Golfchicago
Oct 8 2005, 06:47 AM
Just a short rant. One of my best experiences was growing up with forged irons in he 70s and 80s. Nothing is better than experiencing a round with old classic forged blades. It is an experience I won't forget and granted the new technology today allows me to play better, it just isn't quite the same!
Hifade
Oct 8 2005, 07:14 AM
Boy, you got that right Frankie. The good news is, if you're fortunate enough to get your hands on a great set of Miura forgings today, even in cavity backs, they feel is as good or better compared to the irons in those days.
I think the biggest diff is that back then the blades were exactly that...blades, and they were half the size of iron heads today. Remember the old "fluid feel" Staffs or the original McGregors? Remember how much every other shot you hit stung because there was almost no sweet spot? Yep, those were the days.
Thank God for technology.
Cardo
QUOTE(Golfchicago @ Oct 8 2005, 06:47 AM)
Just a short rant. One of my best experiences was growing up with forged irons in he 70s and 80s. Nothing is better than experiencing a round with old classic forged blades. It is an experience I won't forget and granted the new technology today allows me to play better, it just isn't quite the same!
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Golfchicago
Oct 8 2005, 07:25 AM
Cardo I used to own a set of fluid feels and a set of vips. Those were the days. Yes I remember the sting. It was a good sting though!!! Yeah those muria forged are incredible.
Chelanace
Oct 8 2005, 07:30 AM
Frank
You are talking, my era a clubs. I still have a basement full of the old classics. VIP's, Ram Tour Grinds, Wilson Staff, Hogans.
Those were fun days playing them.
Chelance, Im envious. Those are some awesome stixs you have in your collection.
Golfchicago
Oct 8 2005, 08:46 AM
QUOTE(champx2 @ Oct 8 2005, 08:37 AM)
My 1st real good set was Wilson staff FG-17. It was a huge deal for me to get a new set of forged and dump my wilson 1200 LTs
I still say if you want to know how good Nicklaus was in his prime, just try to hit a 67/68 VIP 1 or 2 iron. One of the golf mags recently did a test with a scratch player trying to repeat a Nicklaus shot. It was pretty interesting.
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OMG, this is like a walk down memeory lane. WIlson 1200 lts. A buddy of mine had those back in the 70s. God I loved my VIPs. Probably my all time favorites. Being a huge Nicklaus fan, of course, I carried mostly Mcgregor equipment. I even played the red tourney ball.
857 Pro-Ti
Oct 8 2005, 10:15 AM
Wanna talk about old? I used to use Macgregor/Tourney CF4000's with the black faces
progolfer33
Oct 8 2005, 10:22 AM
I would have loved to have played with those sorts of clubs.

I often feel it's a shame club equipment has progressed as far as it has.
br61
Oct 8 2005, 12:07 PM
I'll never forget my 1st brand new set of forged blades, Walter Hagen Ultra with those metal ferrules in late 1970's. My favorite blades from old era are Wilson FG-17 & MacGregor Muirfields. Tiny sweetspot and a pure joy when struck well. Persimmon drivers are very nice and they look smaller than today's 3 woods.
My scores has improved with today's clubs though, too ridiculously easy to hit. You youngsters don't know what it's like to play with clubs with very tiny sweetspot and the harsh realities of long iron mishits in cold weather.
lohrm1
Oct 8 2005, 01:44 PM
Add to that playing with persimmon woods. Just for fun I took an old Toney Penna driver to the range the other day and I can't believe I actually played with that thing. I must have been a much better ball striker back then! That puppy is small...
robbyporter
Oct 8 2005, 06:28 PM
Best ever were the FG-17 and the Wilson Dynapower bulletback irons(69 model)
evnpar
Oct 8 2005, 08:44 PM
QUOTE(857 Pro-Ti @ Oct 8 2005, 08:15 AM)
Wanna talk about old? I used to use Macgregor/Tourney CF4000's with the black faces

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Those were my first full set of new clubs. I had been playing with a junior 1/2-set, but after playing about three years and shooting in the 70's at 12 years-old, one day my father walked out to the middle of the course while I was playing with those in his hand. That was 1957 or 1958, and I still have them stored with my set of Macgregor Tony Pena VIP's from about 1962. When I'm playing well, I still play with VIP blades. Unfortunately, the older I get, the more often I'm using more forgiving clubs.
pitbull808
Oct 8 2005, 08:48 PM
QUOTE(robbyporter @ Oct 8 2005, 01:28 PM)
Best ever were the FG-17 and the Wilson Dynapower bulletback irons(69 model)
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Those Wilson bulletbacks had to be one of the softest buttery clubs when hit well. And this was waaay before anyone even heard of Miura. I still miss my old set. I played with Wilson Staff Tour Blades and Hogan Black Cameo Apex II's all through high school. Awesome feeling clubs and probably the last time the two brands made such coveted irons. Too bad I can't swing like I used to and make use of my old sticks. There was nothing like the pure feeling of those blades.
I won't even start on the feeling of a Macgregor persimmon driver. There is really no metal wood that can even compare to a well hit persimmon. I loved my old key hole inserts. The sound and feeling transferred to the user were the most pleasing things a person could experience.
pschu75
Oct 9 2005, 12:23 AM
About ten minutes after reading this thread, I stumbled upon this ebay auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/1968-MacGregor-VIP-by-...1QQcmdZViewItem'68 Mac VIP's by Nicklaus, seem in good condition...bonus of original grips!
Just in case some one is getting too nostalgic!
Golfchicago
Oct 9 2005, 05:11 AM
QUOTE(lohrm1 @ Oct 8 2005, 01:44 PM)
Add to that playing with persimmon woods. Just for fun I took an old Toney Penna driver to the range the other day and I can't believe I actually played with that thing. I must have been a much better ball striker back then! That puppy is small...
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You've got more balls than I do. I picked up an old persimmon recently and just wondered how in the world I made contact with it! It would be fun to try to hit one of those again.
br61
Oct 9 2005, 05:17 AM
QUOTE(Golfchicago @ Oct 9 2005, 05:11 AM)
QUOTE(lohrm1 @ Oct 8 2005, 01:44 PM)
Add to that playing with persimmon woods. Just for fun I took an old Toney Penna driver to the range the other day and I can't believe I actually played with that thing. I must have been a much better ball striker back then! That puppy is small...
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You've got more balls than I do. I picked up an old persimmon recently and just wondered how in the world I made contact with it! It would be fun to try to hit one of those again.
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Try it, I took one of my old Hogan Apex persimmon driver to the range and made some of the youngsters that works at the club hit it. Almost none of them could hit it well and I did. I had forgetten how nice it felt on flush hits. Rather short as compared to today's drivers.
857 Pro-Ti
Oct 9 2005, 09:54 AM
QUOTE(champx2 @ Oct 8 2005, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE(857 Pro-Ti @ Oct 8 2005, 11:15 AM)
Wanna talk about old? I used to use Macgregor/Tourney CF4000's with the black faces

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I have a set of those also
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You still have them JC?
My dad sold mine to one of his friends
857 Pro-Ti
Oct 9 2005, 11:30 AM
QUOTE(champx2 @ Oct 9 2005, 12:13 PM)
QUOTE(857 Pro-Ti @ Oct 9 2005, 10:54 AM)
QUOTE(champx2 @ Oct 8 2005, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE(857 Pro-Ti @ Oct 8 2005, 11:15 AM)
Wanna talk about old? I used to use Macgregor/Tourney CF4000's with the black faces

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I have a set of those also
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You still have them JC?
My dad sold mine to one of his friends

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Yep. Still have them as well as too many others to mention. I'm a MB HO. Might have to put my Hogan cameos back in the bag after all this reminiscing. Or maybe the 88 redlines w/ square grooves. Or maybe the FG-17 or mp-29 and so on

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Having not played MB's in a number of years I forgot how good they were. Maybe I need to try some again
nochct
Oct 11 2005, 02:29 PM
Still have some old wilson staffs and citation woods. the woods are in great condition and as nice as can be.
i don't miss the old clubs as much as i miss the sound of spikes.
JHR
Oct 11 2005, 02:42 PM
Here are some pictures of a set of Hagen Woods- 1,2,3 woods and a Haig Ultra 5 wood.
Also a set of 2-PW Walter Hagen International Irons, the cool thing is the Pitching Wedge is called The Haig / Ultra, look at the face on this thing, it is like a piece of sand paper- no grooves.
jumpman14
Oct 11 2005, 09:06 PM
I'm a youngster but played my first 5 years with soem old macgregor blades... i still bring them out once in a while... it's just a feeling that cant be matched when you pure the 5 iron.... and theres that other feeling when you blade it on a 40º day
cpa49707
Oct 12 2005, 07:41 AM
My first set of clubs was a set of Spaldings my mom picked up at a garge sale as joke for me. I treid them out in the back yard and it hurt so much to hit them that they sat there for 3 years untill my dad got tired of moving them around and threw them out. I didn't pick up a club for 20 years. Now i can't put them down, funny how things change.
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