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Counterfeit Graphite Design Tour AD DI Series


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#1 Tzoid

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 08:45 PM

I recently purchased a used Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6S shaft and it played ridiculously weak so I had it checked out and it was measured at 248 CPM. I contacted
Pro's Choice Golf Shafts and Bill McPherson provided me the attached photos to identify the fake shafts.  Be sure to verify you are buying the genuine article.  The DI6-S is 265 cpm at 46” with a 201g head weight.  
and they are all serialized.  The counterfeit shaft I bought had no serial number.  

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:20 PM

The older DI shafts do not have the etched serial or AD logo like you have pictured in the first photo.  The overlap and holograms in the white heat label are the best indicators of being genuine in the older DI shafts.

Edited by goondawg , 13 December 2014 - 09:26 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:41 PM

Was just talking to joey2aces about my ad di.. The only difference is mine plays very stiff. Here are some photos of it, if anyone can tell if legit or not please let me know.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:47 PM

Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

View Postartica, on 13 December 2014 - 09:47 PM, said:

Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

Both look good.  Do you see the line running down the middle of the white section through where it says "Tour AD DI-6"?  It looks like it is there in your second pic.  That is where the label overlaps.  The fakes don't have that.  The white part is not painted.  Its just a heat label

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 10:25 PM

Phew... Thanks guys.
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Posted 13 December 2014 - 10:34 PM

The price that these shafts demand it pays to check before you buy.  I lucked out and the seller refunded my money so I'm good.

Edited by Tzoid, 13 December 2014 - 10:35 PM.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 10:38 PM

op, the comparison pic that you posted with "real shaft" looks fake to me.  the ACCURACY & DISTANCE look way too big.  if you look at the pics posted by artica, which looks exactly like mine and i know are legit, the ACCURACY & DISTANCE is a little smaller with more orange space above and below.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 10:52 PM

View Postgolfer75, on 13 December 2014 - 10:38 PM, said:

op, the comparison pic that you posted with "real shaft" looks fake to me.  the ACCURACY & DISTANCE look way too big.  if you look at the pics posted by artica, which looks exactly like mine and i know are legit, the ACCURACY & DISTANCE is a little smaller with more orange space above and below.

I actually agree with this.

Unless there is possibly different versions out there, it looks like the "real" and "fake" labels are backwards.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 10:54 PM

The photos I posted came from Bill McPherson at Pro's Choice Golf Shafts the North American distributor for Graphite Design.  He sent the photos to me to
help me identify if my shaft was a counterfeit.  I'm just passing along the information so others don't get dupped.

I see what you're saying but I posted the photo he sent me.  I think the key is the serial #  

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Edited by Tzoid, 13 December 2014 - 10:57 PM.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 11:02 PM

 Tzoid, on 13 December 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

I think the key is the serial #  


If they all had serial numbers you would be right but they don't

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 11:07 PM

 Tzoid, on 13 December 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

The photos I posted came from Bill McPherson at Pro's Choice Golf Shafts the North American distributor for Graphite Design.  He sent the photos to me to
help me identify if my shaft was a counterfeit.  I'm just passing along the information so others don't get dupped.

I see what you're saying but I posted the photo he sent me.  I think the key is the serial #  

http://www.proschoicegolfshafts.com/
yeah, i think he probably just mixed them up...because if you look at the tour ad di pic on the site it is exactly like i stated.  anyways it good news that you were able to get a refund.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 11:30 PM

 artica, on 13 December 2014 - 09:47 PM, said:

Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

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I'd be upset with whomever is responsible for those razor blade gouges from grip changing!

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 11:34 PM

 prorobo, on 13 December 2014 - 11:30 PM, said:

 artica, on 13 December 2014 - 09:47 PM, said:

Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

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I'd be upset with whomever is responsible for those razor blade gouges from grip changing!

I was. I am. Unfortunately that's the business of buying used.

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 08:06 AM

 artica, on 13 December 2014 - 11:34 PM, said:

 prorobo, on 13 December 2014 - 11:30 PM, said:

 artica, on 13 December 2014 - 09:47 PM, said:

Here is a different shaft bought from same place though, where grip is on the other this one has a serial #.

ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1418525263.754474.jpg

I'd be upset with whomever is responsible for those razor blade gouges from grip changing!

I was. I am. Unfortunately that's the business of buying used.

It looks like it will be easily covered by the grip and not into the orange base coat.  You won't be able to see it and won't harm the shaft.  Don't really see an issue

Edited by goondawg , 14 December 2014 - 08:09 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2014 - 02:14 PM

If you suspect that your shaft is counterfeit use the visual indicators and have the shaft frequency checked. My shaft was 248cpm and GD claims the AD DI 6S should be 265cpm.   Huge difference.  
The risk we take buying used this day and age opens us up to counterfeits.  Golf Pride grips are all over ebay as well so BEWARE.
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Posted 15 December 2014 - 12:04 AM

I just won a used ad - mt with a sldr tip installed on eBay today. I put a max bid of $120 on it and never thought I would get it. Turns out I did. Do they have the same tell tale signs of being fake as the addi and adbbs?  Haven't heard much of this one having fakes b
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Posted 15 December 2014 - 08:46 AM

Yes, the MT will have the etched serial And the overlap label line in the white section. There are fake MT shafts out there but the graphics are horrible.  You will know immediately. In the ringed section the real MT has a greyish color that fades to the shaft color.  The fakes have a much darker grey that doesn't fade.   It is very obvious.  The fake MTs also do not have the hologram Tour AD in the white section nor a line running down it where the label overlaps.

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Posted 16 December 2014 - 06:40 PM

There are fake MT's out there. Mine looked good, even had an etched serial. I could tell mine was fake due to the weight, weighed 76 grams uncut, which was about 12 grams too heavy for a new MT. Weigh your shaft without a grip, weigh a tip, figure out total weight, see if yours makes sense.

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Posted 18 December 2014 - 04:54 AM

The fake DI's I've seen also do not have the 'made in japan - S for shaft' under the grip and all Tour AD shafts I've seen have a printed designation on the butt end after where the paint stops.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 07:42 AM

Just bought this shaft on ebay. Do you think it is real?

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:25 AM

Need a closer pic of the white section. If you can see the line running down the white section and the holograms in it you're good.  The white section is not paint but a heat wrap label and the line is where it overlaps. The chinese fakes don't have this.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:28 AM

 goondawg, on 08 February 2015 - 08:25 AM, said:

Need a closer pic of the white section. If you can see the line running down the white section and the holograms in it you're good.  The white section is not paint but a heat wrap label and the line is where it overlaps. The chinese fakes don't have this.

Only have this picture from the auction right now. Will have to wait until it arrives and post pictures then.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:44 AM

 smart.nx, on 08 February 2015 - 07:42 AM, said:

Just bought this shaft on ebay. Do you think it is real?

Unfortunately no, not the best picture but you can clearly see that the DI-6s is too low in relation to the AD and there is no ghosting. Here's a real DI for reference

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:52 AM

I contacted the seller and asked for better pictures and a serial number. But i'm also afraid now that it's a fake. Ebay will handle it then. Luckily I paid with PayPal so my money is safe.

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 12:08 PM

It getting stranger. Got a new photo from the seller. The serialnumber makes no sense and it says regular?!

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 12:18 PM

 smart.nx, on 08 February 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

It getting stranger. Got a new photo from the seller. The serialnumber makes no sense and it says regular?!

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Posted 08 February 2015 - 01:02 PM

 smart.nx, on 08 February 2015 - 07:42 AM, said:

Just bought this shaft on ebay. Do you think it is real?

Looks fake to me...I have 8 of these shafts, and the dead giveaway of that one is the lines on the font, and no holograms. Good luck
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Posted 08 February 2015 - 01:15 PM

 smart.nx, on 08 February 2015 - 12:08 PM, said:

It getting stranger. Got a new photo from the seller. The serialnumber makes no sense and it says regular?!

That is definitely not a GD AD- DI Shaft.... the serial # is laser etched in the shaft and the Holographic circle should be on the shaft.

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