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#1 keto

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 01:31 PM

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And I did.  And they were good.

1 week from official launch, about time for this thread no?  Placed my order yesterday.  I'm a vanilla hacker, 75mph 7i 15-17 hcp, this iron is right up my alley.  Hit em for a while in sim - I'm in Alberta, so no outdoor golf at the moment - hit em all over the face except high, very forgiving as one would expect of a G series Ping.  Nice to look down on, not at all shovel-ish.  Shoulda taken a snap or 2 but I didn't think of it in the moment :oops:

I'll have them in 2-3 weeks, long before the ranges are open here.....so I'll be swinging in the garage, or generally just admiring and caressing them for a few weeks :air_kiss:

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 01:50 PM

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I'm interested to hear how these compare to the G25's. I didn't see enough reason to even demo the G30s, but these new look Gs have me intrigued.  I'm glad to see them go to a lighter finish that won't show as much wear and while I'm not a fan of the ferrule, I can deal with that.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 02:24 PM

 MattMo, on 04 February 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I'm interested to hear how these compare to the G25's. I didn't see enough reason to even demo the G30s, but these new look Gs have me intrigued.  I'm glad to see them go to a lighter finish that won't show as much wear and while I'm not a fan of the ferrule, I can deal with that.

Hey Matt,

I've played every G iron going back to G10 and there isn't a profound difference in any of them.  Salient features of these new G's are a sleeker appearance, raw stainless finish so wear marks will be well hidden, new shaft options, and a spring face for added distance.  Unless you are distance challenged or your current clubs are poorly fit to your swing, there should be no NEED to upgrade.  Of course that shouldn't stop you from upgrading just because.  I just don't think you will see a huge difference from your G25's.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 02:59 PM

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

 MattMo, on 04 February 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I'm interested to hear how these compare to the G25's. I didn't see enough reason to even demo the G30s, but these new look Gs have me intrigued.  I'm glad to see them go to a lighter finish that won't show as much wear and while I'm not a fan of the ferrule, I can deal with that.

Hey Matt,

I've played every G iron going back to G10 and there isn't a profound difference in any of them.  Salient features of these new G's are a sleeker appearance, raw stainless finish so wear marks will be well hidden, new shaft options, and a spring face for added distance.  Unless you are distance challenged or your current clubs are poorly fit to your swing, there should be no NEED to upgrade.  Of course that shouldn't stop you from upgrading just because.  I just don't think you will see a huge difference from your G25's.

Hey Nessim, I am new to the forums here but long time reader. I love Ping products and purchased my G20 irons a number of years ago based on a lot of your positive thoughts and they have been great irons! I do feel the time is now to upgrade. I am from Canada and have an opportunity to test the G line and get some trade in bonuses. i must say the i line has caught my attention too. I hit the 7 iron a few weeks ago and really liked the feel and look. I am unsure how I will hit the 4-5 irons yet and may need to give another swing. But the i's are significantly more in price.

I play maybe once a week and don't get a whole lot of time to practice with 2 young children. Distance isn't really an issue for me, i feel i hit my G20s plenty far. That's where the G has benefited me. I guess what I am trying to find out is if i can hit the G line fairly well, can i have the same success with the i's? Golf Digest hot list labeled the i's as game improvement irons looking more like players clubs and i love the looks, but I am concerned on off days how bad will I hit them. Have you had any experience with the new i line? I guess I find the i line really intriguing but it's quite a bit more money..

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:32 PM

Danny, I traded in i20's for the G's (so, 3 seasons with them I believe though I had other iron sets come and go during that time).  I had no problem hitting them, they are quite forgiving for more of a players iron.  Unlike you, I am distance challenged, so do welcome a few extra yards.  I'd say go hit the i's and see what you think...I believe you will find they feel a little nicer than the G's.

Matt, I never had the G25's or any other G so I myself can't compare.  Just hit all the G series for the past ~5 yrs in store, didn't really mesh with them at the time.  My swing's a little different and I've been working out, somewhere in there is a combo that makes me like them better now :shrugs:


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:42 PM

 dannynoonan1, on 04 February 2016 - 02:59 PM, said:

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

 MattMo, on 04 February 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I'm interested to hear how these compare to the G25's. I didn't see enough reason to even demo the G30s, but these new look Gs have me intrigued.  I'm glad to see them go to a lighter finish that won't show as much wear and while I'm not a fan of the ferrule, I can deal with that.

Hey Matt,

I've played every G iron going back to G10 and there isn't a profound difference in any of them.  Salient features of these new G's are a sleeker appearance, raw stainless finish so wear marks will be well hidden, new shaft options, and a spring face for added distance.  Unless you are distance challenged or your current clubs are poorly fit to your swing, there should be no NEED to upgrade.  Of course that shouldn't stop you from upgrading just because.  I just don't think you will see a huge difference from your G25's.

Hey Nessim, I am new to the forums here but long time reader. I love Ping products and purchased my G20 irons a number of years ago based on a lot of your positive thoughts and they have been great irons! I do feel the time is now to upgrade. I am from Canada and have an opportunity to test the G line and get some trade in bonuses. i must say the i line has caught my attention too. I hit the 7 iron a few weeks ago and really liked the feel and look. I am unsure how I will hit the 4-5 irons yet and may need to give another swing. But the i's are significantly more in price.

I play maybe once a week and don't get a whole lot of time to practice with 2 young children. Distance isn't really an issue for me, i feel i hit my G20s plenty far. That's where the G has benefited me. I guess what I am trying to find out is if i can hit the G line fairly well, can i have the same success with the i's? Golf Digest hot list labeled the i's as game improvement irons looking more like players clubs and i love the looks, but I am concerned on off days how bad will I hit them. Have you had any experience with the new i line? I guess I find the i line really intriguing but it's quite a bit more money..

Danny,

I went from the G25s to the new ping I irons.  The difference in both distance and forgiveness for me is very small for me.  The I irons have alot of help in the small package.  I went with the nippon modus 105 stiff shaft and launch the ball just as high as i did with my G25s (had CFS stiff in them).  I can flight the ball low too if i need to.

I am really happy I went with the I irons as the look and feel are awesome. These are really soft feeling for a cast club.  They just want to go high and straight and land soft.

Best bet is go and give both of them and hit.  I would put alot of stock into how you like the looks of them becuase thats a big confidence boost.

Hope this helps and let me know if you want to know any more of my experience in switching from the G series to I series.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:55 PM

During my years of playing G's I've also owned i20's, i5's, and ie1 irons, and while I can play the i's fine, I find the G's are just plain easier to hit.  The pattern that keeps repeating for me is that I'll be playing the i's but the scores are moving in the wrong direction, so I'll switch back to the G's and the scores almost immediately improve.  I've gone through this pattern a bunch of times.  Wish I could force myself to settle down with only one set of irons but what's the fun in that?  Seriously now, the G's are awesome and I don't understand why so many aspiring "players" feel the need to move to the less forgiving clubs.  At any rate, I HAVE learned my lesson.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 04:22 PM

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

During my years of playing G's I've also owned i20's, i5's, and ie1 irons, and while I can play the i's fine, I find the G's are just plain easier to hit.  The pattern that keeps repeating for me is that I'll be playing the i's but the scores are moving in the wrong direction, so I'll switch back to the G's and the scores almost immediately improve.  I've gone through this pattern a bunch of times.  Wish I could force myself to settle down with only one set of irons but what's the fun in that?  Seriously now, the G's are awesome and I don't understand why so many aspiring "players" feel the need to move to the less forgiving clubs.  At any rate, I HAVE learned my lesson.

Nessism,

I can see myself getting into the battle between playing the I series vs G series.  The difference for me is my score has remained the same if not improved slightly by gong to the Is.  Score would have probably improved if I stayed with the Gs becuase i loose most of my strokes on the Tee and Green, while my iron game is a strength.

The G irons are real point and shoot clubs and as a former baseball player I would get to quick and "hitty" with them, my fault not the clubs but i would rely to much on the club vs putting a good swing on it.

The Is give me enough forgiveness I need with also keeping me focused on putting a good swing on every shot.

Where i see the G irons coming back into my bag is in the future when I start a faimly and don't get to play and pratice as much as I do now.  Both series are awesome clubs and don't think anyone can go wrong with either set as I believe they cover a huge range of iron skill levels.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 04:29 PM

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

During my years of playing G's I've also owned i20's, i5's, and ie1 irons, and while I can play the i's fine, I find the G's are just plain easier to hit.  The pattern that keeps repeating for me is that I'll be playing the i's but the scores are moving in the wrong direction, so I'll switch back to the G's and the scores almost immediately improve.  I've gone through this pattern a bunch of times.  Wish I could force myself to settle down with only one set of irons but what's the fun in that?  Seriously now, the G's are awesome and I don't understand why so many aspiring "players" feel the need to move to the less forgiving clubs.  At any rate, I HAVE learned my lesson.
You know why Nessie.....because everyone wants to hit knockdowns, fades, hooks, draws, cuts and punches. Why would you want to hit high flying straight bombs at the flag all day with a G iron.....seems very boring to me.

Joking of course because when you are done with the high bombs you can still hit all of the other shots with the G's. Just a preference for me, but could play either and be very happy.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 04:41 PM

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

During my years of playing G's I've also owned i20's, i5's, and ie1 irons, and while I can play the i's fine, I find the G's are just plain easier to hit.  The pattern that keeps repeating for me is that I'll be playing the i's but the scores are moving in the wrong direction, so I'll switch back to the G's and the scores almost immediately improve.  I've gone through this pattern a bunch of times.  Wish I could force myself to settle down with only one set of irons but what's the fun in that?  Seriously now, the G's are awesome and I don't understand why so many aspiring "players" feel the need to move to the less forgiving clubs.  At any rate, I HAVE learned my lesson.

Funny, I went thru that last year but didn't really make the connection until now.  I started the year playing XR's (and G30 driver) and my scores steadily improved, until they didn't.  Had a bad round, bought a BioCell+ driver cheap and hit it well, and stuck the i20's in the bag for the rest of the year.....and my scores went the wrong way for the rest of the year, for the most part.  I had lost confidence in the XRs, so even when I took them to the range it was in my head that I wouldn't hit them well and....durrr, I didn't.  By the same token, I lost a little something (and for sure a buncha yardage) playing the i20's though I felt I was striking them OK.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 05:27 PM

 Brescia1016, on 04 February 2016 - 04:22 PM, said:

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

During my years of playing G's I've also owned i20's, i5's, and ie1 irons, and while I can play the i's fine, I find the G's are just plain easier to hit.  The pattern that keeps repeating for me is that I'll be playing the i's but the scores are moving in the wrong direction, so I'll switch back to the G's and the scores almost immediately improve.  I've gone through this pattern a bunch of times.  Wish I could force myself to settle down with only one set of irons but what's the fun in that?  Seriously now, the G's are awesome and I don't understand why so many aspiring "players" feel the need to move to the less forgiving clubs.  At any rate, I HAVE learned my lesson.

Nessism,

I can see myself getting into the battle between playing the I series vs G series.  The difference for me is my score has remained the same if not improved slightly by gong to the Is.  Score would have probably improved if I stayed with the Gs becuase i loose most of my strokes on the Tee and Green, while my iron game is a strength.

The G irons are real point and shoot clubs and as a former baseball player I would get to quick and "hitty" with them, my fault not the clubs but i would rely to much on the club vs putting a good swing on it.

The Is give me enough forgiveness I need with also keeping me focused on putting a good swing on every shot.

Where i see the G irons coming back into my bag is in the future when I start a faimly and don't get to play and pratice as much as I do now.  Both series are awesome clubs and don't think anyone can go wrong with either set as I believe they cover a huge range of iron skill levels.

All great points guys! Your last comment is where I am, family and not a lot of practice! I will go out and hit both clubs to compare, I also think the savings with going to the G's vs I's would be in around the $500.00 range, so that will factor into it as well. Anyways, I will let you know how I make out, I have a fitting in two weeks.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 06:23 PM

Got some on order, I honestly need the help.  I had an epiphany a while back.  I dont need to work the ball, I don't need to hit knock downs any longer, hell my stock shot is a knock down.....I need help getting the ball in the air.  :stink:
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 07:11 PM

I am having a set of G10s refinished as we speak.  Should be here early next week.  Was going to get the new ones, but went a much cheaper route :)
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 07:35 AM

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

During my years of playing G's I've also owned i20's, i5's, and ie1 irons, and while I can play the i's fine, I find the G's are just plain easier to hit.  The pattern that keeps repeating for me is that I'll be playing the i's but the scores are moving in the wrong direction, so I'll switch back to the G's and the scores almost immediately improve.  I've gone through this pattern a bunch of times.  Wish I could force myself to settle down with only one set of irons but what's the fun in that?  Seriously now, the G's are awesome and I don't understand why so many aspiring "players" feel the need to move to the less forgiving clubs.  At any rate, I HAVE learned my lesson.


With that said are you going to get a set of the G's or are you content with the G30's ?
I hit both the G's and the ie1 the other day and both seem to perform better than my i25's. Distance was basically the same on all clubs but the accuracy/ miss hits were better with the ie1's and even a bit better with the G's.
I have not hit the G30's but if the G30 and G are about the same maybe I'll have to consider the G30's to same a few bucks.
I played the G25's and liked them but for some reason when the I25's came out I ended up with a set of them.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 08:11 AM

The redesign and revised cosmetics are a huge improvement over the G30 (I personally couldn't look down at one). I compared the specs of the new Ping G to the old TM '09 Burners and they were very similar. The old Burners were one of the best selling irons and I predict that the G's will also do very well. I'm in the market for new set of irons and will definitely take a look at these.  My only initial concern is that the offset maybe a bit too much for me. BTW, the last set of Ping irons I owned were the IO3's.

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 08:16 AM

i got the karstens cuz they were cheaper than the g series, and i hit 'em the same, but i do have some wedges/hybrids that are g20 and i love 'em, of course! wish i woulda discovered ping long ago...
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:11 PM

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

 MattMo, on 04 February 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I'm interested to hear how these compare to the G25's. I didn't see enough reason to even demo the G30s, but these new look Gs have me intrigued.  I'm glad to see them go to a lighter finish that won't show as much wear and while I'm not a fan of the ferrule, I can deal with that.

Hey Matt,

I've played every G iron going back to G10 and there isn't a profound difference in any of them.  Salient features of these new G's are a sleeker appearance, raw stainless finish so wear marks will be well hidden, new shaft options, and a spring face for added distance.  Unless you are distance challenged or your current clubs are poorly fit to your swing, there should be no NEED to upgrade.  Of course that shouldn't stop you from upgrading just because.  I just don't think you will see a huge difference from your G25's.

Ness, I go back even a bit further than you, with my G5s.  Very interesting to read your comment about lack of a profound difference in the G's. Each time a new G was released I demo'd it looking for some significant improvement and for a reason to buy!  Did this for the 10s, 15s, 20s, 25s, 30s and never found that major improvement. I found the difference between models to be minor, and even the SUM of all the improvements G5 - G30 didn't seem significant to me. So I resisted the temptation to buy the "latest and greatest" G iron - perhaps because my baseline G5 was SO GOOD to begin with!!

Aside from playing well my G5s still look great. I am not sure but I believe G5s may have been among the last to be cast from the Ping factory in Phoenix. Whatever process they were using at the time, the G5s seem indestructible. I have read that subsequent G models have had durability/cosmetic issues from time to time. And of course I am biased, but I believe the 5s were one of the better looking Gs as well.

Probably a good thing more players are not like me - the golf industry would be suffering even more than it is. Having said that, I'm demoing Cally XR OS tomorrow. Maybe they can knock the G5s out of the bag after 10 years or so.

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:23 PM

 jhd12, on 05 February 2016 - 12:11 PM, said:

 Nessism, on 04 February 2016 - 02:24 PM, said:

 MattMo, on 04 February 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I'm interested to hear how these compare to the G25's. I didn't see enough reason to even demo the G30s, but these new look Gs have me intrigued.  I'm glad to see them go to a lighter finish that won't show as much wear and while I'm not a fan of the ferrule, I can deal with that.

Hey Matt,

I've played every G iron going back to G10 and there isn't a profound difference in any of them.  Salient features of these new G's are a sleeker appearance, raw stainless finish so wear marks will be well hidden, new shaft options, and a spring face for added distance.  Unless you are distance challenged or your current clubs are poorly fit to your swing, there should be no NEED to upgrade.  Of course that shouldn't stop you from upgrading just because.  I just don't think you will see a huge difference from your G25's.

Ness, I go back even a bit further than you, with my G5s.  Very interesting to read your comment about lack of a profound difference in the G's. Each time a new G was released I demo'd it looking for some significant improvement and for a reason to buy!  Did this for the 10s, 15s, 20s, 25s, 30s and never found that major improvement. I found the difference between models to be minor, and even the SUM of all the improvements G5 - G30 didn't seem significant to me. So I resisted the temptation to buy the "latest and greatest" G iron - perhaps because my baseline G5 was SO GOOD to begin with!!

Aside from playing well my G5s still look great. I am not sure but I believe G5s may have been among the last to be cast from the Ping factory in Phoenix. Whatever process they were using at the time, the G5s seem indestructible. I have read that subsequent G models have had durability/cosmetic issues from time to time. And of course I am biased, but I believe the 5s were one of the better looking Gs as well.

Probably a good thing more players are not like me - the golf industry would be suffering even more than it is. Having said that, I'm demoing Cally XR OS tomorrow. Maybe they can knock the G5s out of the bag after 10 years or so.

Nice!  I do love me some G5's.  A simple, clean GI iron that flat out works.  Always wanted to try those with something other than the CS Lite that came stock.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:12 PM

I had some G5's for a while too, but I only used them a few times and then sold them.  Didn't sell for any good reason other than the fact that I had three sets of G's at that time and the 5's were pristine and I didn't want to beat them up and devalue them any more than I did.  At any rate, all the G's are awesome.  

 clinville, on 05 February 2016 - 07:35 AM, said:

With that said are you going to get a set of the G's or are you content with the G30's ?


I'll most likely wind up with the new G's at some point, but staying with my 30's for now.  I hit the ball plenty far so distance isn't an allure for me, but more importantly my 30's are still in great shape and I put Recoil's in them and tweaked the lofts to suit my sensibilities.  Paying $800 + tax for the new G's, and then tearing them apart for a shaft change and what have you doesn't make economical sense right now.
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:47 PM

I might be in the market for the 6-iron and 7-iron in the G set, because the lofts are 2* stronger than in the G25's, which I tried and hit shorter than my AP1's.

I like the idea that the new stock shaft is a Nippon as well; I really like the Nippon 105T in my AP1's.  So, I'll be taking a hard look at a couple of these.  Maybe even the 5-iron.

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 03:22 PM

Got mine on order.

I currently have X2 Hot Pros. Im officially a 12 ish cap but probably nearer a 10 now. I like these clubs, they feel great when flushed but aren't the most forgiving. Also they weren't custom fitted for me.

Went for a fitting a few weeks ago and tried the G's, I's, Apex, Apex Pro, Ap1, JPX850 forged and one other that I've forgotten.

The G and Apex Pro were the best by a mile. Then after comparing those two side by side for a while the G's came out well on top.

They were very long (10 yards longer than my X2s) and very straight/forgiving.

I had never hit a G series iron before that day, and I had seen people on these boards describe them as 'point and shoot' clubs. I can see why now.

Can't wait to pick them up.



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Posted 05 February 2016 - 03:59 PM

Got fitted for these on Tuesday. I'm an 18, club speed of 83.3 with the 7i. Picked up about 10 yards of carry over my g25s, and MUCH tighter dispersion. I really like the look of these at address and I think they instill confidence. Didn't place my order yet, need to test some of the other clubs in the set. Looking at purple color code. Thinking I will replace the 4i with the 4 crossover, because my goodness, is that thing easy to hit.

Went in wanting the 716AP1 but with the same dispersion and 15 yards more distance, think these are the winners.

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:28 PM

People should just direct ping G questions straight to nessism. He's like the expert witness in a criminal trial. I come to post and then feel like James Carville in the "old school" debate scene
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:51 PM

Great posts. Am torn between Srixon 355, Ap 1, G and the Mizuno EZ.
Had the best dispersion and backspin
with the ap1. How was backspin with the G for everyone here? Crossfield 's
review seemed the suggest a lower backspin for the G's.

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 08:54 PM

I'm expecting these G to be the end all for me....i score just fine, just looking for simple results

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 09:06 PM

Question for those thinking of going with the AMT shafts..What will you do for wedge shafts? I don't see an option for AMT shafts in the Glide wedges as of yet so will you just use the CFS Wedge shaft? PW/Gap wedge shaft in the G irons would be about 109g according to the website graphics and would have to jump to 118g in the CFS if going with the Glide sand and lob wedges.....thoughts?

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 01:57 AM

I have G25s and I've hit both G30 and the new G iron. Seen no reason to change. The G30 didn't give me any benefit over my current irons and the G goes 5 yards further than my G25s.   My only regret is selling my G10s and getting taylormades before coming back to the G25s.

For the sake of 5 yards I see no point in changing from a set of irons I play well with. It's not my iron play that's letting me down!
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Posted 06 February 2016 - 09:44 AM

 forefrazier, on 05 February 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:

Question for those thinking of going with the AMT shafts..What will you do for wedge shafts? I don't see an option for AMT shafts in the Glide wedges as of yet so will you just use the CFS Wedge shaft? PW/Gap wedge shaft in the G irons would be about 109g according to the website graphics and would have to jump to 118g in the CFS if going with the Glide sand and lob wedges.....thoughts?
I prefer the heavier weight so the CFS wedge shaft is a good fit IMO, but I am sure you can order the same shaft in the glides as your irons if that is what you want.

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 10:08 AM

 MtlJeff, on 05 February 2016 - 06:28 PM, said:

People should just direct ping G questions straight to nessism. He's like the expert witness in a criminal trial. I come to post and then feel like James Carville in the "old school" debate scene

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 02:25 PM

 MattMo, on 04 February 2016 - 01:50 PM, said:

I mentioned this in the other thread, but I'm interested to hear how these compare to the G25's. I didn't see enough reason to even demo the G30s, but these new look Gs have me intrigued.  I'm glad to see them go to a lighter finish that won't show as much wear and while I'm not a fan of the ferrule, I can deal with that.

I was able to hit the new G's today, so I will answer my own question.  Here's my take:
* New G's gave my 10-12 more yards with similar dispersion.  I have stiff CFS in my 25s and I tried the AWT 2.0 in the G's.  I realize the G's have stronger lofts, but I was still surprised by the gained yardage.
* G's offered more feedback on mis hits and I attribute this to the rubber dampening badge in the cavity of the 25s.  The G's gave me a better sense of where on the club face I struck the ball.
G's produced a louder "thwack" when hit and I think Nessism also referenced this being the case with flex-faced irons in a previous post.  Wasn't a big deal, just noticeably different than the 25s
*Appearance wise, I like the lighter finish on the G's vs the darker finish on the 25s and 30s, which seemed to prematurely wear.  I like the cleaner cavity / badge in the G's and don't mind the looks of the "eye".  I can learn to live with a ferrule, though I've grown accustomed to (and prefer) their ferrule-less irons from recent generations.

Bottom line, with the results I was getting,  I'm taking a long hard look at these G's.  I've never paid full retail for a set of irons, but these may just change that.

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