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#301 bluedot

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:17 AM

View PostBigEx44, on 06 April 2018 - 04:21 AM, said:

If you're going to hold the shaft vertical - you'll want a putter face that has 0 degrees of loft.  Be careful with this as most putter heads have 2-4 degree's of loft (the GP is fine, it's loft IS 0 degrees).

A forward press won't eliminate that problem.  A lofted putter head, held vertical, will tend to push your putts slightly right.

Agreed 100% as to loft.  A standard loft putter will roll great on the indoor carpet in a golf store, but face-on on an actual green, short and right becomes a default pattern.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:23 AM

View Postrexroh, on 06 April 2018 - 12:09 AM, said:

I have toyed with side saddle putting and bought a second hand GP putter.  It is about 46 inches long.
I find that the head weight is too light for me and I struggle on longer putts/  I am considering finding some lead sheet and adding it to the bottom of the putter.  (lead being the only legal thing to add on outside of clubs.)  I am a constant tinker of clubs.

I have several long putters as I used to anchor until it was banned.

I have cut one down to about 43 inches (Ping Scotsdale pickmeup) and will try that as well.
I have read somewhere that the loft is too much on these putters for face on putting but I like to set up with forward shaft lean which is delofting the putter.  I like to keep the shaft as near vertical as possible for a straight back straight thru stroke.

I am hoping to finish up with adjusting my Odyssey Metal X dart long, to face on putting but I don't want to cut or alter this club until I am sure the ping adjustments work.  I putted better with the Odyssey.

Any other suggestions as to adjustments for a long putter to be converted are welcome.  I live in New Zealand I and buy most of my golf gear locally and second hand.  The GP putter was the only face on putter I have seen for sale here in  10 years.

Be sure the putter is at 79 or 80 degrees lie angle, and be sure that it is NO MORE than a degree and half of loft; for that reason alone, I'd be a bit hesitant to "convert" a long putter to face-on instead of getting a putter made specifically for this style of putting.  I know a degree or two difference in loft doesn't sound like a big deal, but there's a reason that all the guys that make these putters only put a degree or so of loft on them.

As a personal preference, center-shafted with the shaft set back a bit from the face is preferable simply for visual reasons.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 07:54 AM

View Postrexroh, on 06 April 2018 - 12:09 AM, said:

I have toyed with side saddle putting and bought a second hand GP putter.  It is about 46 inches long.
I find that the head weight is too light for me and I struggle on longer putts/  I am considering finding some lead sheet and adding it to the bottom of the putter.  (lead being the only legal thing to add on outside of clubs.)  I am a constant tinker of clubs.

I have several long putters as I used to anchor until it was banned.

I have cut one down to about 43 inches (Ping Scotsdale pickmeup) and will try that as well.
I have read somewhere that the loft is too much on these putters for face on putting but I like to set up with forward shaft lean which is delofting the putter.  I like to keep the shaft as near vertical as possible for a straight back straight thru stroke.

I am hoping to finish up with adjusting my Odyssey Metal X dart long, to face on putting but I don't want to cut or alter this club until I am sure the ping adjustments work.  I putted better with the Odyssey.

Any other suggestions as to adjustments for a long putter to be converted are welcome.  I live in New Zealand I and buy most of my golf gear locally and second hand.  The GP putter was the only face on putter I have seen for sale here in  10 years.


I don’t think you will be able to put enough lead tape on the GP to make a difference. You can pour lead powder down the shaft then cork it when you get to the weight you want. It will cost you about $13 to DIY.

Loft can be an issue if you hold the club completely vertical. If you sole the putter on the ground and hold it at its lie angle (close to 80 degrees) then loft is not an issue.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 10:37 AM

So I got the GP putter in yesterday. Ive been rolling it on the carpet and it feels good. It is light like everyone says however I kind of like it, also the smaller head in my opinion inspires confidence. It will take some time adjusting to the weight coming from the Juan Putt. Im also trying a new more forward ball position, leaning more onto my left foot as I am left handed, holding the shaft as close to vertical as possible, and having my eyes directly over the ball. So far so good I cannot wait to take the putter to the course.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 10:47 AM

Been enjoying my DF, the LFI not as much (a little wobbly on the backswing) but in true clubho fashion, I bought a near mint BG MacGregor M14K off ebay, will put it to the test.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 12:34 PM

View PostRipper212, on 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

I've fiddled around on the carpet and on the putting green with the left foot forward, but it just never felt right.  It makes me feel like my right foot might be in the way on the backswing, and my guess is that I'd be adopting a position that would encourage at least some rotational movement, which I don't want.  Most importantly, though, I think the left foot forward would effectively move the ball BACK and lessen the vision advantage.

Think of shooting a free throw; why is the right foot forward for a right-handed shooter?  Same with darts, too.  I think the reason is that you want everything happening out in front of your eyes, and you don't want any rotation; just motion toward the hole.

FWIW, I've know about a half dozen guys that putt face on; I've never seen anybody putt with the left foot forward.  A couple of them putt with their feet even, but most have the right foot at least a bit forward.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 01:10 PM

View Postbluedot, on 06 April 2018 - 12:34 PM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

I've fiddled around on the carpet and on the putting green with the left foot forward, but it just never felt right.  It makes me feel like my right foot might be in the way on the backswing, and my guess is that I'd be adopting a position that would encourage at least some rotational movement, which I don't want.  Most importantly, though, I think the left foot forward would effectively move the ball BACK and lessen the vision advantage.

Think of shooting a free throw; why is the right foot forward for a right-handed shooter?  Same with darts, too.  I think the reason is that you want everything happening out in front of your eyes, and you don't want any rotation; just motion toward the hole.

FWIW, I've know about a half dozen guys that putt face on; I've never seen anybody putt with the left foot forward.  A couple of them putt with their feet even, but most have the right foot at least a bit forward.

Well I always sucked at basketball and haven't played darts since I was a kid. Clearly need to hang around pubs some more! Interesting point about body motion though. I've only tried this out indoors but think I may have less body motion with left foot forward as I feel more balanced. I'm sure there are good reasons you rarely see that stance although it was promoted as the Australian stance by the Wonder putter.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 04:45 PM

View Postbrentflog, on 06 April 2018 - 07:54 AM, said:

View Postrexroh, on 06 April 2018 - 12:09 AM, said:

I have toyed with side saddle putting and bought a second hand GP putter.  It is about 46 inches long.
I find that the head weight is too light for me and I struggle on longer putts/  I am considering finding some lead sheet and adding it to the bottom of the putter.  (lead being the only legal thing to add on outside of clubs.)  I am a constant tinker of clubs.

I have several long putters as I used to anchor until it was banned.

I have cut one down to about 43 inches (Ping Scotsdale pickmeup) and will try that as well.
I have read somewhere that the loft is too much on these putters for face on putting but I like to set up with forward shaft lean which is delofting the putter.  I like to keep the shaft as near vertical as possible for a straight back straight thru stroke.

I am hoping to finish up with adjusting my Odyssey Metal X dart long, to face on putting but I don't want to cut or alter this club until I am sure the ping adjustments work.  I putted better with the Odyssey.

Any other suggestions as to adjustments for a long putter to be converted are welcome.  I live in New Zealand I and buy most of my golf gear locally and second hand.  The GP putter was the only face on putter I have seen for sale here in  10 years.


I don’t think you will be able to put enough lead tape on the GP to make a difference. You can pour lead powder down the shaft then cork it when you get to the weight you want. It will cost you about $13 to DIY.

Loft can be an issue if you hold the club completely vertical. If you sole the putter on the ground and hold it at its lie angle (close to 80 degrees) then loft is not an issue.

I am thinking of lead sheet 3" X 2" X 1/8 modded to bottom and epoxy to base. Needs to be worked so face balance is not lost.  Lead powder not readily available here.  Plus I want weight on the head not in the shaft.  I will keep experimenting.   I might be able to get my pro shop to adjust putter loft to zero or one degree.  They are able to do iron loft adjustment but not sure about putters.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 05:05 PM

My theory is that if I set up putter with normal lie and then push handle forward (towards the hole) so that the lie is vertical, (no loft) then I can move the shaft to 90 degrees for straight thru stroke.  While it would be difficult to do accurately 100 percent of the time, it must be better then making no adjustment for the loft at all.


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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:46 PM

View Postrexroh, on 06 April 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

My theory is that if I set up putter with normal lie and then push handle forward (towards the hole) so that the lie is vertical, (no loft) then I can move the shaft to 90 degrees for straight thru stroke.  While it would be difficult to do accurately 100 percent of the time, it must be better then making no adjustment for the loft at all.

That sounds like a lot of manipulation.

I ended up liking to putt with the putter head soled and the shaft at its normal lie angle (vs vertical) when I put sidesaddle.

After much experimentation - the stroke feels more stable to me.

I still like 0 degrees of loft though because the ball is slightly forward which means I'm already catching it on the upstroke anyways.

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 08:49 PM

View Postbluedot, on 06 April 2018 - 12:34 PM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

I've fiddled around on the carpet and on the putting green with the left foot forward, but it just never felt right.  It makes me feel like my right foot might be in the way on the backswing, and my guess is that I'd be adopting a position that would encourage at least some rotational movement, which I don't want.  Most importantly, though, I think the left foot forward would effectively move the ball BACK and lessen the vision advantage.

Think of shooting a free throw; why is the right foot forward for a right-handed shooter?  Same with darts, too.  I think the reason is that you want everything happening out in front of your eyes, and you don't want any rotation; just motion toward the hole.

FWIW, I've know about a half dozen guys that putt face on; I've never seen anybody putt with the left foot forward.  A couple of them putt with their feet even, but most have the right foot at least a bit forward.

I don't like the left foot forward either.
The right foot (for a RH) feels more natural to me.
Also lets me use my right foot as a "guide".
Almost feels like cheating.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 06:36 AM

View PostBigEx44, on 06 April 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

View Postbluedot, on 06 April 2018 - 12:34 PM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

I've fiddled around on the carpet and on the putting green with the left foot forward, but it just never felt right.  It makes me feel like my right foot might be in the way on the backswing, and my guess is that I'd be adopting a position that would encourage at least some rotational movement, which I don't want.  Most importantly, though, I think the left foot forward would effectively move the ball BACK and lessen the vision advantage.

Think of shooting a free throw; why is the right foot forward for a right-handed shooter?  Same with darts, too.  I think the reason is that you want everything happening out in front of your eyes, and you don't want any rotation; just motion toward the hole.

FWIW, I've know about a half dozen guys that putt face on; I've never seen anybody putt with the left foot forward.  A couple of them putt with their feet even, but most have the right foot at least a bit forward.

I don't like the left foot forward either.
The right foot (for a RH) feels more natural to me.
Also lets me use my right foot as a "guide".
Almost feels like cheating.

Thanks for the input guys. I agree that right foot forward seems more natural and it's how I've always done it also, but at times I feel a little off balance that way, esp. when leaning weight over right foot. Interesting that I would automatically choose left foot forward on surfboard or snowboard for better balance.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 07:17 AM

Gents:

I read some older posts here on Juan Putt but website now says closed. Is he still in business?

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 08:09 AM

View PostSwisstrader98, on 07 April 2018 - 07:17 AM, said:

Gents:

I read some older posts here on Juan Putt but website now says closed. Is he still in business?

Not sure why you are seeing that; I still get the purchase option on his website.


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Posted 07 April 2018 - 08:16 AM

View PostRipper212, on 07 April 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

View PostBigEx44, on 06 April 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

View Postbluedot, on 06 April 2018 - 12:34 PM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

I've fiddled around on the carpet and on the putting green with the left foot forward, but it just never felt right.  It makes me feel like my right foot might be in the way on the backswing, and my guess is that I'd be adopting a position that would encourage at least some rotational movement, which I don't want.  Most importantly, though, I think the left foot forward would effectively move the ball BACK and lessen the vision advantage.

Think of shooting a free throw; why is the right foot forward for a right-handed shooter?  Same with darts, too.  I think the reason is that you want everything happening out in front of your eyes, and you don't want any rotation; just motion toward the hole.

FWIW, I've know about a half dozen guys that putt face on; I've never seen anybody putt with the left foot forward.  A couple of them putt with their feet even, but most have the right foot at least a bit forward.

I don't like the left foot forward either.
The right foot (for a RH) feels more natural to me.
Also lets me use my right foot as a "guide".
Almost feels like cheating.

Thanks for the input guys. I agree that right foot forward seems more natural and it's how I've always done it also, but at times I feel a little off balance that way, esp. when leaning weight over right foot. Interesting that I would automatically choose left foot forward on surfboard or snowboard for better balance.

Not having surfed in decades, and having NEVER snowboarded, I can only guess.  But since it's the internet, I'll guess and say that those sports require balance while in motion, and putting your feet in a position to allow motion to maintain balance is a very different thing from wanting to AVOID any motion except the arm.

Another analogy:  Go to a little kids baseball game where the coaches are "pitching"; most will pitch with the foot on their throwing side forward because they want accuracy, not power.  Literally, they are trying to hit the slot where the kid's swing will be.  Contrast that with a pitcher trying to throw accurately but with velocity; the velocity comes not only thru arm motion, but thru the stride and the rotation of the body, so the opposite foot comes forward.

I think the answer to balance issue of right foot forward is simply to not have the left foot quite as far back, and/or not as narrow relative to the right foot.  And I think there is a tendency to get narrow because it makes it easier to get your head and eyes behind the ball.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 08:28 AM

View PostSwisstrader98, on 07 April 2018 - 07:17 AM, said:

Gents:

I read some older posts here on Juan Putt but website now says closed. Is he still in business?

The website is up and it looks to me like he is still in business. Juan is a great guy that is willing to talk through any questions. Juanputt.com

The Juanputt is really a great putter. I am trying to kick it out of the bag right now with an Edel and I don't think it is going to happen. For me the JP is the perfect size and weight for side saddle. It is more solid feeling than the Edel.

I also think the JP is pretty fairly priced for such a quality made putter. I think the quality is just as good as the bobby grace I had before it with a much lower price

I may try to contact Juan to see if he would be willing to build one with a single or double bend shaft

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 09:33 AM

View Postbluedot, on 07 April 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:


Another analogy:  Go to a little kids baseball game where the coaches are "pitching"; most will pitch with the foot on their throwing side forward because they want accuracy, not power.  Literally, they are trying to hit the slot where the kid's swing will be.  Contrast that with a pitcher trying to throw accurately but with velocity; the velocity comes not only thru arm motion, but thru the stride and the rotation of the body, so the opposite foot comes forward.

I think the answer to balance issue of right foot forward is simply to not have the left foot quite as far back, and/or not as narrow relative to the right foot.  And I think there is a tendency to get narrow because it makes it easier to get your head and eyes behind the ball.

Great analogy.

Edited by BigEx44, 07 April 2018 - 09:33 AM.


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Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:15 AM

View Postbluedot, on 07 April 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 07 April 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

View PostBigEx44, on 06 April 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

View Postbluedot, on 06 April 2018 - 12:34 PM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

I've fiddled around on the carpet and on the putting green with the left foot forward, but it just never felt right.  It makes me feel like my right foot might be in the way on the backswing, and my guess is that I'd be adopting a position that would encourage at least some rotational movement, which I don't want.  Most importantly, though, I think the left foot forward would effectively move the ball BACK and lessen the vision advantage.

Think of shooting a free throw; why is the right foot forward for a right-handed shooter?  Same with darts, too.  I think the reason is that you want everything happening out in front of your eyes, and you don't want any rotation; just motion toward the hole.

FWIW, I've know about a half dozen guys that putt face on; I've never seen anybody putt with the left foot forward.  A couple of them putt with their feet even, but most have the right foot at least a bit forward.

I don't like the left foot forward either.
The right foot (for a RH) feels more natural to me.
Also lets me use my right foot as a "guide".
Almost feels like cheating.

Thanks for the input guys. I agree that right foot forward seems more natural and it's how I've always done it also, but at times I feel a little off balance that way, esp. when leaning weight over right foot. Interesting that I would automatically choose left foot forward on surfboard or snowboard for better balance.

I think the answer to balance issue of right foot forward is simply to not have the left foot quite as far back, and/or not as narrow relative to the right foot.  And I think there is a tendency to get narrow because it makes it easier to get your head and eyes behind the ball.

Very good point. Issue with balance is clearly when I'm trying to get my eyes right behind the ball like you said

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:37 AM

View Postbluedot, on 07 April 2018 - 08:16 AM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 07 April 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

View PostBigEx44, on 06 April 2018 - 08:49 PM, said:

View Postbluedot, on 06 April 2018 - 12:34 PM, said:

View PostRipper212, on 06 April 2018 - 11:32 AM, said:

I've noticed that the majority of right handed side saddle putters set up with right foot forward. Have any of you tried left foot forward stance? Seems a little more stable to me - that's how I'd stand on a snowboard. Also a little easier to get eyes over ball. Any thoughts?

I've fiddled around on the carpet and on the putting green with the left foot forward, but it just never felt right.  It makes me feel like my right foot might be in the way on the backswing, and my guess is that I'd be adopting a position that would encourage at least some rotational movement, which I don't want.  Most importantly, though, I think the left foot forward would effectively move the ball BACK and lessen the vision advantage.

Think of shooting a free throw; why is the right foot forward for a right-handed shooter?  Same with darts, too.  I think the reason is that you want everything happening out in front of your eyes, and you don't want any rotation; just motion toward the hole.

FWIW, I've know about a half dozen guys that putt face on; I've never seen anybody putt with the left foot forward.  A couple of them putt with their feet even, but most have the right foot at least a bit forward.

I don't like the left foot forward either.
The right foot (for a RH) feels more natural to me.
Also lets me use my right foot as a "guide".
Almost feels like cheating.

Thanks for the input guys. I agree that right foot forward seems more natural and it's how I've always done it also, but at times I feel a little off balance that way, esp. when leaning weight over right foot. Interesting that I would automatically choose left foot forward on surfboard or snowboard for better balance.

Not having surfed in decades, and having NEVER snowboarded, I can only guess.  But since it's the internet, I'll guess and say that those sports require balance while in motion, and putting your feet in a position to allow motion to maintain balance is a very different thing from wanting to AVOID any motion except the arm.

Another analogy:  Go to a little kids baseball game where the coaches are "pitching"; most will pitch with the foot on their throwing side forward because they want accuracy, not power.  Literally, they are trying to hit the slot where the kid's swing will be.  Contrast that with a pitcher trying to throw accurately but with velocity; the velocity comes not only thru arm motion, but thru the stride and the rotation of the body, so the opposite foot comes forward.

I think the answer to balance issue of right foot forward is simply to not have the left foot quite as far back, and/or not as narrow relative to the right foot.  And I think there is a tendency to get narrow because it makes it easier to get your head and eyes behind the ball.

I'm no surfer but does one face forward on a surfboard?  Always looks like they stand sideways, jmo :)


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Posted 09 April 2018 - 08:00 AM

I'll add on the JP, I really liked the feel and the weight of it, but I struggled with how wide the face is.  Seemed like I always had the heel up in the air on it.

But Juan is a great guy, I emailed him a lot asking questions about the process and for tips, but at the end of the day, I felt the most comfortable with the Bobby Grace offerings.
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Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:27 PM

I went side-saddle last summer and really had fun with it.  I purchased a GP putter in lefty and found it to be very adequate.  Not the most forgiving of heads I would say, but it's a putter, how forgiving does it need to be.  Moving forward to last week.  When I began researching this style and what putter to use, the STX Sync 3 was a proven option for some out there.  I had had an STX putter before and enjoyed it quite a bit before moving on, so I purchased a Sync 3 in lefty at 42" and after receiving it, I must say I prefer it over the GP model.  Now, I haven't had it on a course yet, but I feel in more control with it, and to my surprise, when I putt regular with it, it is VERY nice.  Going to be another fun experiment this summer with this putter, and although I might have bought the putter with side-saddle in mind, it may be the putter that puts me back to conventional.  We shall see.

Enjoy your side-saddle journey!

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:09 PM

I have messed around with the technique for the past 6 or 7 years - only once on the course- never a commitment. I have used a variety of standard, belly, and long putters when screwing around with it on my big moss home putting green - None that were designed specifically for side saddle.  After really struggling with takeaway issues / pseudo yips, I decided to give it a more serious attempt.

I sent an email to the contact address on Bobby Grace’s website. About two hours later, Bobby himself responded (on a Saturday). Ended up having a good talk on the phone and I ordered one of his F-22’s on the spot. One week later and I was rolling it at home.

First, there is a dramatic difference between other putters and this one that is designed as a side saddle. Alignment seems to be incredibly natural. While I have only used in inside due to the crummy weather in the Midwest, it seems like a life changer.

Can’t wait to see it in action this weekend.  Obviously, still in the honeymoon phase - however, she seems like a super model right now.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:17 PM

BTW - can anyone comment on usga rules vs. technique.  I understand that side saddle is okay and croquet (between the legs) is a violation on the green.  This may sound obvious, but what separates the two?  The most comfortable setup for me is right foot forward and the ball positioned about 6 to 8 inches “almost” directly in front of the right foot.  The ball is just ever so slightly to the right. On longer putts, the head clearly passes on the outside of my foot. A short pop-stroke seems to work really well.  The stroke doesn’t even seem to come all the way to my foot.  

The question is - at what point is it no longer croquet and is side saddle?

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Posted 17 April 2018 - 03:07 AM

 prouse25, on 16 April 2018 - 10:17 PM, said:

BTW - can anyone comment on usga rules vs. technique.  I understand that side saddle is okay and croquet (between the legs) is a violation on the green.  This may sound obvious, but what separates the two?  The most comfortable setup for me is right foot forward and the ball positioned about 6 to 8 inches âœalmost❠directly in front of the right foot.  The ball is just ever so slightly to the right. On longer putts, the head clearly passes on the outside of my foot. A short pop-stroke seems to work really well.  The stroke doesnâ™t even seem to come all the way to my foot.  

The question is - at what point is it no longer croquet and is side saddle?

The moment both your feet are inside the target line.  I believe if your right foot is on the target line (at all) - that would be illegal.  

I used to setup as your talking about - but I now put my right foot just inside the target line - and I use it as a putter guide.  My right foot prevents me from ever bringing my putter too far inside on the backstroke.  It's like using your body as a putter track.  That helped me get comfortable with the ball a little more to the right of my foot.  And it sounds like you may already be there or very close so that not much of an adjustment is needed.

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