for mine.  No regrets, even at that price.  $130 is a great buy.
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Posted 04 February 2018 - 12:12 PM

View Postdcmidnight, on 05 September 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

View Postbluedot, on 27 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

I'm reading this a little bit late, but if you haven't returned the watch, I'd urge you to not stress over the scorekeeping thing.  All that happens is that when you get to the green on every hole, the screen shows par, and you use the "up" and "down" buttons to adjust to your score, OR just hit "OK" and it defaults to par.  Honestly, it's not intrusive at all; given that you MUST use it to use the shot measuring function.

So I'd have to fiddle with scoring 18 times per round - just to enable shot measurement. No thanks, I found that idiotic. From a programming standpoint, no one at Garmin could tell me why scoring and shot measurement needed to be linked. I gave up asking.

I went with a used S6 off the BST. Very happy so far.

Old post but thanks for this. We picked up an S20 at a great price recently while away on  a trip and couldn't figure the shot distance out either. We got this for my wife but instead she got my older Approach S4 that is simpler for her to use, and she could care less about distance to hazards that was added to the S20. The S4 had an easy shot distance measurement too- one button to turn it on. One to stop it when you reach your ball.

Missed that feature occasionally the few rounds I had with it  and I thought I had to turn on the full shotracking features. I don't use a smartphone and couldn't be bothered with that part of it anyway. I may turn on the scorecard to try the distance measurement out.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 10:27 AM

View Postmyspinonit, on 04 February 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

View Postdcmidnight, on 05 September 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

View Postbluedot, on 27 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

I'm reading this a little bit late, but if you haven't returned the watch, I'd urge you to not stress over the scorekeeping thing.  All that happens is that when you get to the green on every hole, the screen shows par, and you use the "up" and "down" buttons to adjust to your score, OR just hit "OK" and it defaults to par.  Honestly, it's not intrusive at all; given that you MUST use it to use the shot measuring function.

So I'd have to fiddle with scoring 18 times per round - just to enable shot measurement. No thanks, I found that idiotic. From a programming standpoint, no one at Garmin could tell me why scoring and shot measurement needed to be linked. I gave up asking.

I went with a used S6 off the BST. Very happy so far.

Old post but thanks for this. We picked up an S20 at a great price recently while away on  a trip and couldn't figure the shot distance out either. We got this for my wife but instead she got my older Approach S4 that is simpler for her to use, and she could care less about distance to hazards that was added to the S20. The S4 had an easy shot distance measurement too- one button to turn it on. One to stop it when you reach your ball.

Missed that feature occasionally the few rounds I had with it  and I thought I had to turn on the full shotracking features. I don't use a smartphone and couldn't be bothered with that part of it anyway. I may turn on the scorecard to try the distance measurement out.

I don't think the 1-time distance measurement feature (similar to the S4's) needs either the shot tracking or score card turned on.  Just looks like 2 button presses (instead of one).

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The shot tracking (if turned on) goes above and beyond that.  Automatically tracking every where on the course you make a (full) swing at the ball so you can go back and look at "all" your shots after the round.   And it doesn't show you the distances during the round, you have to wait until you sync with Garmin connect.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 12:14 PM

View PostStuart G., on 05 February 2018 - 10:27 AM, said:

View Postmyspinonit, on 04 February 2018 - 12:12 PM, said:

View Postdcmidnight, on 05 September 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

View Postbluedot, on 27 August 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

I'm reading this a little bit late, but if you haven't returned the watch, I'd urge you to not stress over the scorekeeping thing.  All that happens is that when you get to the green on every hole, the screen shows par, and you use the "up" and "down" buttons to adjust to your score, OR just hit "OK" and it defaults to par.  Honestly, it's not intrusive at all; given that you MUST use it to use the shot measuring function.

So I'd have to fiddle with scoring 18 times per round - just to enable shot measurement. No thanks, I found that idiotic. From a programming standpoint, no one at Garmin could tell me why scoring and shot measurement needed to be linked. I gave up asking.

I went with a used S6 off the BST. Very happy so far.

Old post but thanks for this. We picked up an S20 at a great price recently while away on  a trip and couldn't figure the shot distance out either. We got this for my wife but instead she got my older Approach S4 that is simpler for her to use, and she could care less about distance to hazards that was added to the S20. The S4 had an easy shot distance measurement too- one button to turn it on. One to stop it when you reach your ball.

Missed that feature occasionally the few rounds I had with it  and I thought I had to turn on the full shotracking features. I don't use a smartphone and couldn't be bothered with that part of it anyway. I may turn on the scorecard to try the distance measurement out.

I don't think the 1-time distance measurement feature (similar to the S4's) needs either the shot tracking or score card turned on.  Just looks like 2 button presses (instead of one).

http://www8.garmin.c...66D1F68EEB.html


The shot tracking (if turned on) goes above and beyond that.  Automatically tracking every where on the course you make a (full) swing at the ball so you can go back and look at "all" your shots after the round.   And it doesn't show you the distances during the round, you have to wait until you sync with Garmin connect.
Thanks, but that was the point I was trying to address in my post of thanks.

It was only after another Wrxer contacted support that he learned that scorekeeping has to be turned on to display  "Measure Shot" in the dropdown message. Please see post 579 by bluedot.

He reported that the customer service rep said answered that question several times a day. I think they have revised the online user manual at least once. But odd they hadn't added that clarification in it if getting so many enquiries from frustrated users...and just from  the ones who were frustrated AND  took the time to call.

Edited by myspinonit, 05 February 2018 - 12:17 PM.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 12:17 PM

View Postmyspinonit, on 05 February 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

Thanks, but that was the point I was trying to address in my post of thanks.

It was only after another Wrxer contacted support that he learned that scorekeeping has to be turned on to display  "Measure Shot" in the dropdown message.

He reported that the customer service rep said answered that question several times a day. I think they have revised the online user manual at least once. But odd they hadn't added that clarification in it if getting so many enquiries from frustrated users...and just from  the ones who were frustrated AND  took the time to call.

Interesting.  Thanks for the clarification.   I should check if it's the same with some of their other more modern watches.

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Posted 05 February 2018 - 12:19 PM

View PostStuart G., on 05 February 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

View Postmyspinonit, on 05 February 2018 - 12:14 PM, said:

Thanks, but that was the point I was trying to address in my post of thanks.

It was only after another Wrxer contacted support that he learned that scorekeeping has to be turned on to display  "Measure Shot" in the dropdown message.

He reported that the customer service rep said answered that question several times a day. I think they have revised the online user manual at least once. But odd they hadn't added that clarification in it if getting so many enquiries from frustrated users...and just from  the ones who were frustrated AND  took the time to call.

Interesting.  Thanks for the clarification.   I should check if it's the same with some of their other more modern watches.
Welcome...While you were posting I edited my last post to refer you to post 579 for more detail from bluedot.

Edited by myspinonit, 05 February 2018 - 12:19 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 10:34 AM

Yeah the lack of simple shot distance has turned me off the S20, I changed to the Bushnell Ion I got on sale... doesn't have all the features of the S20 but I only want yardages basically - don't need a image of the green, scorekeeping, club tracking, any of that.  If you do the S20 is great, though.  I put my S20 in the Swap Shop figure someone will want it :).
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Posted 07 February 2018 - 10:23 AM

View Postpitchinwedge, on 05 January 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

Have had mine for nearly 2 years.  Wear it all-day, everyday.  There certainly have been some annoyances, but overall I've been quite satisfied.  It has the right combination of features for my needs and, most importantly, has nearly always worked as it should.

However, for whatever reason, the past few months have not been as good.  The frequency and severity of missed or incorrect shots has increased dramatically.  Also, the Connect website has recently changed for the better, but still quite disappointing, IMO.  Editing erroneous shots post-round often ends up with skewed yardages or entire holes deleted.  Even then, Connect sometimes shows my longest drive being like 15,000yds.  SToopid.

TBH, 2 years is forever on WRX, so just wondering what other GPS watch others may have switch to.

I've had the same issue with shot tracking and the web site since I received my X40 for Christmas 2017.  I've have 5 or 6 rounds and there is a problem on maybe 1/4 of the holes, maybe more.  Customer service wasn't much help and basically was surprised at my criticism of the web site.  In any case, I do enjoy the device, the battery life is good, etc.  I know this is an S20 thread but I'm betting the guts and operation of the X40 is basically the same as the S20.


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