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Yesterday I played with a lefty. He hit a drive that came to rest inbounds a foot from a road which is designated as the o.b. boundary on the scorecard. The player stood on the road taking his normal stance and played the shot. Was this acceptable? Was he entitled to any relief? Or, Should he have played it standing inbounds?
no he didnt. the road is out of bounds, ie not a part of the course. Same thing as not getting relief from a boundary fence
From the USGA website: "A ball is out of bounds when all of it lies out of bounds. A player may stand out of bounds to play a ball lying within bounds."
Like irishfight4it stated, he was not entitled to relief.
Like irishfight4it stated, he was not entitled to relief.
He played it properly.
Ball was still in play...OB has nothing to do with where he stood to play the shot.
But he also has no option of free relief from an OB fence/roadway, etc. Can't pull out OB stakes either.
He DOES have the option of taking an unplayable if he so chooses...but that comes with a penalty.
Ball was still in play...OB has nothing to do with where he stood to play the shot.
But he also has no option of free relief from an OB fence/roadway, etc. Can't pull out OB stakes either.
He DOES have the option of taking an unplayable if he so chooses...but that comes with a penalty.
The Only Lefty I that is accepted in Golf is Phil Michelson. Therefore, this dude is an illegal lefty and gets a 2 shot penalty. If he's a Canadian, it's 3 shot penalty.
Are you entitled to relief if your ball was near the curb of the road? If you ball was in play, but the curb would interfere with your stroke like a cart path would.
QUOTE (D'KRUSHER @ Apr 16 2009, 01:40 PM) 
The Only Lefty I that is accepted in Golf is Phil Michelson. Therefore, this dude is an illegal lefty and gets a 2 shot penalty. If he's a Canadian, it's 3 shot penalty.
Now that is comedy.
QUOTE (stevestrike @ Apr 19 2009, 05:56 PM)
Are you entitled to relief if your ball was near the curb of the road? If you ball was in play, but the curb would interfere with your stroke like a cart path would.
No relief
QUOTE (marrigo @ Apr 16 2009, 10:31 AM)
From the USGA website: "A ball is out of bounds when all of it lies out of bounds. A player may stand out of bounds to play a ball lying within bounds."
Like irishfight4it stated, he was not entitled to relief.
Like irishfight4it stated, he was not entitled to relief.
You understood what he stated ???
QUOTE (huy @ Apr 19 2009, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE (stevestrike @ Apr 19 2009, 05:56 PM)
Are you entitled to relief if your ball was near the curb of the road? If you ball was in play, but the curb would interfere with your stroke like a cart path would.
No relief
No relief without penalty....he could always take an unplayable.
QUOTE (hbear @ Apr 20 2009, 05:18 AM)
QUOTE (huy @ Apr 19 2009, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE (stevestrike @ Apr 19 2009, 05:56 PM)
Are you entitled to relief if your ball was near the curb of the road? If you ball was in play, but the curb would interfere with your stroke like a cart path would.
No relief
No relief without penalty....he could always take an unplayable.
Just another question.
In that situation, a player thinks he could have relief because the path is a inmovable obstruction and drops the ball within 1 club distance.
He continues playing and finish the hole with 4 shots. In the green he realised that the path wasn't a inmovable obstruction.
The result of the hole won't obviously be 4, but my question is what will the result be:
If he can't play his ball, the right way would have been take an unplayable relief (within two clubs distance) with one penalty shot.
Will he be disqualified? or as he had dropped the ball in the right zone for an unplayable ball (he has dropped within one club distance) he could consider that his result is 5 (4 shots plus the penalty). In other words, is it neccesary to declare your ball unplayable before you lift it?
Thanks
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If a competitor makes a stroke from a wrong place, he incurs a penalty of two strokes under the applicable Rule.
He must play out the hole with the ball played from the wrong place, without correcting his error, provided he has not committed a serious breach (see Note 1).
If a competitor becomes aware that he has played from a wrong place and believes that he may have committed a serious breach, he must, before making a stroke on the next teeing ground, play out the hole with a second ball played in accordance with the Rules. If the hole being played is the last hole of the round, he must declare, before leaving the putting green, that he will play out the hole with a second ball played in accordance with the Rules.
If the competitor has played a second ball, he must report the facts to the Committee before returning his returning his score card; if he fails to do so, he is disqualified.
The Committee must determine whether the competitor has committed a serious breach of the applicable Rule. If he has, the score with the second ball counts and the competitor must add two penalty strokes to his score with that ball.
If the competitor has committed a serious breach and has failed to correct it as outlined above,
he is disqualified.
He must play out the hole with the ball played from the wrong place, without correcting his error, provided he has not committed a serious breach (see Note 1).
If a competitor becomes aware that he has played from a wrong place and believes that he may have committed a serious breach, he must, before making a stroke on the next teeing ground, play out the hole with a second ball played in accordance with the Rules. If the hole being played is the last hole of the round, he must declare, before leaving the putting green, that he will play out the hole with a second ball played in accordance with the Rules.
If the competitor has played a second ball, he must report the facts to the Committee before returning his returning his score card; if he fails to do so, he is disqualified.
The Committee must determine whether the competitor has committed a serious breach of the applicable Rule. If he has, the score with the second ball counts and the competitor must add two penalty strokes to his score with that ball.
If the competitor has committed a serious breach and has failed to correct it as outlined above,
he is disqualified.
His score would be double bogey 6. Or DQ if determined to be a serious enough breach.
I'd give him a 6.
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