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Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:33 AM

Slant neck backstryke with versa paint and Microhinge face. Add some hot melt and post the Trackman numbers please. 😎


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Posted 07 June 2017 - 10:07 AM

 FAbb, on 07 June 2017 - 07:02 AM, said:

Which golf ball is giving the XV a run for its money?

TM TP5/X

 Jonesy, on 07 June 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

Are the new Cleveland Milled putters getting tested at all? I had a 4.5 in the original milled series and man that was a great putter! Felt great and was a fraction of the cost of other putters... so naturally I sold it in the search of something better... These new ones look great and probably feel even better with the deeper milling.


Cleveland makes a really nice putter for under a $100.  Used to play a T Frame and loved it although sound wasn't the best.  As for the deep milled putters I don't like them as much.  Putts come off a little hot for me and I don't get the feedback I'm used to.

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Slant neck backstryke with versa paint and Microhinge face. Add some hot melt and post the Trackman numbers please. 😎

You forgot sight line ;)
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Posted 07 June 2017 - 10:25 AM

I second J13's golf ball assessment.  I thought nothing would beat Bridgestone but outdoor Trackman sessions for testing shows TM slightly outperforming Bridgestone.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:20 AM

Ball Test update

TP5X vs TP5 vs Zstar XV

Don't want to get into a long drawn out explanation but after testing on course I'll be sticking with the Srixon Zstar XV.  TM did a great job with the new ball but in the end I wasn't convinced it was right for me.  I found the TP5X inconsistent distance wise and I had a harder time fighting it down on wedge shots which is an immediate no go.  The Tp5 on the other hand is great off the wedges and short irons but felt it got a little spinny on the driver.  I bet most PGA Tour guys are playing a ball that sits closer to the Tp5 then Tp5x especially with the firm greens.  Anyway,  what I like about the XV is it gives me low spin off the driver but gives me the ability to flight my wedges down and get just enough spin to check up.  I'm not completely done with the TP5 due to the feel and how great it performed with my wedges so we'll see.  I plan on doing a little more testing and if something changes I'll be sure to update.

If you take a look at the last two pics it sums up the 3 balls.  These were 3 wedge shots from 112yds using a 50* wedge 3/4 shot that I want to keep low and hop 3 times and check.  The ball closest to the pin on the right is the TP5 (yeah it's good), the ball on the green about 6ft past the pin in the XV, and the ball that skipped off the green is the TP5X (no Bueno).  This is what I saw all day and pretty much sums it up.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM

You done any testing with the regular Z-Star? I like both the regular and the XV, having trouble figuring out which one actually performs better for me.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM

I've tested a few balls recently including the TP5, TP5X, Pro-V1X, and Chrome Soft X but none of these could supplant the XV for my game.

My results were very similar to yours. I'll probably keep some Chrome Softs around for the cooler months.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:48 AM

 coreyl, on 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

You done any testing with the regular Z-Star? I like both the regular and the XV, having trouble figuring out which one actually performs better for me.

I haven't tried the regular Zstar.  I have to say if I can lower my spin with the driver I might be moving to a higher spinning ball.  Another noticeable difference between the TP5X and TP5 is ball flight. THe Tp5X just wants to go high and knuckle, IMO they focused too much on maximizing distance and not enough on distance control..

 Hot Rod 71, on 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

I've tested a few balls recently including the TP5, TP5X, Pro-V1X, and Chrome Soft X but none of these could supplant the XV for my game.

My results were very similar to yours. I'll probably keep some Chrome Softs around for the cooler months.

Chrome Soft X is a great offering

Edited by J13, 11 June 2017 - 11:49 AM.

Callaway Epic GBB 9* (playing 8*) w/ Xphlexxx Agera) : 45.25" SW D4
Callaway Epic SZ 13.5 w/ Veylix Rome 888: 42.75" SW D3.5
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:10 PM

 J13, on 11 June 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

 coreyl, on 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

You done any testing with the regular Z-Star? I like both the regular and the XV, having trouble figuring out which one actually performs better for me.

I haven't tried the regular Zstar.  I have to say if I can lower my spin with the driver I might be moving to a higher spinning ball.  Another noticeable difference between the TP5X and TP5 is ball flight. THe Tp5X just wants to go high and knuckle, IMO they focused too much on maximizing distance and not enough on distance control..

 Hot Rod 71, on 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

I've tested a few balls recently including the TP5, TP5X, Pro-V1X, and Chrome Soft X but none of these could supplant the XV for my game.

My results were very similar to yours. I'll probably keep some Chrome Softs around for the cooler months.

Chrome Soft X is a great offering

CSX is really good too. I seem to be bouncing back and forth between CSX, Z-star and XV. I think the regular Z-star will probably be the one that wins out for me, but I would be happy playing any of the 3.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 08:04 PM

Corey I agree the Chrome soft X is a good ball but I got the XV's before they came out and have no reason to change unless something really stands out.  I thought the TP5X had potential but it turns out the TP5 is the better ball.  At some point in the next month or so I'll give the CSX another whirl.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:36 PM

I've been playing back and forth between the TP5X and the Z star XV. I've played through a box of each and I'm convinced both are better than the proV's. I like the feel of the Taylormade but the XV has more consistent iron distance, the right amount of wedge spin, and feels better in the wind.

I went in to the test wanting to like the Taylormade better but it's undeniable that XV is better for my game.

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:40 PM

 TheKrushh, on 11 June 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

I've been playing back and forth between the TP5X and the Z star XV. I've played through a box of each and I'm convinced both are better than the proV's. I like the feel of the Taylormade but the XV has more consistent iron distance, the right amount of wedge spin, and feels better in the wind.

I went in to the test wanting to like the Taylormade better but it's undeniable that XV is better for my game.

Good luck with the rest of your testing!

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 08:49 AM

Bridgestone?  Nobody playing?

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 08:53 AM

 EntourageLife, on 12 June 2017 - 08:49 AM, said:

Bridgestone?  Nobody playing?

I don't like the dimple in dimple look.  Petty i know.
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:47 PM

Perfectly said about the balls J..!   I just keep giving the TP5 chances.  I want it to be my gamer when in competition but just not sure yet.  The Feel is great to me.   Please email Tmag and tell them we want the TP5X that the tour guys are playing bc we know that are not playing the X they sell in the stores.  ;)

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:55 PM

using the tp5x currently - yet have had good success with ALL of the b330s dimples....  ;)

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 02:02 PM

how is the xv in the wind?  the tp5x isn't the RZN BLACK TOUR - which i felt was amazing, but i am more and more surprised to how good it is holding or flying right through crosswinds.
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 02:04 PM

 swanry30, on 12 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

using the tp5x currently - yet have had good success with ALL of the b330s dimples....  ;)

TP5X off the driver is great for me but my course is really firm and fast now (usually June -Sept) and I'm having a real hard time flighting down and get it to stop on 3/4 wedge shots.  TP5 on the other hand checks up really well and I can flight it down more easily.  THe Zstar XV is like if TM made a TP5 1/2 :D

XV is the best wind ball i've ever played and i still feel that way after testing the TM balls.  I think the TP's are good in the wind but the XV doesn't move.

Edited by J13, 12 June 2017 - 02:05 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 02:11 PM

 J13, on 12 June 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

 swanry30, on 12 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

using the tp5x currently - yet have had good success with ALL of the b330s dimples....  ;)
XV is the best wind ball i've ever played...
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:45 AM

Okay time to get back to putter testing after that little detour.  Here's what I'm testing and have to say i like what i see although the weight might not work for me.  

Roll is excellent, feel is great, and very easy to line up.  

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Callaway Epic SZ 13.5 w/ Veylix Rome 888: 42.75" SW D3.5
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Srixon 745's 4-PW (Modus Tour 120 TX)
Callaway MD3 50, 54, 60 Modus3 125 wedge shaft
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:06 PM

Great looking putter. Can't wait to hear more about it. Do I spy a "new" GP align grip leaning in the background? ;)

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:32 AM

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 01:20 PM

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 06:32 AM

Very Ketsch'esque.  It's triggering PTSD flashbacks of my short, and awful stint with a Ketsch.  One of the darkest putting times of my golfing life.

Is that thing face balanced?

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 12:02 PM

 FAbb, on 15 June 2017 - 06:32 AM, said:

Very Ketsch'esque.  It's triggering PTSD flashbacks of my short, and awful stint with a Ketsch.  One of the darkest putting times of my golfing life.

Is that thing face balanced?

I tried the Ketsch and HATED it but this is very different. Has toe hang around 10-12*.  Only thing I don't like it the weight and that's because I put on a light grip and it made the head to heavy. Might grab a SS grip with some counter balance.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:33 AM

 Hot Rod 71, on 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

I've tested a few balls recently including the TP5, TP5X, Pro-V1X, and Chrome Soft X but none of these could supplant the XV for my game.

My results were very similar to yours. I'll probably keep some Chrome Softs around for the cooler months.
Had a chance to play last night and rotated cs x and xv and for me the feel was much better on the cally ball.  We had quite a bit of rain the night before and off irons it was I not brainer.  I play mp5 irons.  A tad bit more boring flight with XV and for me even lower than B330.  None feel to me quite as soft as ProV putting wise and off irons.  I also have yet to put the tp5 up against them so that is next for me.  In general I think right now there are more great choices than even a few years back...so if you guys find a deal on a specific tour ball pull the trigger and give it a go!

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:00 PM

 moonshine, on 17 June 2017 - 09:33 AM, said:

 Hot Rod 71, on 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

I've tested a few balls recently including the TP5, TP5X, Pro-V1X, and Chrome Soft X but none of these could supplant the XV for my game.

My results were very similar to yours. I'll probably keep some Chrome Softs around for the cooler months.
Had a chance to play last night and rotated cs x and xv and for me the feel was much better on the cally ball.  We had quite a bit of rain the night before and off irons it was I not brainer.  I play mp5 irons.  A tad bit more boring flight with XV and for me even lower than B330.  None feel to me quite as soft as ProV putting wise and off irons.  I also have yet to put the tp5 up against them so that is next for me.  In general I think right now there are more great choices than even a few years back...so if you guys find a deal on a specific tour ball pull the trigger and give it a go!

Never hurts to try a new ball.  So many good premium balls on the market.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:09 PM

 J13, on 12 June 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

 swanry30, on 12 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

using the tp5x currently - yet have had good success with ALL of the b330s dimples....  ;)

TP5X off the driver is great for me but my course is really firm and fast now (usually June -Sept) and I'm having a real hard time flighting down and get it to stop on 3/4 wedge shots.  TP5 on the other hand checks up really well and I can flight it down more easily.  THe Zstar XV is like if TM made a TP5 1/2 :D

XV is the best wind ball i've ever played and i still feel that way after testing the TM balls.  I think the TP's are good in the wind but the XV doesn't move.

This might be the truest thing I've ever read on the internet. The XV really slots between the 5 and 5X, best of both balls.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 12:16 PM

 coreyl, on 11 June 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

You done any testing with the regular Z-Star? I like both the regular and the XV, having trouble figuring out which one actually performs better for me.

I just went out this am and played 9 holes and hit every shot with the Z star and the Z star XV.  I was with my son and we were waiting on the 4some in front of us, so I had time to test them head to head.  Biggest difference I found was the feel.  If you like a soft feeling ball, the Z star is for you.  The Z star was softer, a little more spin off the driver and irons which resulted in a slightly shorter distance, maybe 3 yards difference with the irons and 8 yard difference with the driver.  The XV is firmer, a little clicky off the putter, and alittle longer as previously described.  When I hit a wedge 130 yards with both balls into the green, there really wasn't much difference and they ended up within a couple of yards of each other.  My assessment was that the are both great golf balls and I could play either happily.  The feel is probably the most significant difference and could lead someone towards one over the other.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:06 PM

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Posted 23 June 2017 - 10:54 PM

Picked up a dozen XV's and so far so good. Been playing with the tp5x and really want to like it but the high flight and low spin in the short irons means i get 3 or so shots a round which I catch the "flyer" characteristics and fly my target by 20 yards.  Not good.

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