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whats more rare, a hole in one or an albatross?


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#1 MINIGOLFADDICT

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 12:24 AM

aka double eagle.


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Posted 02 April 2015 - 12:27 AM

albatross by a bunch.
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Posted 02 April 2015 - 12:28 AM

whys that.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 01:57 AM

A par 5 Albatross 2 is 37 times more rare than a par 3 ace and here is a list of reasons why:

1.  Generally they are much longer shots hit with longer clubs.

2.  The ball is hit off the ground not off a tee.

3.  You have a variety of sloping lies to deal with cause you are not hitting from a flat tee box every time like you are on a par 3 hole.
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Posted 02 April 2015 - 02:22 AM

View Poststratdogg_pro, on 02 April 2015 - 01:57 AM, said:

A par 5 Albatross 2 is 37 times more rare than a par 3 ace and here is a list of reasons why:

1.  Generally they are much longer shots hit with longer clubs.

2.  The ball is hit off the ground not off a tee.

3.  You have a variety of sloping lies to deal with cause you are not hitting from a flat tee box every time like you are on a par 3 hole.

4. You have to have hit a decent first shot to a) be in range b) be in the fairway with a line to the pin

you can go into plenty of par 3s with 7 iron or less and thats just not the case with par 5s

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 06:35 AM

Because 90% of your golfers can't reach a par 5 in 2 shots or driver what we dub a drivable par 4.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 06:38 AM

Every player has 4 reasonable shots at a hole in one every round on an average course but most people rarely get within range of a par 5 for their second.  So even assuming the shots were equal difficulty (which they aren't) the odds of dunking your second on a par 5 are already much lower than an ace just on opportunity alone.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 07:34 AM

My friend one had an ace, then two holes later an albatross.

I hate him.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 07:37 AM

And Par 5 greens are generally designed for shorter clubs to be hit into.  They're typically designed for the 3rd shot, not the 2nd shot.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 07:45 AM

this is the best evidence i could find, but here's an interesting quote....

Between 1983 to 2003, there were 631 aces on the PGA Tour but just 56 double-eagles - and never more than six albatrosses in one year.

so...11 times more likely.  i can't imagine those numbers are much different the last 12 years.

Edited by Titleist1455, 02 April 2015 - 07:46 AM.


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Posted 02 April 2015 - 08:00 AM

I have had nine holes in one - one double eagle.

One of my aces was 115 yard hole.

You are not going to have a 115 yard shot at a double eagle, as a rule.
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Posted 02 April 2015 - 08:07 AM


albatross


View Postgolfinray, on 02 April 2015 - 08:00 AM, said:

I have had nine holes in one - one double eagle.

One of my aces was 115 yard hole.

You are not going to have a 115 yard shot at a double eagle, as a rule.

Seriously????????
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Posted 02 April 2015 - 09:01 AM

albatross or double eagle since there are more par threes versus reachable par 4's or shorter par 5's
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Posted 02 April 2015 - 11:50 AM

Is this a hungover April fools day thread?

Edited by BobbyDPlaysGolf, 02 April 2015 - 12:47 PM.

Why play it safe?

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 12:41 PM

View PostTitleist1455, on 02 April 2015 - 07:45 AM, said:

this is the best evidence i could find, but here's an interesting quote....

Between 1983 to 2003, there were 631 aces on the PGA Tour but just 56 double-eagles - and never more than six albatrosses in one year.

so...11 times more likely.  i can't imagine those numbers are much different the last 12 years.
Those figures are accurate for the PGA TOUR but are not accurate overall for all golfers. Those guys get many more Albatross opportunities than the general golfing population.... due to their considerable length off the tee they reach par fives in 2 way more often than "Joe Golfer" Hence the 37 times more rare overall statistic.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 04:18 PM

View PostHateto3Putt, on 02 April 2015 - 07:34 AM, said:

My friend one had an ace, then two holes later an albatross.

I hate him.

Me too!!! He can brag about that the rest of his life.....

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 04:35 PM

Double eagle for sure.

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Posted 02 April 2015 - 04:42 PM

View PostMoneyPlayer33, on 02 April 2015 - 06:35 AM, said:

Because 90% of your golfers can't reach a par 5 in 2 shots or driver what we dub a drivable par 4.

View Postllewol007, on 02 April 2015 - 09:01 AM, said:

albatross or double eagle since there are more par threes versus reachable par 4's or shorter par 5's

Par 4 holes don't count in this thread. (1=4-3)

Edited by Fade, 02 April 2015 - 04:43 PM.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 08:05 PM

I have two albatross', and one ace (on a par 4).

So technically, three albatross' but no ace on a par 3...yet!
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Posted 05 April 2015 - 05:39 PM

just mathematically its an albatross. If you think about basically every par 3 is a possible ace. To get an albatross, you need a reachable Par 5, you need to hit a good drive, and then hole an approach from 200-250 yards out which is much longer than most every par 3. Now factor in that the types of shots you most likely would get an ace on- a wedge or shorter iron type shot that you have a lot more control with, especially compared with hitting a fairway or hybrid shot.


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Posted 12 April 2015 - 12:45 PM

View Postidriveahonda, on 04 April 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

I have two albatross', and one ace (on a par 4).

So technically, three albatross' but no ace on a par 3...yet!

Yeah that's really rough, my condolences.

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 01:08 PM

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 01:29 PM

Guy I play with had the ugliest albatross ever. Hit his second shot in the woods on a reachable par 5 at the home course. Came out dead left of the trees, bounced on the cart path and was on a bee line for the bottom of the cup. I've rarely seen him hit the ball in the trees that hasn't come out in or near the fairway or green. He has to be sore walking around with that horseshoe planted in his rectum.

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 03:57 PM

For me, a hole in one has been utterly elusive.  Have hit the stick on the fly and bounce many times, Have holed out approaches on par 4's several times, and I have 2 albatrosses  (25 years apart, and just missed a third last week). Cannot buy a hole in one, though.  Gave it a scare today with a low drawn pitching wedge to a back pin on a 125 yard par 3.  Stuck 6' behind, checked and rolled 3-4" wide of the hole and finished 8" away.

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 08:43 PM

I've had an albatross as well, but no hole in ones. I've lipped out many many times, just can't get one to fall.


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Posted 12 April 2015 - 08:48 PM

Definitely a double eagle.  I know numerous folks who play only once or twice a year & have made holes-in-one on 100'yd par 3's with their drivers or 3-woods & they're at least 40+ handicappers.   They don't even know what a double eagle is, much less have a chance at making one.

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 08:54 PM

My Albatross was with a PW in hand... does that make it any less of an albatross?

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 09:17 PM

I  came within a few inches of a hole in one albatross a couple of weeks ago.  It was short downhill par 4 and I ended up five feet past the hole (about 290ish) on line from the tee box, so I must have missed the hole by a few inches.  Too bad.  That's been my dream hole-in-one.  I don't have one yet.

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Posted 12 April 2015 - 09:32 PM

How about a shot that is both a hole-in-one and a double eagle.

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 08:23 PM

Albatross by a long shot. Everyone can hit a 150ish yd shot with pretty good accuracy. It's hard to reach a par 5 in two, just based on distance and to add to that be accurate.


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