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#1 PatchGolfer

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 09:54 AM

Just wanted to put it out there but Tiger has always does this and it's nothing new...Ben Hogan did it and 99% of players do it...including #1 right now...In my eyes it's a non issue...why does everybody else think it's a big deal?



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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:00 AM

I think its a big deal because often commentators mention it, and then the golfing general public latch on too it and repeat it ad nauseum, to try and sound knowledgeable...
So in other words its probably not a big deal!

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:13 AM

That's not the same head drop. He has way more hip flexion on the right and adds more with the head drop. His whole body used to lower which is much easier to deal with.

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 10:51 AM

Two different kinds of drop and it is an issue.  One is increased secondary tilt, the other is over squatting in transition.

His hips and left knee action can no longer compensate.
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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:07 AM

Here is a conversation I had with chamblee yesterday on the Facebook.

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:07 AM

In light of the two comments above... I retract my 'it's not a big deal stance....'

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 11:11 AM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 05 December 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

Two different kinds of drop and it is an issue.  One is increased secondary tilt, the other is over squatting in transition.

His hips and left knee action can no longer compensate.

So your saying just after the PGA Tiger goes in for repair on one or the other? ;)

Edited by PatchGolfer, 05 December 2014 - 11:12 AM.


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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:29 AM

View PostPatchGolfer, on 05 December 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

Just wanted to put it out there but Tiger has always does this and it's nothing new...Ben Hogan did it and 99% of players do it...including #1 right now...In my eyes it's a non issue...why does everybody else think it's a big deal?


Its not really about the head dropping as its a kinetic chain order going wrong.
Chris Como most likely will make him have another compensation fix for it.
so he be able to play with it but not really fixing it.
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Posted 06 December 2014 - 06:17 PM

View PostRBImGuy, on 06 December 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:

View PostPatchGolfer, on 05 December 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

Just wanted to put it out there but Tiger has always does this and it's nothing new...Ben Hogan did it and 99% of players do it...including #1 right now...In my eyes it's a non issue...why does everybody else think it's a big deal?


Its not really about the head dropping as its a kinetic chain order going wrong.
Chris Como most likely will make him have another compensation fix for it.
so he be able to play with it but not really fixing it.

Rdimguy are you a golf instructor or a mike austin swing knock off guru ? I ask this because I can't find you on Wikipedia in the Mike Austin page however I can see DJ baby cut 230 6 iron Watts is mentioned . You might want to employ a PR person and slide your name in on that page

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 06:46 PM

View PostFort Worth Pro, on 05 December 2014 - 11:07 AM, said:

Here is a conversation I had with chamblee yesterday on the Facebook.

What is Chamblee even saying with regards to the lean ? Too much presently or what?

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 06:50 PM

I too see it as a bit of a kinetic issue.  

the more tight, tense, and quick he gets the shorter and shorter his backswing gets... he doesn't give himself that time needed to really get tall and extend... instead he begins his downswing firing sequence really quickly so there is incongruent excessive separation  with his shoulders still completing the backhalf and his pelvis already rotating towards target and getting lower..... So by the time he gets to his new "top" he is much shorter than he used to be... thus his aggressive lowering on the downswing suddenly becomes an issue and then he has to lean the hell out of that shaft and stand up in order to not bury it in the ground.

I dont hate his vision now, but id still like to see him slow everything down and find a way where his pelvis, torso, shoulders, arms, and clubhead all complete the backswing around the same time.  I think his old drill with butch where he stops at the top for a few seconds then ease one out there would be good for him and his back.

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 07:44 PM

View Postpinhigh27, on 06 December 2014 - 06:46 PM, said:

View PostFort Worth Pro, on 05 December 2014 - 11:07 AM, said:

Here is a conversation I had with chamblee yesterday on the Facebook.

What is Chamblee even saying with regards to the lean ? Too much presently or what?

Chamblee is an idiot and also I like how people say "all great players" dipped and say it's the same thing as Tiger does......

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 09:17 PM

Tiger needed to drop his head.......especially after getting chased with a 3 iron!   :pimp:  The last thing he needs is to keep it up!  Sorry....I crack myself up...... :cheesy:

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Posted 06 December 2014 - 09:29 PM

its a good thing to drop some. He was doing it excessively. Just reduce it a little bit.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 12:06 AM

Two greats had a level height head through whole swing to impact. Nicklaus and Greg Norman.


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 03:49 AM

View PostPinsplitter59, on 07 December 2014 - 12:06 AM, said:

Two greats had a level height head through whole swing to impact. Nicklaus and Greg Norman.
I don't remember Palmer having any kind of dip through impact.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 08:40 AM

They weren't "level" throughout the swing and usually through impact your working your way up not down. Nicklaus didn't drop much but he moved up and then back to his level. Norman dropped some (not a lot). Palmer went down a pretty good amount.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 09:35 AM

This might be an ignorant question (please forgive me), but if you want to hit the ball with maximum leverage (bent right wrist and elbow), don't you have to get a little closer to the ball? I'm not talking about falling out of the sky by two feet, but shouldn't you dip down a bit?

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 09:57 AM

All the head drop speculation is stupid IMO.

Hogan had a huge head drop, but it all revolves around two points:

(1) Unless  you are a Stack And Tilt player, you must load into your right leg on the backswing. To load the right leg you must flex the knee.

(2) If you address the ball with a lot of right leg flex preset, your head will remain fairly level on the downswing. If you address the ball standing more upright, with little flex in the right knee, you must drop down at the top of the backswing to load the knee.

The flex in the right knee is carried toward impact, until you straighten the knee to generate power.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 10:19 AM

View PostRBImGuy, on 06 December 2014 - 07:29 AM, said:

View PostPatchGolfer, on 05 December 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

Just wanted to put it out there but Tiger has always does this and it's nothing new...Ben Hogan did it and 99% of players do it...including #1 right now...In my eyes it's a non issue...why does everybody else think it's a big deal?


Its not really about the head dropping as its a kinetic chain order going wrong.
Chris Como most likely will make him have another compensation fix for it.
so he be able to play with it but not really fixing it.

If he slid his back foot a bit he would be hitting his PW 180+


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 12:00 PM

View PostTexsport, on 07 December 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

All the head drop speculation is stupid IMO.

Hogan had a huge head drop, but it all revolves around two points:

(1) Unless  you are a Stack And Tilt player, you must load into your right leg on the backswing. To load the right leg you must flex the knee.

(2) If you address the ball with a lot of right leg flex preset, your head will remain fairly level on the downswing. If you address the ball standing more upright, with little flex in the right knee, you must drop down at the top of the backswing to load the knee.

The flex in the right knee is carried toward impact, until you straighten the knee to generate power.

Everyone has different timing and the most comfortable, repeatable way of generating power, while making solid contact with the ball.

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so everyone is either S&T or loads the right leg? hm
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Posted 07 December 2014 - 12:38 PM

View PostTexsport, on 07 December 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

All the head drop speculation is stupid IMO.

Hogan had a huge head drop, but it all revolves around two points:

(1) Unless  you are a Stack And Tilt player, you must load into your right leg on the backswing. To load the right leg you must flex the knee.

(2) If you address the ball with a lot of right leg flex preset, your head will remain fairly level on the downswing. If you address the ball standing more upright, with little flex in the right knee, you must drop down at the top of the backswing to load the knee.

The flex in the right knee is carried toward impact, until you straighten the knee to generate power.

Everyone has different timing and the most comfortable, repeatable way of generating power, while making solid contact with the ball.

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^what did I just read....?

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 04:36 PM

I heard that he's so focused that his head gets smaller during his backswing.

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 06:27 PM

Is there a coincidence that some of the greatest shots that tigers hit in his career are from fairway bunkers and he's tried to keep the head dip down to a minimum

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 06:38 PM

You guys are focused on the full swing when it is the short game and putting that needs work. He was always inconsistent off the tee for all but like 2 years of his career.

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 12:43 AM

View PostFinbarr Saunders, on 07 December 2014 - 06:27 PM, said:

Is there a coincidence that some of the greatest shots that tigers hit in his career are from fairway bunkers and he's tried to keep the head dip down to a minimum

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 12:46 AM

View PostMadGolfer76, on 07 December 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

You guys are focused on the full swing when it is the short game and putting that needs work. He was always inconsistent off the tee for all but like 2 years of his career.

This has been my point for going on 5 years.  He spends so much time searching for a specific swing pattern, he doesn't Practice short game as much.

I said this the other day.  I made that comment right after he started  with Foley.  I said the pattern would take so much practice he wouldnt practice  his short game as often and it would suffer.

I got shallacked.  Less than a week later he was on espn and said his short game was off because he had relegated so much time to his swing that the short game was neglected.  That is a recurring theme, IMO.

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 09:40 AM

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Is there a coincidence that some of the greatest shots that tigers hit in his career are from fairway bunkers and he's tried to keep the head dip down to a minimum
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Posted 08 December 2014 - 12:26 PM

In the latest Golf Digest, there is an article comparing Tiger and Rory at the same age.  In the article, the author states that as a junior, Tiger spent the bulk of his practice time around and on the green.  The amount of changes Tiger has made in his full swing has cut down on the amount of time he has to spend on the short game.  And, surgery or not, I doubt that his back will allow him to spend hours crouched over a putter.

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Posted 08 December 2014 - 05:49 PM

View PostMonteScheinblum, on 08 December 2014 - 12:46 AM, said:

View PostMadGolfer76, on 07 December 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

You guys are focused on the full swing when it is the short game and putting that needs work. He was always inconsistent off the tee for all but like 2 years of his career.

This has been my point for going on 5 years.  He spends so much time searching for a specific swing pattern, he doesn't Practice short game as much.

I said this the other day.  I made that comment right after he started  with Foley.  I said the pattern would take so much practice he wouldnt practice  his short game as often and it would suffer.

I got shallacked.  Less than a week later he was on espn and said his short game was off because he had relegated so much time to his swing that the short game was neglected.  That is a recurring theme, IMO.

I just think it is funny how all the attention is focused on this one area. Perhaps there are a lot of younger golfers who don't remember how wild he was/is off the tee even 15 years ago. TW described his tee game as "army golf" even at his peak. He definitely seemed to have fewer big misses back then, but in terms of putting it in play he was all over the place. All the "hero shots" he is known for ignore the fact that he was in trouble to begin with in terms of the shot that came just before. The shot at the Canadian Open - he was in a freakin' bunker with a 200 yard carry over water. That tee shot was a mistake. No one sets himself up for something like that on purpose.

I am far from being a fan of TW, but he could always play when he was scraping it around off the tee. It was really the start of bomb and gouge; an advantage was his length, but it is no longer exceptional what with so many players out there. There are plenty of mediocre gougers out on tour, and now he is one of them. The only area that could still set him apart is the short game, which was better than anyone else's, and now he doesn't practice that enough. There is some ego in play here, in terms of the distance/swing focus, and he is hanging himself on it. He could be winning with better putting and chipping, instead of finishing last in a limited tour event that he hosts himself, making excuses that he wasn't feeling well and had a fever.

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