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#121 GeneralArnie1020

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 08:01 PM

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#122 FairwayFred

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 05:15 PM

 ianraybon, on 20 April 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

 Wardonation, on 18 April 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Be carful of "neck weight"... I had Raybon make me a #7 with plumbers neck and it was awesome. But sweet spot was way towards the heel and could not get my launch right with it.

Appreciate the feedback Jeff, definitely something i will look into, or bear in mind, when combining that head/hosel. But, i must ask..  was this before, or after an employee at a Taylormade Fitting Centre bent it every which way possible? - it arrived back with us with the lie angle altered by 3 and negative 2 loft :dntknw:

I've said it before on this forum, Wardo was absolutely the worst customer we ever dealt with in 13+ years of Scratch Golf.  After a while literally all of my employees refused to work with him anymore.  So much so that we have refused to work with him on project through NCW.  I won't even get into it any further but I was surprised to see him post in my WITB thread and benefit of the doubt goes to Ian Raybon here 100% based on what I've seen of his craftsmanship and what I know about Wardo.

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#123 FairwayFred

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 05:21 PM

3 new custom copper Ian Raybon putters.  All necks are interchangeable.  I "designed" that toe heavy pear shaped mallet shape for myself many years ago and have had it made by many makers over the years.  One version or another has been my gamer for most of the last 10y.  The modified Trojan is very interesting too. Need to paintfill the top lines

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#124 FairwayFred

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 11:13 AM

Paint filled the top lines on the 2 putters that had them.  Plumbers neck mallet looks like the gamer of the group from first days testing.

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#125 FairwayFred

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Posted 24 April 2018 - 11:24 AM

Replaced the Exotics Ex10 4 wood with an Ex10 Beta.  Not much different but it spins a little less and is a little better into the wind.

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Posted 26 April 2018 - 07:54 PM

More new clubs in to test.

Mizuno Mp18 Fli Hi 4 and 5 iron

Tour Edge Exotics Ex10 Beta 13*

Cobra F8 set to 13.5*

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 08:18 AM

Look forward to hearing about that EX10 Beta.

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 01:16 PM

Down at Trinity Forest GC in Dallas host of the Byron Nelson in a couple weeks.  Today and tomorrow are the last days the course is open before the tourey.  What an amazing golf course and just in PERFECT shape.  Firm and fast, bouncy shots is the name of the game here.

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Tour Edge Exotics Ex10 Beta 3+ w Diamana Thump F75
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Titleist Tour Issue 915F 7w w Diamana Thump F85
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4/5i - 37 7/8
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8/9i - 36 5/8
46/52/58 - 36
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Posted 01 May 2018 - 01:56 PM

TPT Shaft? Good? Feel? Torque? Which one did you go with? Ball flight? Thank you...

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 02:00 PM

 ianraybon, on 20 April 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

 Wardonation, on 18 April 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Be carful of "neck weight"... I had Raybon make me a #7 with plumbers neck and it was awesome. But sweet spot was way towards the heel and could not get my launch right with it.

Appreciate the feedback Jeff, definitely something i will look into, or bear in mind, when combining that head/hosel. But, i must ask..  was this before, or after an employee at a Taylormade Fitting Centre bent it every which way possible? - it arrived back with us with the lie angle altered by 3° and negative 2° loft :dntknw:

 ianraybon, on 20 April 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

 Wardonation, on 18 April 2018 - 12:08 PM, said:

Be carful of "neck weight"... I had Raybon make me a #7 with plumbers neck and it was awesome. But sweet spot was way towards the heel and could not get my launch right with it.

Appreciate the feedback Jeff, definitely something i will look into, or bear in mind, when combining that head/hosel. But, i must ask..  was this before, or after an employee at a Taylormade Fitting Centre bent it every which way possible? - it arrived back with us with the lie angle altered by 3° and negative 2° loft :dntknw:
? Before.. He then bent it on the Digital Mitchell machine at the Kingdom. IF loft and lie were messed up, this would be the second time this has happened to me? I used to think a digital loft and lie was the best way to adjust but know I am thinking it is not? I am thinking people do not calibrate correctly? You guys make beautiful putters and I am always a Fan..


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#131 FairwayFred

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Posted 01 May 2018 - 08:07 PM

 Wardonation, on 01 May 2018 - 01:56 PM, said:

TPT Shaft? Good? Feel? Torque? Which one did you go with? Ball flight? Thank you...

I really love the TPT so far.  I've not driven the ball this straight in a while.  Seems like it twists less than other shafts on mishits if that makes sense.  I've got the MT LKP version it's mid 50ish grams.  Ball flight is mid and flat.  Launches a little higher and spins a hair more than the Kuro Kage XT I was playing which fits this head better.
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 03:18 AM

TE have always been know for making great clubs (particularly the FWs), so I'm really interested to hear how you're find the EX10's. Can you post an update when you get a chance?

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 09:11 AM

Were you using a mini driver as a driver replacement? I'm just asking because I've been thinking about going that route and see you've used the Aeroburner mini and Cally 3Deep. I was swinging my Amp Cell Pro (440cc) much better than my Fly Z+ and I think going even smaller would be better. I just can't get used to swinging a spaceship.
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#134 FairwayFred

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 04:57 PM

 tenny352, on 02 May 2018 - 09:11 AM, said:

Were you using a mini driver as a driver replacement? I'm just asking because I've been thinking about going that route and see you've used the Aeroburner mini and Cally 3Deep. I was swinging my Amp Cell Pro (440cc) much better than my Fly Z+ and I think going even smaller would be better. I just can't get used to swinging a spaceship.

I actually used it as a large 3w.  My old home course had a good number of holes where 3w makes sense off the tee and I was always able to hit it pretty well off the deck.  Off the tee not much short of the driver and really easy to hit straight.  My new club doesn't really have any holes other than maybe 1 where 3w makes sense so I have switched to something easier to hit off the deck.  Still LOVE me some Minnie Driver though.....
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 10:06 PM

 stevw, on 02 May 2018 - 03:18 AM, said:

TE have always been know for making great clubs (particularly the FWs), so I'm really interested to hear how you're find the EX10's. Can you post an update when you get a chance?

The Ex10 Betas are firmly in the bag.  They setup great.  Almost perfect if u take away the E alignment aid.  A little less face progression than the CBX which I prefer.  Size and shape is ideal.  Sound and feel are very solid.  I added a 14g weight and a little cotton in the head for weight and they have a great muted thwack sound. I really like the turf interaction w the sole.  Seems like they really got the slip sole right on this one.  Really glides through the turf nicely.  Mishits are good.  They elevate the ball well  The 13 is really easy to hit off the deck for a strong 3w.  The 4w gives me a great trajectory that allows me to hold greens when needed and fits the yardage gap I need. They are very workable high and low.  Overall really happy with them.  While I am clearly a huge club HO I do have somewhat of a hard time finding fwy woods I really like.  Last year I had a fairway wood from 2014, one from 2013 and one from 1999 in the bag.  These I'd highly recommend and expect them to stay in the bag throughout the year at least.

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 06:58 AM

Pics of gamer putter after some patina w the plumbers neck hosel.

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Posted 03 May 2018 - 07:38 AM

Ari,
Putter looks really good with some patina, hope it rolls just as well for you and adds to your enjoyment of this crazy game.
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Posted 10 May 2018 - 10:08 AM

Possible 4 iron replacement.  Cobra F8 One 22* hybrid.  Will be built to the same 37 7/8" length as my 4 and 5 iron with the same shaft.  Head weight is 261g so swingweight should be close to perfect at that length.  Loft is pretty much the same as my 4 iron so the specs will be pretty much exactly the same.

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 09:00 PM

So far the hybrid is REALLY good.
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#140 FairwayFred

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Posted 11 May 2018 - 10:59 PM

In my bag 5/11/2018

10* JBeam Bullet w TPT shaft
13* Tour Edge Exotics Ex10 Beta 3+ w Diamana Thump F75
16.5* Tour Edge Exotics Ex10 Beta 4w w Diamana Thump F75
21* Titleist Tour Issue 915F 7w w Diamana Thump F85
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Ian Raybon Modified Copper Trojan w AlBz Plumbers neck 450g head w 180g counter weight and Super Stroke Pistol 2.0 grip

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Driver - 44 1/2
3+, 4, 7w - 42 1/4
Hybrid/5i - 37 7/8
6/7i - 37 1/4
8/9i - 36 5/8
46/52/58 - 36
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Putter really starting to patina now.


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Posted 19 May 2018 - 08:44 PM

Kasco KC-103 20* back in the back in place of the Titleist Tour Issue 915F.  The Kasco has been in and out of my bag since 1999.  I liked the Titleist but it's not great on shots higher on the face especially from the rough.  The Kasco just works.  Not 100% sure the switch is permanent but I had a very good day w the Kasco today.

(love the serial number NO15....)

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Posted 21 May 2018 - 06:46 PM

Love the Kasco !   Ive stil got all mine in the closet.
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Posted 23 May 2018 - 07:47 AM

 Zach Heusser, on 21 May 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

Love the Kasco !   Ive stil got all mine in the closet.

Super Hyten is the best!

I've got a bunch of KP99s and a KC-103 3 wood that I'll never get rid of.  They can hold up against anything modern distance wise.
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Posted 26 May 2018 - 12:34 AM

4 iron back in the bag.  Hybrid is too upright.  I am going to send it out to get bent flat.
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Posted 06 July 2018 - 11:00 PM

Few new additions.

Also driver testing.

Bag unsettled once again.

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 09:59 AM

Ari,

The patina on the SWAG is gorgeous.  Copper plate?
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Posted 07 July 2018 - 02:45 PM

No it's raw carbon steel that's pre rusted.  Agree completely on the finish its amazing.  First class job by SWAG.
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#148 PeanutsDaddy

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 06:46 PM

Looks so clean with the paint fill stripped.  Amazed that I'm looking at a Carbon head given the even patina.  

Sent Patrick a probatory email yesterday regarding a short set of NCW irons.  Really intrigued by your paired playing lengths.  Would you be willing to comment on the thought process behind the decision and the results that you are seeing? How is ball flight and distance gapping.    Contemplating matching the lengths of my PW/9 and 8/7.  Also may add 6/5 iron.    Have always played variable length irons.  


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#149 FairwayFred

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:24 AM

 PeanutsDaddy, on 07 July 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

Looks so clean with the paint fill stripped.  Amazed that I'm looking at a Carbon head given the even patina.  

Sent Patrick a probatory email yesterday regarding a short set of NCW irons.  Really intrigued by your paired playing lengths.  Would you be willing to comment on the thought process behind the decision and the results that you are seeing? How is ball flight and distance gapping.    Contemplating matching the lengths of my PW/9 and 8/7.  Also may add 6/5 iron.    Have always played variable length irons.  

The idea behind the pair lengths was to limit the number of "postures" I had to learn.  I believe it lessens one variable.  I got the idea from Bobby Jones 1930 grand slam winning set.  The ball flight and distance gapping is ideal when I got them I hit a bunch of balls on trackman and bent them to where I needed them to get the gaps I wanted.  Didn't have to change them much from my initial specs.  I'm extremely happy with them and am making another set w the same lengths.
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#150 PeanutsDaddy

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:39 PM

 FairwayFred, on 10 July 2018 - 10:24 AM, said:

 PeanutsDaddy, on 07 July 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

Looks so clean with the paint fill stripped.  Amazed that I'm looking at a Carbon head given the even patina.  

Sent Patrick a probatory email yesterday regarding a short set of NCW irons.  Really intrigued by your paired playing lengths.  Would you be willing to comment on the thought process behind the decision and the results that you are seeing? How is ball flight and distance gapping. Contemplating matching the lengths of my PW/9 and 8/7.  Also may add 6/5 iron. Have always played variable length irons.  

The idea behind the pair lengths was to limit the number of "postures" I had to learn.  I believe it lessens one variable.  I got the idea from Bobby Jones 1930 grand slam winning set.  The ball flight and distance gapping is ideal when I got them I hit a bunch of balls on trackman and bent them to where I needed them to get the gaps I wanted.  Didn't have to change them much from my initial specs.  I'm extremely happy with them and am making another set w the same lengths.

I'm so intrigued by the concept, but have only carried variable length sets.   Part of me is scared to deviate from what I already know.   Much to think about with a truly custom set of clubs.  

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Cobra King F7 9*
Wishon 919FD 13* (1* open)
Wishon 950HC 18* (1* open)
Wishon 775hs 3 - 5
Wishon 560 - 6 - 7
Wishon 575mmc 8 - PW
Mac Custom Grind GW + LW (NevadaGolfGuy Special)
Betti, Machine, Mannkrafted, Scotty, Tad Moore, Xenon

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