Jump to content

Welcome. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest which does not give you access to all the great features at GolfWRX such as viewing all the images, interacting with members, access to all forums and eligiblility to win free giveaways. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free. Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

* - - - - 1 votes

Tour lock pro - adding weight to putter? Anyone done it?


  • Please log in to reply
27 replies to this topic

#1 swingslower

swingslower

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 171 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 336371
  • Joined: 08/26/2014
  • Location:Sweden
  • Handicap:6
GolfWRX Likes : 5

Posted 01 December 2014 - 09:59 AM

Hello guys,

Have anyone added weight to their putter?
I was thinking about buying 150 grams through opti-vibe and put it down the shaft and then another 100 gram as counter weight into the gripsection.

Anyone tried this? Got bored of it and removed it after 1 week? Thats what I'm afraid I will do.. Is it easy to get it correct and do you need the tools they offer?


Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


1

#2 Howard Jones

Howard Jones

    Hall of Fame

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,148 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 100881
  • Joined: 12/27/2009
GolfWRX Likes : 2470

Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923

2

#3 Stuart G.

Stuart G.

    Legend

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,171 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 174728
  • Joined: 04/12/2012
  • Location:New Hampshire
GolfWRX Likes : 4876

Posted 01 December 2014 - 10:58 AM

I use the tour lock pro's in the grip of all my putters and love them.  Took a bunch of trial and error experimentation to find the right amount to add (it was before Howard posted his excellent advice) and for me it turned out to be only about 40 gms.

3

#4 drgolfaholic

drgolfaholic

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,016 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 24493
  • Joined: 01/24/2007
  • Location:Sonoma County
  • Handicap:2.8
GolfWRX Likes : 71

Posted 01 December 2014 - 03:05 PM

View Postswingslower, on 01 December 2014 - 09:59 AM, said:

Hello guys,

Have anyone added weight to their putter?
I was thinking about buying 150 grams through opti-vibe and put it down the shaft and then another 100 gram as counter weight into the gripsection.

Anyone tried this? Got bored of it and removed it after 1 week? Thats what I'm afraid I will do.. Is it easy to get it correct and do you need the tools they offer?

What's your putter specs now, ie head weight and length?

4

#5 L_L

L_L

    Advanced

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 261 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 344209
  • Joined: 10/11/2014
GolfWRX Likes : 133

Posted 01 December 2014 - 03:42 PM

Yes im gonna do it later this week!

I have the Rossa Moden Tour putter head, and ordered a heavy putter shaft from Nippon.

My setup will be, 342 gram head, with 149 gram shaft, Tour Lock 20 gram weight in butt and then 60 gram grip and 33.5'' long putter...

Edited by L_L, 01 December 2014 - 03:42 PM.


5

#6 mckennwa

mckennwa

    Tour Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 501 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 38587
  • Joined: 08/31/2007
  • Location:Indianapolis, IN
  • Handicap:6
  • Ebay ID:bill-rhit
GolfWRX Likes : 52

Posted 01 December 2014 - 03:45 PM

I used a clevis pin I bought from a local hardware store.  It will fit tightly right into the butt end of the shaft.  Cut off as much as you need to get the right weight and then put on a grip.  You can epoxy it in if you really want to.  Works great.

6

#7 nova6868

nova6868

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,817 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 140033
  • Joined: 09/27/2011
  • Location:San Antonio, TX
  • Handicap:3.1
  • Ebay ID:nova6868nova
GolfWRX Likes : 1496

Posted 01 December 2014 - 03:45 PM

I tested several different weights. Most comfortable with grips in the 80-100 range, Tour lock 20-40 grams.

7

#8 swingslower

swingslower

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 171 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 336371
  • Joined: 08/26/2014
  • Location:Sweden
  • Handicap:6
GolfWRX Likes : 5

Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:07 PM

Double.

Edited by swingslower, 01 December 2014 - 04:12 PM.


8

#9 swingslower

swingslower

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 171 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 336371
  • Joined: 08/26/2014
  • Location:Sweden
  • Handicap:6
GolfWRX Likes : 5

Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:11 PM

View Postdrgolfaholic, on 01 December 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

View Postswingslower, on 01 December 2014 - 09:59 AM, said:

Hello guys,

Have anyone added weight to their putter?
I was thinking about buying 150 grams through opti-vibe and put it down the shaft and then another 100 gram as counter weight into the gripsection.

Anyone tried this? Got bored of it and removed it after 1 week? Thats what I'm afraid I will do.. Is it easy to get it correct and do you need the tools they offer?

What's your putter specs now, ie head weight and length?

My head is 370 grams and my shaft is a NS-PRO b2 heavy so around 149 grams? playing at 34" and my grip 72 +- 2 grams. I still don't really feel like I get a good pendulum even when I try different grips / body posture / hand positions

9

#10 swingslower

swingslower

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 171 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 336371
  • Joined: 08/26/2014
  • Location:Sweden
  • Handicap:6
GolfWRX Likes : 5

Posted 01 December 2014 - 04:18 PM

View PostHoward Jones, on 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923

Hello Howard,

I will follow your guide and try my best to get it correct for driver and for my putter as well!

You don't have any guide with some photos perhaps?

Should I put the weight on the Grips end (where often you see iomic, golfpride logo)? And tape it around? Or should I put the weights on top of the grip? And if I want to try putting more weight on the "head" I can put them under the putter and try to even them out there?


Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


10

#11 400yards

400yards

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 242 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 335853
  • Joined: 08/24/2014
GolfWRX Likes : 48

Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:17 PM

View PostHoward Jones, on 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923
I read you post but I am a little confused. You say the putter may move in over the paper, but I thought the paper was under the outer half of the putter?

Edited by 400yards, 01 December 2014 - 05:17 PM.


11

#12 Will Par

Will Par

    Major Winner

  • ClubWRX Charter Members
  • 1,042 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 48373
  • Joined: 02/08/2008
GolfWRX Likes : 354

Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:26 PM

Over the years, I've dinked around with lead tape, counter weights and grips of different weight.  Tried just about everything.  The one thing I've discovered with respect to weight is that after a time, you become accustomed to almost any weight.  The only weight that doesn't work for me is too light.  Other than that, anything with a reasonable "heft" works equally well after I become accustomed to it.  I'm through experimenting with weight.  I'm still experimenting somewhat with shaft length, but I'm done with juggling the weight.
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind. -Bob Dylan
Everything is dust in the wind. -Kansas

12

#13 L_L

L_L

    Advanced

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 261 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 344209
  • Joined: 10/11/2014
GolfWRX Likes : 133

Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:35 PM

View Postnova6868, on 01 December 2014 - 03:45 PM, said:

I tested several different weights. Most comfortable with grips in the 80-100 range, Tour lock 20-40 grams.

Yes I agree! The grip and weight is prefect around this range if the putter head is 340 - 350 - 360. If you gonna go for more weight than this I think your putter head should be close to 400 grams or above.

13

#14 stryper

stryper

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,683 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 25877
  • Joined: 02/22/2007
GolfWRX Likes : 398

Posted 01 December 2014 - 05:47 PM

View PostWill Par, on 01 December 2014 - 05:26 PM, said:

Over the years, I've dinked around with lead tape, counter weights and grips of different weight.  Tried just about everything.  The one thing I've discovered with respect to weight is that after a time, you become accustomed to almost any weight.  The only weight that doesn't work for me is too light.  Other than that, anything with a reasonable "heft" works equally well after I become accustomed to it.  I'm through experimenting with weight.  I'm still experimenting somewhat with shaft length, but I'm done with juggling the weight.

^^^This^^^
Titleist 913D2, w/UST Mamiya Elements Chrome 7F4T
Titleist 915Fd, w/Aldila Rogue Black 80-2.8-S
18* KZG U Iron, w/UST Proforce V2 100-S
Mizuno MX 23's, 4-9i, w/TT Dynalite Gold-R
Titleist Vokey SM5 48-08 F, 52-08 F, 56-10 S
Callaway Sure Out 64
Odyssey Works Tank Versa #7

14

#15 stryper

stryper

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,683 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 25877
  • Joined: 02/22/2007
GolfWRX Likes : 398

Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:02 PM

Also, I have messed around with TLs in the past, although I did not do the Opti-vibe thing.  Regular TL counter weights do need the grip modifier and the correct Allen wrench (3/16th, I think), but if you have a set of those laying around, you'll be fine saving a couple of bucks. Don't know about the Opti-vibe aspect.

Also, another thought...why not just throw a Secret Putter Grip on and see if you like it?   There literally is no magic to counterbalancing; it's simply finding what feels best to you.

Edited by stryper, 01 December 2014 - 09:04 PM.

Titleist 913D2, w/UST Mamiya Elements Chrome 7F4T
Titleist 915Fd, w/Aldila Rogue Black 80-2.8-S
18* KZG U Iron, w/UST Proforce V2 100-S
Mizuno MX 23's, 4-9i, w/TT Dynalite Gold-R
Titleist Vokey SM5 48-08 F, 52-08 F, 56-10 S
Callaway Sure Out 64
Odyssey Works Tank Versa #7

15

#16 400yards

400yards

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 242 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 335853
  • Joined: 08/24/2014
GolfWRX Likes : 48

Posted 01 December 2014 - 06:26 PM

Has anyone had success using the grip modifier on a SuperStroke?

16

#17 drgolfaholic

drgolfaholic

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,016 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 24493
  • Joined: 01/24/2007
  • Location:Sonoma County
  • Handicap:2.8
GolfWRX Likes : 71

Posted 02 December 2014 - 12:58 AM

View Postswingslower, on 01 December 2014 - 04:11 PM, said:

View Postdrgolfaholic, on 01 December 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

View Postswingslower, on 01 December 2014 - 09:59 AM, said:

Hello guys,

Have anyone added weight to their putter?
I was thinking about buying 150 grams through opti-vibe and put it down the shaft and then another 100 gram as counter weight into the gripsection.

Anyone tried this? Got bored of it and removed it after 1 week? Thats what I'm afraid I will do.. Is it easy to get it correct and do you need the tools they offer?

What's your putter specs now, ie head weight and length?

My head is 370 grams and my shaft is a NS-PRO b2 heavy so around 149 grams? playing at 34" and my grip 72 +- 2 grams. I still don't really feel like I get a good pendulum even when I try different grips / body posture / hand positions

Feel is personal but for reference, here's my specs:  Lajosi DD201 34" 350g head with unknown weight stepless True Temper shaft.  Grip is Midsize Iomic 75g.

Initially, I tried 80g Tour Lock Pro and noticed it's a bit top heavy.  I then switched to 60g and found feel to be perfect.  It's been 2 months since my switch.  No plan to go back.

I recommend order 3 weights from 60-100g and experiment.  Good luck.

17

#18 Howard Jones

Howard Jones

    Hall of Fame

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,148 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 100881
  • Joined: 12/27/2009
GolfWRX Likes : 2470

Posted 02 December 2014 - 01:24 AM

View Postswingslower, on 01 December 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

View PostHoward Jones, on 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923

Hello Howard,

I will follow your guide and try my best to get it correct for driver and for my putter as well!

You don't have any guide with some photos perhaps?

Should I put the weight on the Grips end (where often you see iomic, golfpride logo)? And tape it around? Or should I put the weights on top of the grip? And if I want to try putting more weight on the "head" I can put them under the putter and try to even them out there?

Here i DK we have coins with a hole in the middle, so we can use a long tee that goes strait trough all the coins, and into the went hole of the grip. That means that the test CW will be on top of the grip

Ive added a few photos to the putter tune up for better understanding, but feel free to ask any question

What we are trying to achieve is to be able to take the putter out from address without "wobbles" because that makes it VERY difficult to get back to the ball like we should (inconsistency), but thats not all.

Many players do a lot of "funny stuff" they should not like breaking the wrist at impact, but the error actually happen when we return the club from the backstroke. If we dont have enough "resistance" on the grip side, your hands will move forward faster than the club head, so already at this point we can see that the players wrists is in action when they should not.
So, a correct putter balance also eliminates wrist action we dont want, so pay attention to the players wrists when he turns the stroke to forward,and at impact. If there is wrist action present, add more weight grip side.

When the balance for THIS player is found, he will get the feeling that the putter is floating on its own lie angle and that he can move it like he wants to without wobbles, changing path or problems coming from his wrists. This feeling is so amazing you will know when you are there, there is no doubt.

Edited by Howard Jones, 02 December 2014 - 01:29 AM.


18

#19 ws6

ws6

    Pacific Dunes

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,995 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 15560
  • Joined: 06/18/2006
  • Location:Seattle and Oregon
GolfWRX Likes : 390

Posted 02 December 2014 - 10:07 AM

View Post400yards, on 01 December 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Has anyone had success using the grip modifier on a SuperStroke?

A 1/2 spade worked well for me.  

Posted Image

19

#20 bluedot

bluedot

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,671 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 85265
  • Joined: 06/10/2009
  • Handicap:4.4
GolfWRX Likes : 993

Posted 02 December 2014 - 04:01 PM

View Post400yards, on 01 December 2014 - 06:26 PM, said:

Has anyone had success using the grip modifier on a SuperStroke?

I have; works fine.


Remove This Advertisement Viewing As Guest

    GolfWRX Forums

    Advertisement


Wanna get rid of this ugly yellow box? And remove other annoying "stuff" in between posts? Create a FREE GolfWRX account here.

20

#21 Langlands

Langlands

    Major Winner

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,756 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 4012
  • Joined: 07/31/2005
  • Location:Scotland
  • Handicap:7
GolfWRX Likes : 561

Posted 03 December 2014 - 05:50 AM

I have a 40 and 80g Tour Lock Pro counterweight, I have a number of different putters at lengths varying between 35" and 39". The counter weighting feels good, I use an 8mm tile cutting drill bit and Dremel sanding tool to create the hole in the butt end of the putter grip in order to accommodate the weight.

21

#22 GooseHook

GooseHook

    Keep it Fraiche

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,121 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 114119
  • Joined: 09/01/2010
  • Location:Ball-tee-more
GolfWRX Likes : 4118

Posted 03 December 2014 - 09:11 AM

View PostHoward Jones, on 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923

The results may surprise you.  I did the quarters/duct tape method, and my ideal weight turned out to be 40g, not the heavy weights most guys use.  My putting improved almost instantly after that.
M1 2017 10.5°
PING G15 17°, VTS Silver
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21°, Recoil  110

Mizuno JPX 850 Forged, DGX100
Vokey TVD 50-M, 54-K & 58-K
EVNROLL ER2


WITB

22

#23 Howard Jones

Howard Jones

    Hall of Fame

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,148 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 100881
  • Joined: 12/27/2009
GolfWRX Likes : 2470

Posted 03 December 2014 - 09:37 AM

View PostGooseHook, on 03 December 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

View PostHoward Jones, on 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923

The results may surprise you.  I did the quarters/duct tape method, and my ideal weight turned out to be 40g, not the heavy weights most guys use.  My putting improved almost instantly after that.

Most players will find their CW need to be between 40 and 80 grams UP from a standard grip of 60 grams, so if we put them together we talk 100 to 140 grams total, and it does not matter if the weight comes from the grip itself or from a CW insert, and that means we sometimes can solve it all with a new grip who got the weight we seek.

23

#24 GooseHook

GooseHook

    Keep it Fraiche

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,121 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 114119
  • Joined: 09/01/2010
  • Location:Ball-tee-more
GolfWRX Likes : 4118

Posted 03 December 2014 - 10:11 AM

View PostHoward Jones, on 03 December 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:

View PostGooseHook, on 03 December 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

View PostHoward Jones, on 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923

The results may surprise you.  I did the quarters/duct tape method, and my ideal weight turned out to be 40g, not the heavy weights most guys use.  My putting improved almost instantly after that.

Most players will find their CW need to be between 40 and 80 grams UP from a standard grip of 60 grams, so if we put them together we talk 100 to 140 grams total, and it does not matter if the weight comes from the grip itself or from a CW insert, and that means we sometimes can solve it all with a new grip who got the weight we seek.

Yeah the grip selection these days is mind boggling.  The in-butt weights are great for guys who like the skinny traditional pistol grips.
M1 2017 10.5°
PING G15 17°, VTS Silver
Mizuno MP Fli Hi 21°, Recoil  110

Mizuno JPX 850 Forged, DGX100
Vokey TVD 50-M, 54-K & 58-K
EVNROLL ER2


WITB

24

#25 appilags

appilags

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 190 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 60940
  • Joined: 07/20/2008
GolfWRX Likes : 45

Posted 17 December 2014 - 11:04 PM

ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1418875249.718088.jpg ImageUploadedByGolfWRX Mobile1418875280.000142.jpg

I put this Gripmaster Midsize on my Newport and added a 50 gram Opti-vibe under my bottom hand and a 60 gram Tour Lock Pro in the Butt of the grip. Great results so far. I've had it in play for nearly two months.


25

#26 lafojb

lafojb

    Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 69 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 102299
  • Joined: 01/20/2010
GolfWRX Likes : 0

Posted 19 December 2014 - 02:36 AM

I have an Odessy Whte Hot Pro CSM putter extend to 36", it is a 400g head. I have a 100g Opti-Vibe inserted 6 " down the shaft and a Winn 15" puttergrip at 128g. This combo works really great.

26

#27 conted

conted

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 200 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 187522
  • Joined: 06/20/2012
  • Location:Boston, MA
  • Handicap:8
  • Ebay ID:conteatrpi
GolfWRX Likes : 31

Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:36 PM

View PostGooseHook, on 03 December 2014 - 10:11 AM, said:

View PostHoward Jones, on 03 December 2014 - 09:37 AM, said:

View PostGooseHook, on 03 December 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

View PostHoward Jones, on 01 December 2014 - 10:41 AM, said:

You have to find out how much weight YOU should use, so go to this link
http://www.golfwrx.c...g/#entry7871923

The results may surprise you.  I did the quarters/duct tape method, and my ideal weight turned out to be 40g, not the heavy weights most guys use.  My putting improved almost instantly after that.

Most players will find their CW need to be between 40 and 80 grams UP from a standard grip of 60 grams, so if we put them together we talk 100 to 140 grams total, and it does not matter if the weight comes from the grip itself or from a CW insert, and that means we sometimes can solve it all with a new grip who got the weight we seek.

Yeah the grip selection these days is mind boggling.  The in-butt weights are great for guys who like the skinny traditional pistol grips.

I have a Pure Big Dog and Golf Pride SNSR arriving tomorrow just for this purpose, both are 120g. Otherwise, I'll have to figure out how to get 60g tour lock (came with a past BEST purchase) and Garsen MAX installed without a modifier.  

Crazy/Amateur question, anyone ty installing a superstroke/Garsen/other foam putter grip (tape + solvent) right over a Tour Lock or clevis pin? The lip (diameter) of both just too wide?
915D3 9.5* Rogue Silver 60
2i Mizuno MP-H4 w/ s300
3-iron Sirxon z545 w/ s300
4i-Pw Srixon z745 w/ Nippon Modus3 125
Cleveland 588 Rtx 2.0 50* & 54* (Nippon 125 Wedge), 60* (S400)
Putter:  off season testing

27

#28 conted

conted

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 200 posts
  •  
  • Member #: 187522
  • Joined: 06/20/2012
  • Location:Boston, MA
  • Handicap:8
  • Ebay ID:conteatrpi
GolfWRX Likes : 31

Posted 13 October 2017 - 10:11 PM

View Postconted, on 12 October 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:


Crazy/Amateur question, anyone ty installing a superstroke/Garsen/other foam putter grip (tape + solvent) right over a Tour Lock or clevis pin? The lip (diameter) of both just too wide?

Ok, after wondering how everyone said the 1/2" clevis fits flush with the shaft it had me wondering what was I seeing incorrectly. I went back to the hardware store today thinking of having to get a 7/16", but then I noticed that half of the other 1/2" diameter pins had narrower/smaller diameter heads. So, I was able to swap them out. See the pictures for what I was seeing. So I guess, make sure that if you have varying head sizes for the diameter and length pins, you get the ones with smaller heads. The rest of the pins dimensions were identical.
IMG_20171013_181940.jpg
IMG_20171013_181917.jpg
915D3 9.5* Rogue Silver 60
2i Mizuno MP-H4 w/ s300
3-iron Sirxon z545 w/ s300
4i-Pw Srixon z745 w/ Nippon Modus3 125
Cleveland 588 Rtx 2.0 50* & 54* (Nippon 125 Wedge), 60* (S400)
Putter:  off season testing

28



0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

GolfWRX Sponsors