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#1 ucdan5

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Posted 31 May 2015 - 02:19 AM

Has anyone played them? I saw a couple of irons on the bay for sale and they looked above my skill set, but sick looking nonetheless.... I love the caveman look of the grind on them.

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Posted 31 May 2015 - 07:33 AM

Unique but it would bother me to think that grinds are made so that a club reacts a certain way. Having these multiple small angles could have bad effects in certain lie conditions.

In that sense I would have to call them gimmicky or at least purely aesthetic, given that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Posted 31 May 2015 - 04:24 PM

Yeah, but it would give me an excuse why the blades that I'm using (which I can't hit) might have been off and it's why I left a Davey Crockett scalp of turf over the ball. And then I'd go back to saying.... "At least they're fun to look at!"

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 11:57 PM








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Posted 23 June 2015 - 12:29 AM

I wanna hit them MB's really bad. The non rainbow bright ones

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:00 AM


Edited by golfasaurus, 17 December 2016 - 06:06 AM.

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 08:02 AM


Edited by golfasaurus, 17 December 2016 - 06:06 AM.

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 09:24 AM

These are made in China, but using a Japanese word for the name. Strange.

"Ittobori" ("Itobori" would be a mistake) means "one knife" and is used in the context of carving something. The characters stamped on the irons are Chinese characters and not Japanese kanji.

Edited: here is an example of an ittobori carving:

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 09:54 AM

You mean the rabbit is made in China?

Just a note that these irons are made entirely in Japan
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Posted 23 June 2015 - 09:56 AM

And the definition of Kanji is Chinese characters

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 11:05 AM

Japanese characters are called "kanji" in Japanese. They are not called "kanji" in Chinese. They are also different. Japanese kanji was derived from Chinese characters, but they are no longer the same. These characters are Chinese, not Japanese "kanji." I can't read them and neither can any Japanese I asked.

Absolutely, the clubs look like they could be made in Japan. Who makes them? A small shop, I presume. As I said, it's strange that these are using Chinese kanji with a misspelled"romaji" for "ittobori." That may just be a look they're going for - an old hanko look.

It's easy to see how someone could be confused by this marketing idea.
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Posted 23 June 2015 - 01:42 PM

Ok, I would game the rainbow Brite irons, why not????


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 01:55 PM



Never mind, $2k AUD for 4-pw heads only in burning copper or rainbow brite finish....ouch

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 02:00 PM

Beautiful clubs.  It is an art form.  But I think for someone who truly understand club fitting or golf in general should know that a beautiful art does not necessarily means it is a good performing club to play with.  Don't get me wrong, if I have some spare cash (boy, for that kinda price I think I gotta be filthy rich), I'd love to have one of these in my display cabinet.  As an art form, something to admire, stare at and enjoy.  Won't make it into my bag though, that's for sure.

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 09:26 AM

These things are crazy looking, I would shaft 1 up and just put it on the wall. I would never dare to play with one of those


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Posted 12 November 2015 - 09:17 AM

I would shaft those up and stick them in the ground repeatedly.  The angles don't bother me at all, I think they would play just fine.  Like the wedges a lot!  Thanks for posting!
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Posted 12 November 2015 - 09:34 AM

 Soloman1, on 23 June 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

Japanese characters are called "kanji" in Japanese. They are not called "kanji" in Chinese. They are also different. Japanese kanji was derived from Chinese characters, but they are no longer the same. These characters are Chinese, not Japanese "kanji." I can't read them and neither can any Japanese I asked.

Absolutely, the clubs look like they could be made in Japan. Who makes them? A small shop, I presume. As I said, it's strange that these are using Chinese kanji with a misspelled"romaji" for "ittobori." That may just be a look they're going for - an old hanko look.

It's easy to see how someone could be confused by this marketing idea.

I was wondering what "Itobori" was supposed to mean.

I'm pretty sure the old style characters are just supposed to look like a hanko, and I think it says Takagi Masayuki (going clockwise from top right, it's 高, 木 (I think), maybe 幸 and then 真. But what I found interesting was the logo near the sole on the back that looks like an "M" wrapped in a "G": MG? Hinting at Miura Giken?
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Posted 21 February 2016 - 07:35 PM

Hate to bump an old thread, but anymore info on these?

Any buy some to see what they are like?

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Posted 07 March 2016 - 02:59 PM

These are Kyoei heads with special grinds and finishes, really using the same molds as Vega. My thinking is those multiple angle grinds on the sole could make for some inconsistent turf interaction.
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Posted 04 April 2016 - 08:49 AM




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Posted 02 September 2016 - 09:47 AM

Bumping this old thread to see if anyone has actually played with them? Specifically the CB heads.  They look absolutely amazing.

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 10:08 AM

My local club fitter is now offering Itobori.  He is a golf digest top 100 fitter and says that these are some of the best looking clubs he has ever seen.  Link to the pdf of the 2016-2017 line below.  I might try to go and see if he has any demo clubs in stock that I could try just to see them in person and how they perform.

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Posted 07 September 2016 - 10:29 AM

Some of the coolest looking clubs I've seen
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Posted 08 September 2016 - 02:18 AM

I would love to give a copper seven iron a good spanking!
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Posted 08 September 2016 - 11:45 PM

I am loving the driver. Is anyone using it and what shaft are you using?


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Posted 09 September 2016 - 09:36 AM

I hit the rainbow in a 56 degree wedge. To me, the grind is all about looks, no functional change. Wedge was a ball shredder. Literally pieces of ball cover stuck in the grooves. Finnish wore very quickly settling into a nice copper color.
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Posted 25 September 2016 - 09:02 PM

It was pretty cool to see how they grind them.  They tied them up to the back of the golf cart and dragged them down the cart path for
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Posted 04 October 2016 - 07:17 AM

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Posted 04 October 2016 - 01:10 PM

I think that as long as the overall bounce characteristics are there, the angles would be unnoticed in turf interaction.  If they really are kyoei blanks (seams reasonable) then they should feel damn good, play like normal clubs and look bad a**.  I would totally game a set.

I think that as long as the overall bounce characteristics are there, the angles would be unnoticed in turf interaction.  If they really are kyoei blanks (seams reasonable) then they should feel damn good, play like normal clubs and look bad a**.  I would totally game a set.
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Posted 07 October 2016 - 04:06 PM

 Soloman1, on 23 June 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

Japanese characters are called "kanji" in Japanese. They are not called "kanji" in Chinese. They are also different. Japanese kanji was derived from Chinese characters, but they are no longer the same. These characters are Chinese, not Japanese "kanji." I can't read them and neither can any Japanese I asked.

Absolutely, the clubs look like they could be made in Japan. Who makes them? A small shop, I presume. As I said, it's strange that these are using Chinese kanji with a misspelled"romaji" for "ittobori." That may just be a look they're going for - an old hanko look.

It's easy to see how someone could be confused by this marketing idea.

So, there are many evolutions of Kanji. Japanese people can read the Kanji, but it just has no meaning. It doesn't make sense in Japanese.  But to be honest, there are Japanese Kanji that are still just like the original Chinese characters, so don't get that mistaken.  Also in Japan it is common to misspell when translating to romaji, which coincidentally is "roomaji" not "romaji".  My guess is not that it is a misspelling or a marketing thing, but more strategy to remove any mixup in searching for their product.  I'm sure they know that their product looks like "ittobori" as is evident by the way the grind looks like it has been 'carved'.  "ittobori" holds a long history and is part of Japanese history, one would likely not want to confuse customers when they are searching or looking for the product.  The Kanji itself is actually a different story, so whoever romanized the translation of the word may have done it from the Chinese translation.  In Japanese, there would be an evident small 'tsu' but when written out in Chinese characters, that isn't evident. Which would probably translate to itobori. There could be a myriad of reasons why it's written that way. Lots of things get lost in translation.  For example, I can write my name in 5 Chinese characters as adapted from a Japanese person, but if anyone reads it, they won't know what it means. It doesn't mean they can't read it, just doesn't have a meaning.  The style of the kanji/characters is also older style.  In Chinese characters, there are also two 'sounds' for each character, which I believe are pinyin and on, but I could be wrong about that.  Knowing when to use each is another story, lol. When I was living in Japan, if you saw two Kanji, it could be a combination of any four sounds, and to make things more difficult if it was a person's name, it could sound completely different... But they learn from a young age. The four characters could mean anything really...it could be the first four characters of the four people who started the company; it could be the first two characters of the two people who started the company.  Who knows? Without asking them directly what the stamp means we're never going to know.  Come to think of it, maybe I will shoot them an e-mail and just ask them what it means, that might be simpler. hahaha

But in any case, you don't normally find these clubs in any major stores in Japan. You'll find them as "kojin keieiten" or plainly put "privately run shop".  When I went looking for a putter, seven, it was actually out in Niigata.  Too far to travel just to 'look' at a putter...I'd have to really be prepared to buy it.  So I ended up going to Shinjuku to small shop and found myself a nice Epon i-33. Great putter, and game it all the time now.  Scotty went in the backup bag. lol.

These clubs are definitely Japanese made... there is no doubt about it.

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