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#3241 generally john

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:19 AM

Any thoughts on original mtb vs the new ones?


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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:55 AM

View Postgenerally john, on 27 April 2018 - 08:19 AM, said:

Any thoughts on original mtb vs the new ones?

I can only speak for the black, softer then the original, and less side spin off driver...wedge is about the same

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 09:39 AM

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 01:33 PM

Well somehow I found the MTB Red on Amazon prime Canada. One left for 'Prime' 2-day shipping. $40 (note: Same price is there, but a 2-3 week wait - still free shipping for us Canadians)

Soooooo not sure if that will keep happening but damn that would be nice if it did. Looking for the blacks up here too!
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 02:39 PM

I’ve determined the Reds are not good balls......


They don’t float!!!

My red today joined the original one that I had so many holes on. They are resting together at the bottom of the same lake!

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:08 PM

Second round update with both balls.

After a less than stellar ball-striking round earlier in the week for both the wife and I, where we were both less than impressed with either ball, we got another round in this morning in perfect conditions with both of us hitting the ball better today. We both went back and forth hitting both the Red and Black on different holes on the front nine.

With the driver, the wife did not hit either ball as far as she hits the Pro V1X. Irons were about the same but the Black did not stop well at all on shots into the green. The Red definitely stopped better for her and about as good as the X. She stuck with the Red for the entire back nine as she liked it much better. She will continue to test it even though she is pretty convinced that it is shorter the Pro V1X but has completely eliminated the Black.

For me, with the driver, the Black was easily 5-10 yards shorter than the Pro V1X but the Red was about the same as the Pro V1X. I hit the irons pretty much the same distance with with all 3 balls and all 3 played pretty similar around the green. I definitely liked the feel of the Red much better than the Black as it felt more like the V1X. I did hit the Black exclusively on the back nine just to nail down my thoughts. After doing so, I have pretty much totally eliminated the Black from consideration but will continue to test the Red as it is pretty much the same ball as the Pro V1X in my opinion.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:21 PM

View Postdeadsolid...shank, on 27 April 2018 - 02:39 PM, said:

I’ve determined the Reds are not good balls......


They don’t float!!!

My red today joined the original one that I had so many holes on. They are resting together at the bottom of the same lake!

That was decent of you to lay them both to rest together.
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:27 PM

View PostNorth Texas, on 27 April 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

Second round update with both balls.

After a less than stellar ball-striking round earlier in the week for both the wife and I, where we were both less than impressed with either ball, we got another round in this morning in perfect conditions with both of us hitting the ball better today. We both went back and forth hitting both the Red and Black on different holes on the front nine.

With the driver, the wife did not hit either ball as far as she hits the Pro V1X. Irons were about the same but the Black did not stop well at all on shots into the green. The Red definitely stopped better for her and about as good as the X. She stuck with the Red for the entire back nine as she liked it much better. She will continue to test it even though she is pretty convinced that it is shorter the Pro V1X but has completely eliminated the Black.

For me, with the driver, the Black was easily 5-10 yards shorter than the Pro V1X but the Red was about the same as the Pro V1X. I hit the irons pretty much the same distance with with all 3 balls and all 3 played pretty similar around the green. I definitely liked the feel of the Red much better than the Black as it felt more like the V1X. I did hit the Black exclusively on the back nine just to nail down my thoughts. After doing so, I have pretty much totally eliminated the Black from consideration but will continue to test the Red as it is pretty much the same ball as the Pro V1X in my opinion.

Seems like one of the few negative reviews in this thread.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts as it's useful having different opinions come up in the discussion.
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:42 PM

View Postebrasmus21, on 27 April 2018 - 03:27 PM, said:

View PostNorth Texas, on 27 April 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

Second round update with both balls.

After a less than stellar ball-striking round earlier in the week for both the wife and I, where we were both less than impressed with either ball, we got another round in this morning in perfect conditions with both of us hitting the ball better today. We both went back and forth hitting both the Red and Black on different holes on the front nine.

With the driver, the wife did not hit either ball as far as she hits the Pro V1X. Irons were about the same but the Black did not stop well at all on shots into the green. The Red definitely stopped better for her and about as good as the X. She stuck with the Red for the entire back nine as she liked it much better. She will continue to test it even though she is pretty convinced that it is shorter the Pro V1X but has completely eliminated the Black.

For me, with the driver, the Black was easily 5-10 yards shorter than the Pro V1X but the Red was about the same as the Pro V1X. I hit the irons pretty much the same distance with with all 3 balls and all 3 played pretty similar around the green. I definitely liked the feel of the Red much better than the Black as it felt more like the V1X. I did hit the Black exclusively on the back nine just to nail down my thoughts. After doing so, I have pretty much totally eliminated the Black from consideration but will continue to test the Red as it is pretty much the same ball as the Pro V1X in my opinion.

Seems like one of the few negative reviews in this thread.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts as it's useful having different opinions come up in the discussion.

Not completely negative.

I've hit just about every premium ball there is in the past several years and I will have to say that I do think the the Red is one of the better balls that I have hit. If I wasn't using the Pro V1X, I don't know that the Red wouldn't be the ball I would use.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 04:21 PM

View PostNorth Texas, on 27 April 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 27 April 2018 - 03:27 PM, said:

View PostNorth Texas, on 27 April 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

Second round update with both balls.

After a less than stellar ball-striking round earlier in the week for both the wife and I, where we were both less than impressed with either ball, we got another round in this morning in perfect conditions with both of us hitting the ball better today. We both went back and forth hitting both the Red and Black on different holes on the front nine.

With the driver, the wife did not hit either ball as far as she hits the Pro V1X. Irons were about the same but the Black did not stop well at all on shots into the green. The Red definitely stopped better for her and about as good as the X. She stuck with the Red for the entire back nine as she liked it much better. She will continue to test it even though she is pretty convinced that it is shorter the Pro V1X but has completely eliminated the Black.

For me, with the driver, the Black was easily 5-10 yards shorter than the Pro V1X but the Red was about the same as the Pro V1X. I hit the irons pretty much the same distance with with all 3 balls and all 3 played pretty similar around the green. I definitely liked the feel of the Red much better than the Black as it felt more like the V1X. I did hit the Black exclusively on the back nine just to nail down my thoughts. After doing so, I have pretty much totally eliminated the Black from consideration but will continue to test the Red as it is pretty much the same ball as the Pro V1X in my opinion.

Seems like one of the few negative reviews in this thread.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts as it's useful having different opinions come up in the discussion.

Not completely negative.

I've hit just about every premium ball there is in the past several years and I will have to say that I do think the the Red is one of the better balls that I have hit. If I wasn't using the Pro V1X, I don't know that it wouldn't be the ball I would use.

Your review validates the design of Red comparable to V1x.  Though I have not tried new versions, I am more and more convinced to keep Black in my bag.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 10:17 PM

View Postflushem, on 27 April 2018 - 04:21 PM, said:

View PostNorth Texas, on 27 April 2018 - 03:42 PM, said:

View Postebrasmus21, on 27 April 2018 - 03:27 PM, said:

View PostNorth Texas, on 27 April 2018 - 03:08 PM, said:

Second round update with both balls.

After a less than stellar ball-striking round earlier in the week for both the wife and I, where we were both less than impressed with either ball, we got another round in this morning in perfect conditions with both of us hitting the ball better today. We both went back and forth hitting both the Red and Black on different holes on the front nine.

With the driver, the wife did not hit either ball as far as she hits the Pro V1X. Irons were about the same but the Black did not stop well at all on shots into the green. The Red definitely stopped better for her and about as good as the X. She stuck with the Red for the entire back nine as she liked it much better. She will continue to test it even though she is pretty convinced that it is shorter the Pro V1X but has completely eliminated the Black.

For me, with the driver, the Black was easily 5-10 yards shorter than the Pro V1X but the Red was about the same as the Pro V1X. I hit the irons pretty much the same distance with with all 3 balls and all 3 played pretty similar around the green. I definitely liked the feel of the Red much better than the Black as it felt more like the V1X. I did hit the Black exclusively on the back nine just to nail down my thoughts. After doing so, I have pretty much totally eliminated the Black from consideration but will continue to test the Red as it is pretty much the same ball as the Pro V1X in my opinion.

Seems like one of the few negative reviews in this thread.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts as it's useful having different opinions come up in the discussion.

Not completely negative.

I've hit just about every premium ball there is in the past several years and I will have to say that I do think the the Red is one of the better balls that I have hit. If I wasn't using the Pro V1X, I don't know that it wouldn't be the ball I would use.

Your review validates the design of Red comparable to V1x.  Though I have not tried new versions, I am more and more convinced to keep Black in my bag.

For me at least today, I played the black exclusively. All around the black was very close to the current Pro V1, but it didn't seem to stop as fast the Pro V1 with the short irons (not a huge difference at all,but was slightly surprised when struck well it didn't grab, maybe it's where it landed on the green, or maybe it just doesn't spin enough for my game, but definitely not giving it up, just need more time). When I initially tried it out the greens weren't cut and it stopped the same as Pro V1 (but I haven't played the Pro V1 since they finally cut the greens). Initially I wasn't a fan of the Red, but after today definitely looking forward to trying the Red again, as well as a head to head with the Black and Pro V1.

Regardless they are good, but maybe I just need change where I land it a touch (basically just learn the constant characteristics of each ball)

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 02:53 PM

I was finally able to play my first round of the season. The course was pretty wet as it rained pretty much all day yesterday and this morning. The course was pretty empty so I was able to play both the black and red on most holes. I was also using new irons and wedges so more testing will definitely have to be done.

I was more consistent with the black off the tee. It seemed like I was able to control my fade more. Neither ball rolled out more than 2 or 3 yards when hitting long irons into the green but it was damp so that likely had some effect. It seemed like the reds checked up a little bit more on chips. If I had to choose today I'd go with the black but I'd be happy playing either. I'll definitely be testing both out more.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 03:53 PM

Finally got out today with the Red and Black for short game work. For me, the Red was the clear winner. Excellent feel and great control. Spin was effortless and I was able to easily flight some down into the wind. Not exactly an easy feat for me. The Black was good in the wind as well, but it just didn't stop like the Red. I feel like I would have to adjust my shots to fit the Black, rather than the other way around.

I can't see a ball that cost $10-15 more a dozen being any better than the MTB Red in the short game.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:08 PM

View PostKonklifer, on 28 April 2018 - 03:53 PM, said:

Finally got out today with the Red and Black for short game work. For me, the Red was the clear winner. Excellent feel and great control. Spin was effortless and I was able to easily flight some down into the wind. Not exactly an easy feat for me. The Black was good in the wind as well, but it just didn't stop like the Red. I feel like I would have to adjust my shots to fit the Black, rather than the other way around.

I can't see a ball that cost $10-15 more a dozen being any better than the MTB Red in the short game.

Does the Red feel mushy mid firm or firm?

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:15 PM

The Red is starting to take the top spot purely on superstition. Shot -1 on the front today with the Red (and missed a 6” rake-in putt). Switched to Black at the turn and birdied 10. Went +6 the remaining 7 holes.

Reality is it had nothing to do with the ball or ball change. Both are fantastic. The differences are very subtle. But, when I start to see low scores with a particular ball, however, it starts to get hard to play anything else. The Red is rapidly becoming that ball.

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Posted 28 April 2018 - 05:26 PM

View PostTanner25, on 28 April 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

View PostKonklifer, on 28 April 2018 - 03:53 PM, said:

Finally got out today with the Red and Black for short game work. For me, the Red was the clear winner. Excellent feel and great control. Spin was effortless and I was able to easily flight some down into the wind. Not exactly an easy feat for me. The Black was good in the wind as well, but it just didn't stop like the Red. I feel like I would have to adjust my shots to fit the Black, rather than the other way around.

I can't see a ball that cost $10-15 more a dozen being any better than the MTB Red in the short game.

Does the Red feel mushy mid firm or firm?

Definitely not mushy. Everybody has a different opinion of what is considered firm or mid firm so there is no way to answer your question.
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Posted 28 April 2018 - 06:15 PM

I don't know why but black just feels better. Red is meh. Prov1 feels ok but doesn't stick to driver face as black does. It's my preference. But man, I have to get more blacks

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 07:42 AM

View PostTanner25, on 28 April 2018 - 05:08 PM, said:

View PostKonklifer, on 28 April 2018 - 03:53 PM, said:

Finally got out today with the Red and Black for short game work. For me, the Red was the clear winner. Excellent feel and great control. Spin was effortless and I was able to easily flight some down into the wind. Not exactly an easy feat for me. The Black was good in the wind as well, but it just didn't stop like the Red. I feel like I would have to adjust my shots to fit the Black, rather than the other way around.

I can't see a ball that cost $10-15 more a dozen being any better than the MTB Red in the short game.

Does the Red feel mushy mid firm or firm?

Definitely not mushy, not firm. For me, the feel was excellent.
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Posted 29 April 2018 - 02:24 PM

I am still testing and comparing the two. The Black feels like a softer version of the original. The Red feels different, a touch clicky like the compression is the same but the cover is a little harder. I have found the Red to bite harder on chips and pitches.

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Posted 29 April 2018 - 02:43 PM

4 rounds played this weekend with Reds.
A rainy day with a wet course, then a beautiful day, then a windy day.
Two different courses, different greens.

All in all, the Reds continue to impress.  No regrets settling on the Reds.  I will say that some days it seems like the ball always stops dead in its tracks, other days - minimal rollout...surely due to the course conditions and my swing.  Bottom line = very predictable / controllable, really great putting ball - made some serious bombs.

I had some of my longest drives and fairway woods shots in a long time - the ball is no slouch in any department.

My brother who is a long time ProV1 player is getting tired of the $50 per dozen thing, tried some Reds and Blacks.  He really loved both balls, preferred Red...but will test some more.

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Posted 30 April 2018 - 09:27 AM

View Postmonkeyboy, on 29 April 2018 - 02:43 PM, said:

4 rounds played this weekend with Reds.
A rainy day with a wet course, then a beautiful day, then a windy day.
Two different courses, different greens.

All in all, the Reds continue to impress.  No regrets settling on the Reds.  I will say that some days it seems like the ball always stops dead in its tracks, other days - minimal rollout...surely due to the course conditions and my swing.  Bottom line = very predictable / controllable, really great putting ball - made some serious bombs.

I had some of my longest drives and fairway woods shots in a long time - the ball is no slouch in any department.

My brother who is a long time ProV1 player is getting tired of the $50 per dozen thing, tried some Reds and Blacks.  He really loved both balls, preferred Red...but will test some more.

Funny side commentary = my other brothers were like "what the hell kind of ball is that"?  After a round or two, they were impressed.
We played some scrambles and took some crazy shots - we started yelling at the ball to carry when we were trying to hit bomber drives "SCHNELL...SCHNELL"
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Posted 01 May 2018 - 10:37 AM

I've been playing the original MTB's all season so far and I love the ball. It's definitely as good as anything on the premium market and for me, better in the wind for sure.
I still need to get through a dozen and a half before I move to this years versions for testing.

Last weekend I played on some really fast firm greens and like others say, it just basically stops where I hit it. No radical backspin on full wedges. Just needed some more action on the mid to longer irons.
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Posted 01 May 2018 - 05:25 PM

Finally had a chance to play the Reds today.

Calm conditions and firm greens.

The ball feels firmer than the Black and the cover looks “cheaper”. I typically play a soft ball and like the feeling of compressing the ball, especially off the driver.

Once again as with the Black, I was hitting high “bombs” with my driver. I’m usually around the 240-250 range and today I hit a few in 275 range. The Red seemed a little straighter off the driver than the Black and it held its line well.

On approach shots the Red was typically a couple feet in front of its ball mark, so it seemed to spin more off my irons into some really firm greens.

On pitches it felt hotter off wedges and rolled out quit a bit. That may have just been due to the firm greens.

Since I normally play a softer ball, the Red felt a little harder coming off my putter and it seemed like I needed to putt it firmer to get it to the hole than the Black.

I also hit the Black today on a few holes with my driver to see if there was any major difference in distance. Both balls seemed about the same as far as distance off the driver.

Since I prefer a softer cover and feel, the Black maybe my ball of choice. But it’s not a knock on the Red, just what I prefer in feel.

So while I will continue to test both (have two dozen of each), I benibe im leaning towards the Black, but I don’t know yet. What I do know is that Snell will be my new ball going forward.

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Posted 02 May 2018 - 06:48 AM

Your review has helped me in my choice. I want more spin around the greens, but prefer a softer feel, so sounds like Black should be my choice?!
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 07:03 AM

View PostGolf64, on 02 May 2018 - 06:48 AM, said:

Your review has helped me in my choice. I want more spin around the greens, but prefer a softer feel, so sounds like Black should be my choice?!

The greens I played yesterday were really firm. The just had their club championship and we haven’t had much rain. So it was hard to judge just how the Red spun off pitch shots. I can say that on approach shots the Red spun back on full wedge shots and the Black stopped right near its ball mark.

Tomorrow I’m going to play a different course with the Red. It’s the same course I played for my Black review.

I don’t want to pick a ball after just one round with each ball, but I’m leaning towards to Black for the feel off the driver and putter.


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Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:05 AM

Agree on your cover thoughts (white vs white only).  The Black has a truly premium look/feel that just looks great coming out of the box.  Red has a TPU cover so looks different, but the true beauty of the Red is the yellow option. Really vibrant and looks awesome on ground, in air, and on the green.

Will look forward to hear your thoughts as you amass more rounds with the two. I particularly love putting with the Red.
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 08:53 AM

MTB Red's particular shade of yellow is just about perfect for maximum visibility. Makes some of the other yellow balls seem a bit washed out in the direct sun.
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 11:34 AM

View PostNorth Butte, on 02 May 2018 - 08:53 AM, said:

MTB Red's particular shade of yellow is just about perfect for maximum visibility. Makes some of the other yellow balls seem a bit washed out in the direct sun.

NB, as AVX lover, which MTB would you play normally and why?
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 11:38 AM

I have only ever played a few holes with a MTB Red (yellow) so can't really say about the MTB Black. Still got a couple more of the Red so I'll give it a better trial first opportunity.

Sorry not to have anything to report!

P.S. I do have a fairly strong preference for yellow balls so I'd certainly HOPE the MTB Red works better for me ;-)
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 07:30 PM

Would it be possible the Red is less spinny off the driver than the Black?

Edited by aquapig, 02 May 2018 - 07:31 PM.


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