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Who actually uses a stiff arm in their travel bag?


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#61 Tin Cup Mike

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Posted 14 April 2015 - 02:22 PM

I started using one after I arrived in Jacksonville, FL and my 910 driver shaft was in two pieces.  

US Airways was nice enough to buy me a new driver even though I only needed a shaft...lol

I also use Club Glove head covers on my irons and wedges and then wrap a big towel around the top of the bag
to keep things nice and snug.

Edited by Tin Cup Mike, 14 April 2015 - 02:31 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 07:36 PM

i'm still waiting for the survey results to reach 90/10 on this....
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 12:30 PM

I always use the two together!
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Posted 20 April 2015 - 12:34 PM

I use one whenever i travel.  do you guys remove your heads (adjustable clubs of course)?  I havent been , but have been thinking about.
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Posted 12 June 2015 - 01:01 AM

Yes, always.

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 09:12 AM

View Postturftaker, on 23 March 2015 - 09:44 PM, said:

View Postmanglarn, on 01 March 2015 - 03:13 PM, said:

maybe i´m overly cautious but I like to put the stiff arm in the bag then wrap a towel around the heads, then to top i all of a plastic bucket goes on top. Has worked great so far.

Really like this too. Keeps all the club heads to the confines of the bag.
Every time I do this the TSA agents end up pulling all the clubs out anyways, and whatever time I spent elaborately wrapping my towels around my clubs was a waste.  Are they leaving yours alone?

BTW I also use a Stiff Arm...I see it as an alternative to buying far more expensive travel bag (which I'll do someday anyways).

Also can't believe I never thought to take heads off the driver and 3-wood...will be doing that from now on.
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Posted 12 June 2015 - 09:22 AM

I use it all the time. As mentioned, never an issue until something happens. Why risk it.

Would suck to arrive at your golfing destination only to find your driver snapped in half and to have to play your dream course with a persimmon hickory wood.
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Posted 15 June 2015 - 05:28 PM

View Postjohnnybogey, on 12 June 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

I use it all the time. As mentioned, never an issue until something happens. Why risk it.

Would suck to arrive at your golfing destination only to find your driver snapped in half and to have to play your dream course with a persimmon hickory wood.

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 11:32 AM

View Postgolfdad907, on 15 June 2015 - 05:28 PM, said:

View Postjohnnybogey, on 12 June 2015 - 09:22 AM, said:

I use it all the time. As mentioned, never an issue until something happens. Why risk it.

Would suck to arrive at your golfing destination only to find your driver snapped in half and to have to play your dream course with a persimmon hickory wood.

What Johnny said above.
It sounds like a great excuse to get a new driver! I guess you got to think positive.

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Posted 26 June 2015 - 01:20 PM

Better question, for those NOT using a Stiff Arm (private jets excluded) why aren't you?

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 08:02 AM

Southwest airlines snapped my ad-di a few years ago, been using one ever since. I like the dowel idea too!

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Posted 28 June 2015 - 11:16 AM

I just saw a Twitter post from Bubba Watson wherein he showed how he likes to bring his xbox with him when traveling alone. In the background of the picture was his Ping driver and a Club Glove stiff arm!!

Edited by Hathstauwk, 28 June 2015 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 12:46 PM

Always, always, always use a stiff arm.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 09:01 PM

View Postgolfdad907, on 26 June 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

Better question, for those NOT using a Stiff Arm (private jets excluded) why aren't you?

Not using a stiff arm because I prefer a hard case.  I have an SKB hard case.  I just place my golf bag in the case and close it up.  No need to wrap the clubs in towels or extra padding.  No hassle.  Smaller than a last bag or burst proof (with golf bag inside).

There are lots of posts in this forum about golf club damage with soft travel bags.

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Posted 06 July 2015 - 09:20 PM

View Postreflection, on 06 July 2015 - 09:01 PM, said:

View Postgolfdad907, on 26 June 2015 - 01:20 PM, said:

Better question, for those NOT using a Stiff Arm (private jets excluded) why aren't you?

Not using a stiff arm because I prefer a hard case.  I have an SKB hard case.  I just place my golf bag in the case and close it up.  No need to wrap the clubs in towels or extra padding.  No hassle.  Smaller than a last bag or burst proof (with golf bag inside).

There are lots of posts in this forum about golf club damage with soft travel bags.


...i agree that high quality hard cases--specially the SKB-probably provide the best protection when travelling with our prized equipment but man!...they're so heavy!!

i had the SKB double recurve case for my archery equipment carrying 2 complete set-ups when i traveled to major events and they weighed more than 50lbs.......finally sold it and got 2 smaller hard cases for this purpose...

the stiff-arm is really geared for those who use soft cases as it's going to be redundant if you already have a good hard case...

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Posted 07 July 2015 - 11:03 AM

I have used a stiff arm since I started travelling with my clubs. Why not have the extra level of protection?
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Posted 20 July 2015 - 01:20 AM

Never travel without it
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 12:19 AM

I use a broomstick, but might add a second.  I put it in the center, and then organize the longest clubs in the middle and then work outwards.  I wrap the long clubs together with the stick using a beach towel, then wrap blue tape around the towel.  Then I wrap another towel around the outside ring of irons and wedges and tape that up too.  Then the rain cover goes on.  It's pretty stout.  Never thought to remove the driver head, but will be doing that going forward.  Don't forget to pack the tape for the return trip.  After it goes in the bag, I might stuff shoes and other stuff in the top of the bag.
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Posted 29 July 2015 - 06:46 PM

Same here, I just use a broom handle and extra towels

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Posted 09 July 2016 - 09:33 PM

View Postscratchskier, on 16 February 2015 - 01:26 AM, said:

Been using my travel bag without a stiff arm forever, no problems. Does the stiff arm just give a false impression of safety?

btw, just because your stiff arms bends, breaks, plastic piece shatters... doesn't mean ur clubs would've broke.



Who actually uses a stiff arm in their travel bag?

If you use a travel bag - don't knock the people using a stiff arm.  You're sort of making fun of yourself b/c both are basically like insurance - it's peace of mind if you actually need it, and it's peace of mind if you don't.

Prior to getting Club Glove as a gift - I used a plain old canvas cover with a zipper...for about 10 years.   I put all the club into the 2 middle slots in my bag and snaked a big long towel among and around the heads.   I got a Club Glove as a gift so I started using that....and guess what?  I still pack all the clubs in the 2 middle slots of the bag, and wrap a towel around the heads.   More than a Club Glove, or a Stiff Arm (I don't use one)....I think I'd freak out if I didn't have the towel!  :) :)

Edited by ChipDriver, 09 July 2016 - 11:33 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2016 - 11:25 PM

View PostToph84, on 16 February 2015 - 05:07 PM, said:

Go to the hardware store and buy a wooden dowel rod for $2 to $4 and have it cut to whatever length you need for your travel bag. Get 1/2" or bigger. Wrap a towel on the end of the dowel if its too short.

I did this in the old days....until it broke in transit....wood is just not as strong as metal....clubs were okay.

However now I have a real Stiff Arm. Cheap insurance. Crazy to not have one.
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Posted 10 July 2016 - 07:15 AM

Why wouldn't you use one?
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Posted 10 July 2016 - 09:38 AM

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

Why wouldn't you use one?

No real need for it?   Other equally effective solutions?   It's a $30 "broom stick" VS well...a broom stick.  :)  

FWIW - this is Club Glove's own information about the stiff arm - warranty info:

This product is designed to minimize vertical impact damage to your valuable clubs while inside a Club Glove® travel bag. It is by no means indestructible. Each impact the Stiff Arm® absorbs will weaken its protective qualities. To maximize your club protection we recommend that you inspect your Stiff Arm® after each use and replace it as needed (The Stiff Arm® is a far less expensive replacement than a new driver). If your Stiff Arm® is damaged and your clubs are not, it has done its job.
This product is “disposable”, and is offered for sale “AS IS”. This means that the entire risk as to the quality and performance of the goods is with the buyer. Should the goods prove defective following their purchase, the buyer and not the manufacture, distributor, or retailer assumes the entire cost of all necessary servicing or repair.

WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATIONS THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY AND THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE OR LOSS OF USE. Some states do not permit the exclusion or limitation of implied warranties and/or incidental or consequential damages, so this exclusion may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may have other legal rights that vary from state to state.


It means - you buy it - we don't guarantee it will protect anything - even if your driver breaks, or the Stiff Arm breaks - it's all on you.

With today's adjustable drivers one could avoid even a broomstick by removing the driver head and sticking it in a pocket.

Edited by ChipDriver, 10 July 2016 - 09:41 AM.


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Posted 10 July 2016 - 09:39 AM

Who actually uses a stiff arm in their travel bag?

If you're like me, and your bag contains almost $2,000 worth of clubs, the $24.99 cost of the stiff arm is insurance at pennies on the dollar.  Nowadays, its not hard to have a $2,000 bag (at replacement cost).  The driver alone is $300 - $500, and it is the most likely club to be broken.

As some have said, its not a problem, until its a problem.
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Posted 10 July 2016 - 09:42 AM

I've always used one, but I travel with those that don't use one. Everything has been fine for all. But using one or the homemade equivalent, is cheap insurance. I like the store bought because aluminum is very strong and it collapses way down for storage.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 10:24 AM

View PostChipDriver, on 10 July 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

Why wouldn't you use one?

No real need for it?   Other equally effective solutions?   It's a $30 "broom stick" VS well...a broom stick.  :)  

FWIW - this is Club Glove's own information about the stiff arm - warranty info:

This product is designed to minimize vertical impact damage to your valuable clubs while inside a Club Glove® travel bag. It is by no means indestructible. Each impact the Stiff Arm® absorbs will weaken its protective qualities. To maximize your club protection we recommend that you inspect your Stiff Arm® after each use and replace it as needed (The Stiff Arm® is a far less expensive replacement than a new driver). If your Stiff Arm® is damaged and your clubs are not, it has done its job.
This product is “disposable”, and is offered for sale “AS IS”. This means that the entire risk as to the quality and performance of the goods is with the buyer. Should the goods prove defective following their purchase, the buyer and not the manufacture, distributor, or retailer assumes the entire cost of all necessary servicing or repair.

WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATIONS THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY AND THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE OR LOSS OF USE. Some states do not permit the exclusion or limitation of implied warranties and/or incidental or consequential damages, so this exclusion may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may have other legal rights that vary from state to state.


It means - you buy it - we don't guarantee it will protect anything - even if your driver breaks, or the Stiff Arm breaks - it's all on you.

With today's adjustable drivers one could avoid even a broomstick by removing the driver head and sticking it in a pocket.

Well, don't use one if you don't feel like it, or have other options
I use my religiously and feel it does a great job protecting my sticks
:)
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Posted 10 July 2016 - 01:16 PM

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostChipDriver, on 10 July 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

Why wouldn't you use one?

No real need for it?   Other equally effective solutions?   It's a $30 "broom stick" VS well...a broom stick.  :)  

FWIW - this is Club Glove's own information about the stiff arm - warranty info:

This product is designed to minimize vertical impact damage to your valuable clubs while inside a Club Glove® travel bag. It is by no means indestructible. Each impact the Stiff Arm® absorbs will weaken its protective qualities. To maximize your club protection we recommend that you inspect your Stiff Arm® after each use and replace it as needed (The Stiff Arm® is a far less expensive replacement than a new driver). If your Stiff Arm® is damaged and your clubs are not, it has done its job.
This product is “disposable”, and is offered for sale “AS IS”. This means that the entire risk as to the quality and performance of the goods is with the buyer. Should the goods prove defective following their purchase, the buyer and not the manufacture, distributor, or retailer assumes the entire cost of all necessary servicing or repair.

WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATIONS THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY AND THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE OR LOSS OF USE. Some states do not permit the exclusion or limitation of implied warranties and/or incidental or consequential damages, so this exclusion may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may have other legal rights that vary from state to state.


It means - you buy it - we don't guarantee it will protect anything - even if your driver breaks, or the Stiff Arm breaks - it's all on you.

With today's adjustable drivers one could avoid even a broomstick by removing the driver head and sticking it in a pocket.

Well, don't use one if you don't feel like it, or have other options
I use my religiously and feel it does a great job protecting my sticks
:)

Sorry - I thought you were asking an honest question, not a rhetorical one.   I agree if it gives you peace of mind - do it, it's cheap.  

My point is that what you and I think it might do - the manufacturer doesn't care....and goes out of its way to disclaim everything about it.    By it's own language they could sell you a bad one - and they are saying it's not their problem.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 02:00 PM

View PostChipDriver, on 10 July 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostChipDriver, on 10 July 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

Why wouldn't you use one?

No real need for it?   Other equally effective solutions?   It's a $30 "broom stick" VS well...a broom stick.  :)  

FWIW - this is Club Glove's own information about the stiff arm - warranty info:

This product is designed to minimize vertical impact damage to your valuable clubs while inside a Club Glove® travel bag. It is by no means indestructible. Each impact the Stiff Arm® absorbs will weaken its protective qualities. To maximize your club protection we recommend that you inspect your Stiff Arm® after each use and replace it as needed (The Stiff Arm® is a far less expensive replacement than a new driver). If your Stiff Arm® is damaged and your clubs are not, it has done its job.
This product is “disposable”, and is offered for sale “AS IS”. This means that the entire risk as to the quality and performance of the goods is with the buyer. Should the goods prove defective following their purchase, the buyer and not the manufacture, distributor, or retailer assumes the entire cost of all necessary servicing or repair.

WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATIONS THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY AND THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE OR LOSS OF USE. Some states do not permit the exclusion or limitation of implied warranties and/or incidental or consequential damages, so this exclusion may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may have other legal rights that vary from state to state.


It means - you buy it - we don't guarantee it will protect anything - even if your driver breaks, or the Stiff Arm breaks - it's all on you.

With today's adjustable drivers one could avoid even a broomstick by removing the driver head and sticking it in a pocket.

Well, don't use one if you don't feel like it, or have other options
I use my religiously and feel it does a great job protecting my sticks
:)

Sorry - I thought you were asking an honest question, not a rhetorical one.   I agree if it gives you peace of mind - do it, it's cheap.  

My point is that what you and I think it might do - the manufacturer doesn't care....and goes out of its way to disclaim everything about it.    By it's own language they could sell you a bad one - and they are saying it's not their problem.
With Club Glove I think that is done by the attorneys to protect themselves. But to be honest I had an issue with one of their bags that got a hole worn in it during a rough flight. They couldn't have been more accommodating and replaced the bag promptly.

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Posted 10 July 2016 - 08:49 PM

View PostAndy L, on 10 July 2016 - 02:00 PM, said:

View PostChipDriver, on 10 July 2016 - 01:16 PM, said:

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

View PostChipDriver, on 10 July 2016 - 09:38 AM, said:

View PostBYK, on 10 July 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

Why wouldn't you use one?

No real need for it?   Other equally effective solutions?   It's a $30 "broom stick" VS well...a broom stick.  :)  

FWIW - this is Club Glove's own information about the stiff arm - warranty info:

This product is designed to minimize vertical impact damage to your valuable clubs while inside a Club Glove® travel bag. It is by no means indestructible. Each impact the Stiff Arm® absorbs will weaken its protective qualities. To maximize your club protection we recommend that you inspect your Stiff Arm® after each use and replace it as needed (The Stiff Arm® is a far less expensive replacement than a new driver). If your Stiff Arm® is damaged and your clubs are not, it has done its job.
This product is "disposable", and is offered for sale "AS IS". This means that the entire risk as to the quality and performance of the goods is with the buyer. Should the goods prove defective following their purchase, the buyer and not the manufacture, distributor, or retailer assumes the entire cost of all necessary servicing or repair.

WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. SPECIFICALLY DISCLAIMS ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATIONS THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY AND THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. IN NO EVENT SHALL WEST COAST TRENDS, INC. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE OR LOSS OF USE. Some states do not permit the exclusion or limitation of implied warranties and/or incidental or consequential damages, so this exclusion may not apply to you. This warranty gives you specific legal rights and you may have other legal rights that vary from state to state.


It means - you buy it - we don't guarantee it will protect anything - even if your driver breaks, or the Stiff Arm breaks - it's all on you.

With today's adjustable drivers one could avoid even a broomstick by removing the driver head and sticking it in a pocket.

Well, don't use one if you don't feel like it, or have other options
I use my religiously and feel it does a great job protecting my sticks
:)

Sorry - I thought you were asking an honest question, not a rhetorical one.   I agree if it gives you peace of mind - do it, it's cheap.  

My point is that what you and I think it might do - the manufacturer doesn't care....and goes out of its way to disclaim everything about it. By it's own language they could sell you a bad one - and they are saying it's not their problem.
With Club Glove I think that is done by the attorneys to protect themselves. But to be honest I had an issue with one of their bags that got a hole worn in it during a rough flight. They couldn't have been more accommodating and replaced the bag promptly.

The bag is not the same thing as the stiff arm.

The bag guarantees it will provide some level of protection.  The stiff arm does not.

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 08:49 AM

I use an SKB hard case and also use the Stiff Arm. My little ultralight carry bag, even with 14 clubs, isn't nearly big enough to fill up the SKB. WIthout the Stiff Arm the clubs/bag can shift several inches back and forth inside the case. The Stiff Arm locks everything into place "vertically" and also tends to damp down any movement from side to side.

Agree with the earlier comment about the futility of elaborate wrapping and packaging schemes inside your bag. All my travel is international and maybe it's different domestically but the TSA folks at my home airport always pull the clubs out of the bag and put them back. I can't imagine they would spend 20 minutes re-wrapping towels or socks or whatever around each club. And the guys at the European airport won't either, presumably.

Everything has its drawbacks, as the man said when his mother-in-law died, and they came down upon him for the funeral expenses.

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