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#901 BNGL

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 05:50 PM

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View Postdan360, on 20 February 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

I still vote for Augusta ....  let's see it open for play 365 days/year and operated outside the little controlled environment of fake utopia that it lives in and see how well it holds up.

Emperor's New Clothes.   It's above average at best when put on the same pedestal with other places.   For crying out loud Pebble Beach and St. Andrews--the entire place, Old Course included--are public courses.

Any chance there has ever been dog s**t on any blade of grass @ Augusta?

I'll never play there, so no worries about banning for opinion but it's really not a golf course as much as it's a private little rich group's playtoy that people are being programmed to think is spectacular.

What do any of your comments have anything to do with the quality of the golf course?

Actually yes there was dog feces on property of Augusta National. I read about a guest that was staying on the property I assume a cabin, (he was a member that went through a bad divorce) and I believe it was chairman Roberts that allowed it. But story goes that the mans dog was pooping on the property, Mr. Roberts approached the man with a broom and bucket saying "we don't need your help, we spend enough on fertilizer" I will find the story and post a link in a follow up. I believe it was in a golf digest masters preview, if anyone can corroborate.

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Posted 06 September 2017 - 09:29 PM

I'm always amazed with people who can manage to separate the golf course from the experience.  I definitely cannot.  When I played Torrey Pines, it was February and 20 degrees back home, yet I'm playing golf in shorts with this view.  If you rebuilt the place hole for hole in the middle of Iowa, it wouldn't be a notable course I guess.  It was in fantastic condition, with incredibly tough rough, but layout-wise there's no hole that stood out to me as world class if it was elsewhere.  But, well, it's not in a cornfield in Iowa.  It's on prime real estate in Southern California on a bluff overlooking the Pacific, accessible by the public.  There aren't many public courses in the USA that can boast that sort of property.

Personally, I thought Pinehurst #2 was a bit overrated.  Great course and I had a great experience, but I'm not itching to drop $400+ to play it again.  You can finance most of a multi-day non-resort Pinehurst trip for that.  I'd drop the $230 to play Torrey Pines in an instant though.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:03 AM

View PostSullGolf, on 06 September 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

I'm always amazed with people who can manage to separate the golf course from the experience.  I definitely cannot.  When I played Torrey Pines, it was February and 20 degrees back home, yet I'm playing golf in shorts with this view.  If you rebuilt the place hole for hole in the middle of Iowa, it wouldn't be a notable course I guess.  It was in fantastic condition, with incredibly tough rough, but layout-wise there's no hole that stood out to me as world class if it was elsewhere.  But, well, it's not in a cornfield in Iowa.  It's on prime real estate in Southern California on a bluff overlooking the Pacific, accessible by the public.  There aren't many public courses in the USA that can boast that sort of property.

Personally, I thought Pinehurst #2 was a bit overrated.  Great course and I had a great experience, but I'm not itching to drop $400+ to play it again.  You can finance most of a multi-day non-resort Pinehurst trip for that.  I'd drop the $230 to play Torrey Pines in an instant though.
  That was my point , unless your a San Diego resident , your paying for the name.  No way is it worth $200+

     So many other options that are better in the $100 range.  I like Pelican Hills better but it's overpriced as well, but was more interesting than Torrey.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:54 PM

Absolutely love all the HATE going towards Torrey... Please and Ill say it again, PLEASE don't play it, makes it easier for us resident to get tee times!

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:29 PM

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 03:08 PM

View PostBreak81, on 07 September 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

View PostSullGolf, on 06 September 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

I'm always amazed with people who can manage to separate the golf course from the experience.  I definitely cannot.  When I played Torrey Pines, it was February and 20 degrees back home, yet I'm playing golf in shorts with this view.  If you rebuilt the place hole for hole in the middle of Iowa, it wouldn't be a notable course I guess.  It was in fantastic condition, with incredibly tough rough, but layout-wise there's no hole that stood out to me as world class if it was elsewhere.  But, well, it's not in a cornfield in Iowa.  It's on prime real estate in Southern California on a bluff overlooking the Pacific, accessible by the public.  There aren't many public courses in the USA that can boast that sort of property.

Personally, I thought Pinehurst #2 was a bit overrated.  Great course and I had a great experience, but I'm not itching to drop $400+ to play it again.  You can finance most of a multi-day non-resort Pinehurst trip for that.  I'd drop the $230 to play Torrey Pines in an instant though.
  That was my point , unless your a San Diego resident , your paying for the name.  No way is it worth $200+

So many other options that are better in the $100 range.  I like Pelican Hills better but it's overpriced as well, but was more interesting than Torrey.

You missed my point if you think it's the same as what you just said.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:24 PM

View Posttoddnt, on 07 September 2017 - 01:54 PM, said:

Absolutely love all the HATE going towards Torrey... Please and Ill say it again, PLEASE don't play it, makes it easier for us resident to get tee times!
   If I was a resident I would play it often as $60 its a great deal.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:04 AM

By far it has to be glen abbey in Canada where the Canadian open is held

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 06:16 AM

Torrey pines and gleneagles in Scotland. Both are pretty mediocre layout and not worth the price IMO.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:24 AM

View PostSullGolf, on 06 September 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

I'm always amazed with people who can manage to separate the golf course from the experience.  I definitely cannot.  

I agree and think that 99% of golfers don't have the skill nor the desire to rate courses based on a textbook.  For most of us, it's all about having fun playing golf and that includes the entire experience.


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:51 PM

View PostJasonic, on 09 September 2017 - 06:16 AM, said:

Gleneagles in Scotland.

I think Gleneagles Kings is generally pretty properly rated (somewhere in the ~40 - 50th range in the UK). It's over-priced, but probably priced about right for being at Gleneagles. The same would be said about dinner at Andrew Fairlie - fully deserves its two stars, but you pay like it's the best in the world.

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:08 AM

Add angus glen north to that list (Toronto)

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 12:57 PM

View PostBreak81, on 07 September 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

View PostSullGolf, on 06 September 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

I'm always amazed with people who can manage to separate the golf course from the experience.  I definitely cannot.  When I played Torrey Pines, it was February and 20 degrees back home, yet I'm playing golf in shorts with this view.  If you rebuilt the place hole for hole in the middle of Iowa, it wouldn't be a notable course I guess.  It was in fantastic condition, with incredibly tough rough, but layout-wise there's no hole that stood out to me as world class if it was elsewhere.  But, well, it's not in a cornfield in Iowa.  It's on prime real estate in Southern California on a bluff overlooking the Pacific, accessible by the public.  There aren't many public courses in the USA that can boast that sort of property.

Personally, I thought Pinehurst #2 was a bit overrated.  Great course and I had a great experience, but I'm not itching to drop $400+ to play it again.  You can finance most of a multi-day non-resort Pinehurst trip for that.  I'd drop the $230 to play Torrey Pines in an instant though.
  That was my point , unless your a San Diego resident , your paying for the name.  No way is it worth $200+

So many other options that are better in the $100 range.  I like Pelican Hills better but it's overpriced as well, but was more interesting than Torrey.

i had this discussion with my wife at the patio restaurant at the lodge when we were there. Because it is a municipal course does that take away some of the mystique? I think so. The Customer service there is poor, basically that of a muni course with a walk up window and a P.A. system announcing who's on the tee. Next the course itself is not difficult if you can stay out of the bunkers. i hit more than a few wayward shots and still had a look into the greens. Third there isn't really one hole "ON" the ocean, bluffs yes but on the ocean like  a Pebble Beach or the old El Dorado in Cabo San Lucas? No. but ultimately the fact that there is a different price systems for locals vs visitors dilutes its mystique. Great for the locals but the fact that locals can play it for $65.00 pretty much makes it a $65.00 course.

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