millboy
Oct 28 2009, 11:40 PM
We recently had a member caught cheating on his scorecard for a club event. (small prizes) What are some of the penelties that you have heard of for such an infraction? (first offence) What do you think would be a reasonable penelty?
wehttam13
Oct 28 2009, 11:50 PM
Well obviously disqualification from that competition and take his previous scores with a pinch of salt. I honestly don't know how anyone could show their face round the club after being caught cheating. But this happened at my club, a talented player shot 75, but changed his score card and handed in a 70, it was his first offence and he got an 18 month suspension, he doesn't play anymore.
tjy355
Oct 29 2009, 08:43 AM
QUOTE (millboy @ Oct 28 2009, 09:40 PM)

We recently had a member caught cheating on his scorecard for a club event. (small prizes) What are some of the penelties that you have heard of for such an infraction? (first offence) What do you think would be a reasonable penelty?
As far as the event, the rules of golf govern the penalty.
Rule 6-6:
"d. Wrong Score for Hole The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified. If he returns a score for any hole higher than actually taken, the score as returned stands."As to what penalty the club might consider regarding the cheater's continued membership... if you have reason to believe it was intentional (not just a mistake recording a score), I would hope the committee would apply sanctions that might encourage him to quit. (suspension, lowered handicap, etc...)
Sawgrass
Oct 29 2009, 08:56 AM
QUOTE (millboy @ Oct 29 2009, 12:40 AM)

We recently had a member caught cheating on his scorecard for a club event. (small prizes) What are some of the penelties that you have heard of for such an infraction? (first offence) What do you think would be a reasonable penelty?
You said, "cheating" so I must assume it was intentional. Making an error is totally different.
How gross. The dope turned fun into crap. My sympathy to you for having to deal with it.
jjj912
Oct 29 2009, 11:14 AM
Obviously, DQ from the event and forfeit any prizes won. Outside of the Rules of Golf, I think a reasonable penalty would be ban the member from some of the club events. If you have a big yearly event, maybe ban him from that one. Or if you have an event each month, maybe ban him from the next months event.
steverum
Oct 29 2009, 11:17 AM
QUOTE (millboy @ Oct 29 2009, 12:40 AM)

We recently had a member caught cheating on his scorecard for a club event. (small prizes) What are some of the penelties that you have heard of for such an infraction? (first offence) What do you think would be a reasonable penelty?
Minimal DQ from the event
Possible 2 week suspension from the club and club events
Second offense would be 4 week suspension and banned from club tournaments indefinitely
wesparov
Oct 29 2009, 11:36 AM
To me, if he's score is in the 70s, he should be punished,
what difference does it make if he shoots 90s?
Golf is a "very personal" game, u can't keep yr eyes to players in yr group all time , just
to make sure they don't cheat.
He's just cheating himself!
jaskanski
Oct 29 2009, 11:38 AM
It's a DQ without exception. Whatever happens subsequently or socially is open to doubt. At the very least, the offender carries the shame of being caught like a dead albatross around their neck for eternity. The punishment is the knowledge that they have committed the crime, to summarize the works of Dostoyevsky and Coleridge.
OpusX20
Oct 29 2009, 11:42 AM
In Texas, we have capital punishment. I think cheating at golf would certainly qualify. But, if your club needs the dues, then you may have to find something else.
larrybud
Oct 30 2009, 09:33 AM
QUOTE (millboy @ Oct 29 2009, 12:40 AM)

We recently had a member caught cheating on his scorecard for a club event. (small prizes) What are some of the penelties that you have heard of for such an infraction? (first offence) What do you think would be a reasonable penelty?
Do tell how he cheated and how he got caught!!!
Freddie Klien
Oct 30 2009, 09:45 AM
To me if he definately and intentially cheated he should be banned from club competions for at least a year, he should also have his handicap withdrawn to stop him playing other courses - Golf is a game where you have to be honest and there are times when you have to call penatlies on yourself. How can someone who is prepared to falsify a card be expected to do this without the threat of punishment.
Carolina Golfer 2
Oct 30 2009, 09:52 AM
QUOTE (OpusX20 @ Oct 29 2009, 12:42 PM)

In Texas, we have capital punishment. I think cheating at golf would certainly qualify. But, if your club needs the dues, then you may have to find something else.
Now that's funny right there
Sawgrass
Oct 30 2009, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (OpusX20 @ Oct 29 2009, 12:42 PM)

In Texas, we have capital punishment. I think cheating at golf would certainly qualify. But, if your club needs the dues, then you may have to find something else.
I checked my state's statute, and the next punishment down from capital punishment is making one play with range balls for a year.
Many defendants opt for the capital punishment when faced with this.
jmmsports
Oct 31 2009, 09:29 AM
QUOTE (wesparov @ Oct 29 2009, 12:36 PM)

To me, if he's score is in the 70s, he should be punished,
what difference does it make if he shoots 90s?
Golf is a "very personal" game, u can't keep yr eyes to players in yr group all time , just
to make sure they don't cheat.
He's just cheating himself!
Just cheating himself and all of his fellow competitors!
milboy - Perhaps sew a large red "C" on the chest of all his golf shirts (at his expense, of course)
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