rony
Apr 29 2009, 07:07 PM
We did this here a couple of years ago and it was a lot of fun!
** If Tiger gave you 10 strokes at your home course, from the tips, and if you won the match, he would pay you $100,000. If Tiger won, you would pay him $25.000.
Now, considering the economic downturn, the pressure, (The news media would be there), and the current status of your game,.......Would you go for it?
TMfan54
Apr 29 2009, 07:09 PM
yes. but i do not have 25 k lol. im only 19.
longballjs
Apr 29 2009, 07:10 PM
Absolutely, and even more so if I got those 10 strokes in match play
loomsey
Apr 29 2009, 07:10 PM
haha not a chance
Chunkylover77
Apr 29 2009, 07:19 PM
Anyone who says yes is either nuts or rich or both. Tiger would wallop any of us mere mortals. Just so I'm not mistaken for a Tiger loyalist Phil would do the same. And I would rather play with Phil to be honest. He would at least talk to you.
TMfan54
Apr 29 2009, 07:24 PM
QUOTE (Chunkylover77 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:19 PM)

Anyone who says yes is either nuts or rich or both. Tiger would wallop any of us mere mortals. Just so I'm not mistaken for a Tiger loyalist Phil would do the same. And I would rather play with Phil to be honest. He would at least talk to you.
not so sure he would "wallop" all of us if he had to give TEN strokes! personally, i average 67/68 on my home course. that means hes gonna have to shoot 57/58 on a course he's never played. you can get terrible breaks with the crappiness of these greens. i know he could do this and shoot 57 or whatever but its not a guarantee. tiger usually is not the low round of any day in events on the pga tour but he outlasts and move up the leaderboard when others come back. not that that really has to do with this, but its not a lock that hes gonna shoot in the 50s.
rony
Apr 29 2009, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (TMfan54 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:24 PM)

QUOTE (Chunkylover77 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:19 PM)

Anyone who says yes is either nuts or rich or both. Tiger would wallop any of us mere mortals. Just so I'm not mistaken for a Tiger loyalist Phil would do the same. And I would rather play with Phil to be honest. He would at least talk to you.
not so sure he would "wallop" all of us if he had to give TEN strokes! personally, i average 67/68 on my home course. that means hes gonna have to shoot 57/58 on a course he's never played. you can get terrible breaks with the crappiness of these greens. i know he could do this and shoot 57 or whatever but its not a guarantee. tiger usually is not the low round of any day in events on the pga tour but he outlasts and move up the leaderboard when others come back. not that that really has to do with this, but its not a lock that hes gonna shoot in the 50s.
I will say, the last time we did this; to my surprise, a good many of the low hcp guys on the forum said they thought they could whip him. Still.......If you lose......You have to come up with the 25K!!
obsessedgolfer
Apr 29 2009, 07:31 PM
Im 14 so no cash, but I would not take the deal I shoot high 70's and Tiger shoots high 60's with the added pressure I would collapse and tiger would demolish my 6800 yard home course, I doubt tiger has putted shaggy-bumpy muni greens in a while though (torry pines and bethpage dont count)
Marrrk
Apr 29 2009, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (TMfan54 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:24 PM)

not so sure he would "wallop" all of us if he had to give TEN strokes! personally, i average 67/68 on my home course. that means hes gonna have to shoot 57/58 on a course he's never played. you can get terrible breaks with the crappiness of these greens. i know he could do this and shoot 57 or whatever but its not a guarantee. tiger usually is not the low round of any day in events on the pga tour but he outlasts and move up the leaderboard when others come back. not that that really has to do with this, but its not a lock that hes gonna shoot in the 50s.
the question isn't whether or not you could shoot 67 or 62 or even 58 on your home course. the question is, are you so confident in your ability to beat him within these parameters (and on national TV, in front of a gallery) that you'd take the risk of being $25,000 in debt?
Chunkylover77
Apr 29 2009, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (TMfan54 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:24 PM)

QUOTE (Chunkylover77 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:19 PM)

Anyone who says yes is either nuts or rich or both. Tiger would wallop any of us mere mortals. Just so I'm not mistaken for a Tiger loyalist Phil would do the same. And I would rather play with Phil to be honest. He would at least talk to you.
not so sure he would "wallop" all of us if he had to give TEN strokes! personally, i average 67/68 on my home course. that means hes gonna have to shoot 57/58 on a course he's never played. you can get terrible breaks with the crappiness of these greens. i know he could do this and shoot 57 or whatever but its not a guarantee. tiger usually is not the low round of any day in events on the pga tour but he outlasts and move up the leaderboard when others come back. not that that really has to do with this, but its not a lock that hes gonna shoot in the 50s.
I understand he's not going to be shooting 59's everyday. What I am taking into account is the pressure. He is used to it. We are not. His game would be unaffected while yours would plus he is the better player to begin with. And you are not shooting a 67 on TV while playing against him. I don't care how good you are you are not used to that type of pressure.
TMfan54
Apr 29 2009, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (Chunkylover77 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:32 PM)

QUOTE (TMfan54 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:24 PM)

QUOTE (Chunkylover77 @ Apr 29 2009, 08:19 PM)

Anyone who says yes is either nuts or rich or both. Tiger would wallop any of us mere mortals. Just so I'm not mistaken for a Tiger loyalist Phil would do the same. And I would rather play with Phil to be honest. He would at least talk to you.
not so sure he would "wallop" all of us if he had to give TEN strokes! personally, i average 67/68 on my home course. that means hes gonna have to shoot 57/58 on a course he's never played. you can get terrible breaks with the crappiness of these greens. i know he could do this and shoot 57 or whatever but its not a guarantee. tiger usually is not the low round of any day in events on the pga tour but he outlasts and move up the leaderboard when others come back. not that that really has to do with this, but its not a lock that hes gonna shoot in the 50s.
I understand he's not going to be shooting 59's everyday. What I am taking into account is the pressure. He is used to it. We are not. His game would be unaffected while yours would plus he is the better player to begin with. And you are not shooting a 67 on TV while playing against him. I don't care how good you are you are not used to that type of pressure.
ok then.
Double True
Apr 29 2009, 07:40 PM
LOL my home track would be a cake walk for him. He could easily drive a lot of the holes. Granted the longest hole we have from the tips is 650 yards (it's the longest par 5 in southern California) but even then he could get close to it in 2. So to answer the question, H to the E to the double L NO!!! Maybe if he beat me I would just have to give him $25 bucks, then maybe
MtlJeff
Apr 29 2009, 07:41 PM
i'd take the bet, play the match shirtless with a goldenpalace.com tattoo on my back and a taylormade driver to raise the 25K (then Taylormade could say that 50% of the guys in the match were using taylormade drivers).
and i'd get creamed. I shoot around par with no pressure. I'd probably shoot 80 with the pressure and lose to a 69 or better
epixep
Apr 29 2009, 09:11 PM
I would do this in a second. Tiger is not 10 strokes better than me, at least not in one round.
zeedub
Apr 29 2009, 10:06 PM
QUOTE
I would do this in a second. Tiger is not 10 strokes better than me, at least not in one round.
LOL so what would you shoot at augusta?
Stenson
Apr 30 2009, 01:50 PM
Hell yes. Maybe change the amounts because as a 20 yr old I dont have 25k. But as a scratch golfer I'd love this oppurtunity. Haven't shot over par round my track in a couple of weeks and shooting level at worse means tiger would have to shoot -11 to win on a fairly tricky 6,700 yard course. I'd fancy my chances....
Marrrk
Apr 30 2009, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (Stenson @ Apr 30 2009, 02:50 PM)

Hell yes. Maybe change the amounts because as a 20 yr old I dont have 25k. But as a scratch golfer I'd love this oppurtunity. Haven't shot over par round my track in a couple of weeks and shooting level at worse means tiger would have to shoot -11 to win on a fairly tricky 6,700 yard course. I'd fancy my chances....
notice how the two people who have said they could definitely do it so far have maybe been a little too young to appreciate the massive inconvenience of a $25,000 debt? i'm pretty sure if losing would cost you $250,000 and win you $1,000,000 you'd still go for it.
nothing personal, guys, but i do think it says something. for example, when i saw this question the last thing i thought about was not whether i could actually beat him, but the fact that if for some craaaaazy reason i don't, my life as i know it is over.
not worth it.
longballjs
Apr 30 2009, 02:05 PM
QUOTE (Marrrk @ Apr 30 2009, 02:58 PM)

notice how the two people who have said they could definitely do it so far have maybe been a little too young to appreciate the massive inconvenience of a $25,000 debt? i'm pretty sure if losing would cost you $250,000 and win you $1,000,000 you'd still go for it.
nothing personal, guys, but i do think it says something. for example, when i saw this question the last thing i thought about was not whether i could actually beat him, but the fact that if for some craaaaazy reason i don't, my life as i know it is over.
not worth it.
Well maybe that speaks more to your confidence and ability than others. As a "young person" paying back $115,000 in law school loans, I can appreciate it, I just dont think he would beat me by 10 strokes - maybe you think/know he would to you and you have a different outlook
lagwagon23
Apr 30 2009, 02:06 PM
If I had 25k to waste I would do it just to hang out with him. Tiger would absolutely obliterate my course. Lmao. I really think he could post a 59 on it. Not to mention the pressure of playing with him would probably make my hands shake and me pee myself a little. Heck, someone reminded me I was 2 under through 8 holes and I posted a quad on the 9th. Talk about not being able to handle pressure. I suck.
Marrrk
Apr 30 2009, 02:12 PM
QUOTE (longballjs @ Apr 30 2009, 03:05 PM)

QUOTE (Marrrk @ Apr 30 2009, 02:58 PM)

notice how the two people who have said they could definitely do it so far have maybe been a little too young to appreciate the massive inconvenience of a $25,000 debt? i'm pretty sure if losing would cost you $250,000 and win you $1,000,000 you'd still go for it.
nothing personal, guys, but i do think it says something. for example, when i saw this question the last thing i thought about was not whether i could actually beat him, but the fact that if for some craaaaazy reason i don't, my life as i know it is over.
not worth it.
Well maybe that speaks more to your confidence and ability than others. As a "young person" paying back $115,000 in law school loans, I can appreciate it, I just dont think he would beat me by 10 strokes - maybe you think/know he would to you and you have a different outlook
no doubt, no doubt. trust me, i have absolutely no confidence that i could do it. and i'm definitely not trying to say anything personal about anyone, so i'll just drop it.
EDIT: and for the record, being 25 and doused in college loans uniquely qualifies you as having a legitimate perspective. so i wasnt referring to you. but being in or just out of high school is vastly different.
Giantbear
Apr 30 2009, 02:23 PM
well this is an easy one considering i am a 16 handicap. Now, if he were to give me 20 strokes ....... probably not ..... 25 strokes ..... now i am interested, of course, the fiance would kill me, but interested. In the end, i think i would need 30 strokes to even us out, he is a plus 3 or 4 i am guessing and add in another 5-7 strokes for relative ease of the course and .......
Yeah, my answer would have to be a no.
longballjs
Apr 30 2009, 02:32 PM
Yea well maybe I was making my point wrong, because I have probably a differnet perspective as you noted than other people my age or younger who don't have any financial responsiblities (though I don't know about anyone elses financial situation).
What I was saying though, was that you are a 7.6 which is great (esp. at Bethpage). That means that you probably average 9-10 over in a round. That means tiger would need to shoot par~ish for you to win. So you probably would think I cant win that upon first glance.
For someone who is a lower handicap, they may initially view it differently as 10 strokes from their average may be 5-8 under (or more for those who are awesome).
Marrrk
Apr 30 2009, 02:38 PM
QUOTE (longballjs @ Apr 30 2009, 03:32 PM)

Yea well maybe I was making my point wrong, because I have probably a differnet perspective as you noted than other people my age or younger who don't have any financial responsiblities (though I don't know about anyone elses financial situation).
What I was saying though, was that you are a 7.6 which is great (esp. at Bethpage). That means that you probably average 9-10 over in a round. That means tiger would need to shoot par~ish for you to win. So you probably would think I cant win that upon first glance.
For someone who is a lower handicap, they may initially view it differently as 10 strokes from their average may be 5-8 under (or more for those who are awesome).
you're right, i totally understand what you're saying. everyone has a different story and we dont know each other's financials, so it was stupid of my to even mention. i just thought it was amusing that two young guys in this post started out saying they didn't have $25k. i think i was trying to say that it's easy to gamble when you're not really taking the actual consequences seriously. and i think i was also taking everything way too literally, but thats half the fun.
longballjs
Apr 30 2009, 02:41 PM
I do agree though with you, it is alot easier to talk about losing 25k in hypotheticals, especially when that amount isnt real to some just yet.
Banker
Apr 30 2009, 03:05 PM
I agree with some of the earlier posts. No way Tiger putts well on our Goat greens. He shoots 65, I double bogey the last for 76.....DOH. Bye-Bye college fund.
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