slantsflood, on 16 April 2018 - 08:48 PM, said:
Hey Steve. Had a question regarding Manuels teaching. It's mostly about take away and the start of the swing. He says to swing the clubhead back with both hands over the right shoulder. But in his book I read that the whole club has to move at the same time to create a swinging motion. So in my mind that means that the grip the shaft and the clubhead are all moving at the same time by the use of the hands. To me it feels like when I do that the hands were just holding on and the the arms or swing the club up to the right shoulder. Hope that makes sense. Thanks
Manny was concerned that the club be swung and not moved in another way such as pulled, pushed or levered. Manny defined levering the club as occurring any time when the but of the club moved in the opposite direction from the club head. Hence the teaching that the whole cub moves at the same time in the same direction. No leverage allowed.
When we do this with our hands are arms are involved but not consciously. If your intention is to swing the club heads over the trail shoulder with both hands the arms will move to accommodate.
One of my faults is sometimes I slip into swinging the club back with my arm, not my hands and the result is I'm pulled off the ball rather than coiled over the ball. Poor shots ensue.
As to a true swinging motion, it is easier to feel it than describe it. Manny's method for teaching you to feel what a swinging motion is like was to swing a weight on the end of a string from waist high on one side to waist high on the other. If you're swinging the string remains taught. If you start with leverage the weight stops moving. I, speaking for myself think a training aid sold online as the Whippy Tempo Master. The only way to hit satisfactory shots with that is to swing it and you will soon learn what it means to swing.