Argonne69, on 30 June 2015 - 11:58 AM, said:
MountainKing, on 30 June 2015 - 11:51 AM, said:
avrag, on 30 June 2015 - 10:04 AM, said:
The fact that the OB topic comes up so often on this site irritates me to no end. Golf is supposed to be played on the course. If you leave the course, it should be the most severe penalty. The rules need not be changed just because real estate developpers try to cram golf courses into too small spaces in between houses. This needs to change, not the rules of golf.
That's not going to happen - like other sports the rules need to evolve to keep up with how things are being built. In a hazard you have the option to hit the ball as it lays, OB you don't have the option, that's the penalty difference. The rules are based on the professional game and the professional game and professional courses have evolved a lot differently than the amateur game has. I only would like to see the rules change from a selfish stand point of I get sick of sitting on the course for hours.
I don't understand why you believe OB slows down play. If anything, the act of determining where a ball crossed the course boundary, and executing the drop, would take more time than hitting a provisional. Heck, I see guys pull a 2nd ball out of their pocket and tee it up before the original ball has even hit the ground.
One hits a ball that looks like it might be OB, declares a provisional, tees it up, and fires away. If you then walk to the first ball and see that it's OB, you play your second. No delay.
It's not the act that you're describing, it's the weekend warrior who insists on playing everything by the rules who gets out there, determines it's OB by a foot then decides to trek back to the tee and start over, or the guy who decides he wants to tin cup it and hit 10 tee shots because they all keep slicing OB. I must be the only person who ends up behind these guys because I get funny looks when I tell them stories of this stuff.
Since you're local to me you'll get this one, Tanna Farms last year on hole 2 we're waiting and waiting for this group in front of us only to see the cart head back our way, guy says he finally found it OB and had to re-tee, so he does and it heads straight right again to the road, few minutes later he's back again...we ask to play through and he said the group in front of them was slow so there's no point, so he tees back up and finally gets one in play. A few holes later here he comes again....if the rules let him drop he would have dropped and hit and at least if that one went out he'd be making forward progress. I'm not saying we're turning a 5 hour round into a 3 hour round but at least this could keep things progressing in the right direction.
BTW - most people here aren't good judges of the average golfer, you and I both get the process and can play it accordingly and within a timely manner, the rest of the world tends to struggle with basic concepts like provisional balls and moving along....and it's for that group alone I'd like a few things changed to save my sanity!
Edited by MountainKing, 30 June 2015 - 12:06 PM.