"I fought my swing all day and almost won the tournament with a band-aided swing," said Woods. "I was just terrible. I didn't know what was going on."

How nice for Tiger to show respect for the other players by saying he is so good that he almost won with a band-aided swing and was terrible. I guess he did them all a favour.

Could he not have said he did his best but it was not just good enough this week? Unfortunately not, because he is just a bad graceless loser.

Of courses, when other players complain, the haters come out in hordes around here. But how long before the Tiger faithful rally to his defence?

It was a bad swing. He wasn't hitting it close all week. His drives were awful. What in the world do you want him to say?

Well, it's all about how you manage your misses.

Perry, Campbell and Cabrera will also tell you that they respectively almost won, almost won, and did win -- by not playing their best.

Tiger was not saying the others were playing their best and he, Tiger, almost won. Which is what you are implying.

Tiger did say he played poorly and almost won -- but so did the other guys; and one of those playing poorly did win.

I thought the Masters was very entertaining until Perry got to the 17th Hole - then the entire tourney descended into mediocrity. The last hour was not fun to watch.

The OP commented on an article yesterday about how nobody as far down as Tiger and Phil could even come back from that deficit.
News flash Mj-Tool...They made a run! Like I stated, nobody is ever out of a tourney and im sure you were choking on your evening meal when you seen that leader board.

Is that your game dude, kick a man when he is down???? I would LOVE to see you come back from knee Surgery, win your 5th API 3 tournaments in, play in the MASTERS and yes "ALMOST" win it after 9 months off with his "C" Game!

You my friend are a "MORON" and have no clue how competative TW is. Tour players are thanking Tiger for not being zoned in so they can have a chance to win. Once his swing and putting are in check, GAME OVER!!

66 wins and 14 Majors, ahhhh YES, TW is "THAT" good .

Elin?

Apparently 3 minutes

Christ could we analyze every word he says a little more? He just meant that he was pleased that he played so terribly and still had a damn good chance. That's all.

That's very funny

Yup. I agree.

It's not like Tiger came out and said "man, I played awful today and the guys ahead of me still almost didn't pull it off. I'm so good that my C game is almost as good as everyone else's A game"

Positive mental attitude!

hahaha

he did seem grouchy in the post round interview I saw

and I thought it was odd that he called the reporter "dude"

i think this thread is more about the OP getting attention than it is about Tiger. otherwise, he would have posted in one of the many other existing threads where people share their dislikes about Tiger.

but who wants to be on page 14, right?

Yeah, he has attitude. It's not going to change. Stop Bickering.

well played sir

The Steveeee -the Buddy-Buddy honeymoon is over (!?) .....Tiger was frusterated all week and his repulling clubs on every fairway says to me: I dont trust Steveee. Next !

Tiger didnt say ONE thing to the press after one his round, was it Sat ? TW has been playing this game intensely since he was, mm, 5 years old ? His re hab was intense, maybe he's at a stage of burnout.

I do wonder what goes through some of the reporters' heads when ask they some of the questions they do.

"How did it feel to miss the winnning shot?"

"How did if feel to know the win was gone?"

"How does it feel to lose?"

"What were you thinking when you made that double bogey?"

I mean what do you think they were thinking?

Hahaha.

It is kinda funny to see the way people are so willing to have double standards. When Tiger whines, it is just that he is competitive and has 'attitude'. When Sergio does the same, all you see here is a load of illiterate abuse and plans to barrack him at Bethpage. Maybe they should have an IQ test to get into Bethpage. It would sure cut those crowds down.

What Tiger should have said was "I gave it my best shot, but just came up short. Gonna work hard for Bethpage now". Classy and gives credit to the players who beat him. But he couldn't do that.

For the record, I don't hate Tiger, but I don't think he is God either.

And he is certainly no Jack Nicklaus.

Don't forget the constant comments about gusts of wind ruining his shots.. How about I played like c#$p and the others were better at managing their errors. If you look Angel hit 50+% of the fairways and Tiger hit 63%. Angel did better with his misses than El Tigre did.. Both Chad and Kenny gagged a maggot.. But it was an enjoyable Masters especially when Phil splashed and Tiger finished his usual way bogey bogey. Maybe next year Tiger will practice on three holes 1, 17, 18. Even his last win in 2005 he managed to bogey 17 and 18 to not close the door on DiMarco. This after the constantly run Nike commercial from 16..

Yes, I did love how when he hit a shot, I forget what hole - and the wind gusted about 2 seconds after contact - and he whined out something to the effect of: the wind gusted, how can the wind gust - Tiger, you are good - but you're not god

He is a little arrogant sometimes.

One hole he missed a tough 35' putt be about 2 inches and dropped his club and looked up and paused with a disguted face, like he should of made it.

Happens often.

Complete and utter bollocks. He said his knee was fine, and he has been a wild driver from before it was injured, and he will be a wild driver after it is 100%, if it is not already.

I don't know how competative he is, but I do know how competitive he is. You are confusing being competitive with whining in an ungracious manner after he lost. The two do not need to go together. See Nicklaus as an example.

I reckon you are full of hot air and wouldn't put your money where your mouth is, so I am willing to bet a $100 donation to a kids charity that Tiger does not win more than 1 major this year. Anybody who thinks he can win 2 or 3 is welcome to match that bet.

Sign up!

How generous of you to give even money odds on Tiger winning 66% of major championships

Wouldn't you be pretty bummed under those circumstances (major championship, and the one he wants to win the most of the 4) when you think you made it (and I guarantee you, he's thinking about making alot more putts than we realize) and it just barely comes up short? Personally I would be.

When Sergio whines, a thread starts about it and everyone weighs in, because some of the things he's said after tournaments have been unbelievable and deserve a ton of ridicule. That is much different than what happens with Tiger on this site. Multiple threads per day are started criticizing almost every aspect of his life. Some people spend hours aruging that he is a poor father because he practices until 7pm. Tiger could look at someone the wrong way and a thread will start. However, he does get a ton of good press, so it only makes sense he also gets a ton of bad. Though I may not agree with it all, i'll concede that point in the name of harmony.

My problem is this (not directed to the OP specifically):

I like Sergio, and I like Tiger, and I like Phil, and I like Johnny Miller and I like Faldo. There are a few people I dont like, but that actually makes me want to talk about them LESS, not run to my computer and start a thread about them. There are some, not the OP, but some, who claim to hate certain players/broadcasters, yet seemingly spend all day on threads here complaining about them. It's obvious they find a lot of enjoyment in the ridicule. That is a sign of immaturity and an inability to show reason in the face of hatred.

I'm just saying, the negativity on this site lately, no matter who it is directed at, is kind of mindblowing. It's turning into golf TMZ.

What would be the point of a bet like this? Why would you root for anyone to lose? Why not just donate the money straightaway, then continue your anti-Tiger rants. You'd be able to pat yourself on the back for doing something noble in addition to over-analyzing post round comments.

Am I the only one getting sick of these Troll Bait threads?.......

Any excuse to snipe on TW.......lol

Fair enough. The odds you are looking for is actually the odds of winning any 1 of these combinations:

US Open + The Open, but not the PGA
(at 2-1, roughly 0.33 x 0.33 x 0.66 = 0.072)

or

US Open + PGA, but not The Open
(same calc)

or

The Open + PGA, but not the US Open
(same calc)

or all 3.
(0.33 x 0.33 x 0.33 = 0.036)

Total probability about (0.072 x 3, plus 0.036 = 0.251 = 3-1 odds.

OK, wanna take that bet at 3-1? You Tiger fans stake $33, I stake $100?

The point is not to will him to lose, but simply that a lot of the Tiger fans spout hot air about how many majors he will win, but wouldn't back it up with a bet.

Nor am I anti-Tiger, more of an agnostic, but it appears that around here if you do not revere him, you are a 'hater'. Yet as far as Sergio is concerned, anybody can say anything about him, and that is cool.

Not a huge fan of his either, as it happens.

I think the point of the matter is that the guy is in the spotlight every tournament and when he is "on" he dominates. People like a winner. Conversely, people hate winners because they are usually dominate. Pick a sport. There are dominate teams and people in those sports that everyone hates for whatever reason. It doesn't bug me because I simply don't care what you think. Everyone has their favorites, be it Sergio, Phil or Tiger. Even people pick on Kenny Perry because he decided not to play in a major. So freaking what? Are you relying on any of them for income?

The man played I think in the best Masters EVER with Phil, but still people find stuff to complain about. He didn't say Hi to all 30,000 fans on Sunday! Phil's pants are striped, Kenny Perry uses old R7s! Geez!

It gets so old reading all this banter. Tiger Woods is a FIERCE a** competitor. When he looses he is pissed, something Mickelson could learn. He told the truth pal, he wasn't hitting the ball great he hit a lot of loose irons and he still almost won. HE IS 3 TOURNAMENTS REMOVED FROM KNEE REHAB!!!! That comment is showing you that he is trying to build confidence knowing he is almost completely back. Sergio is an idiot. Have you EVER heard Tiger Woods blame a golf course for not winning? Hell no.

Tell you one thing, Jack...is no Tiger.

Don't forget the thread accusing perry of teeing ahead of the marker on 16 and the one that accused freddy of cheating last week ... lol

Markk, you aren't going to solve any problems by exaggerating or making things up. I am the one you are talking about with the bad father stuff and that isn't what I said.

The conversation was about Tiger's amazing dedication to the game. I stated that I think Phil enjoys spending time with his family (getting away from golf) more than Tiger does. Tiger IS more dedicated to golf and with that comes less time for other things, including family.

BTW, I wasn't arguing with myself. For every person who is spending "hours" arguing about this or that, there is a Tiger backer wasting just as much time refuting it. But those people are just serving the cause I guess?

Maybe applaud the guy that won it over 4 days ... maybe acknowledge there are other golfers who exist in the world..... instead of saying he was bad but still came close.
Personally I hope one day he has to eat humble pie as I am getting pissed off with the Tiger Woods Roadshow.

It's obviously pointless to chime in on this thread, but I can't resist...

I love watching Tiger play, love watching him win. He may or may not be the best ever, but he's definitely the best I've ever seen. (I'm only 26...)

Sometimes he can seem a little arrogant with post-shot reactions or post-round interviews...but hey, it is what it is.

I'll let a f-bomb on the course and a quick little post-round interview slide in return for getting to watch him play. That's just me...

+1

I've never been a Tiger fan for just this reason. When he first came out on tour he was in the final group lost the tourny and didn't even shake the winners hand, he just walked away and threw a pitty party. Seriously half of you guys need to get out of Tigers a**. He's just a man, not God himself or Jesus reincarnate.

You actually said, "I don't think you can say you are entirely dedicated to your family if you never see them. Asleep when you leave and ready for bed when you get home. But at least we know what is most important to Tiger, golf."

Maybe it is going a bit far to say that you said he is a bad father, but you certainly said he isn't dedicated to his family, didn't you? Are you not also saying that golf is more important to Tiger than his family?
If your point was to say that Phil isn't as dedicated to golf as Tiger, then perhaps you meant something completely different when you wrote the above statement. If so, my apologies for misunderstanding your meaning.

BTW, replace Tiger's name with anyone else's name on tour, or on the planet, and I'd still make the same argument that you can't judge the quality of another man's family life based on what you think is more important to them by what you've seen on TV or read on the interwebz.

+1

Maybe also say that it must have been a great afternoon for the fans and how much he enjoyed battling Phil and getting back into the mix. By all means say how pleased he was to contend just 4 events out of re-hab and he wasn't quite sharp enough. Instead he kept throwing hissy fits about the wind, the fact that he gets blocked out by trees on 17 when he hits a 'perfect' drive 20 yards off line, deliberately blanks talking about Phil or any other competitors. It was a great event and to be honest would have been a great event without Woods. As others have said you can be a fierce competitor and still show a little humility afterwards - manners cost nothing and Nicklaus can still teach him a lot

Just so you guys know, Tiger REALLY cares what you think.

the bottom line is, like the rest of us, you dont really know anything about the parenting of either Tiger or Phil, but you just make assumptions. frankly, i was kind of bummed you never followed up on either of these gems:

"Tiger has a lot of fans for the same reason Barack Obama has fans. And it has nothing to do with golf or politics."

"There are also people who respect the two of them for other reasons."

Funny you didn't defend these when you were asked to please elaborate further. I don't suppose you'll start now?

Just like Sergio, Tiger speaks his mind and I respect him for that.

EVERYONE -

Please take a look at the rules again listed at the top of every page. Time to get ALL these post Masters bickering/slamming/putting each other down threads behind us. Let's move on.

IMO, Tiger is somewhat insecure. This is one reason why he has to over prepare every tournament in order for people to have nothing bad to say to him.

During his rounds, when there's something out of the ordinary, like his ball in a sand filled divot, or a plugged lie in the bunker, he has to act in a way that lets the crowd know that the way in which his ball lies is not normal. Once he feels some sort of recognition and understanding from the crowd of his situation, he feels less pressure in not pulling off the shot. If he doesn't pull off the shot, it's because of the funky lie. If he does pull off the shot, well I'm Tiger Woods.

This constant need to let us know that he has left no stone unturned while preparing to hit a shot, or the way he has to let us know that there is something unusual about his ball as it lies --- is his way of feeling secure before he hits a shot.

As for his post round comments:

If you're a roofer, and you were in a competition with other roofers, would you acknowledge that another roofer was better than you on that day?

If you're in consulting, and you were in a competition with other consultants, would you acknowledge that another consultant was better than you on that day?


Some of you do not understand competitiveness.

So that makes it OK does it??

I must remember that concept that I can act in any way I choose because I do not give $0.01 what anyone else thinks

So I guess that virtually the entire rest of the field must be wrong then in showing a bit of appreciation for their fellow competitors when interviewed?

We understand competitiveness alright, but take it to the course and show some grace afterwards in defeat whilst harbouring the burning desire to win next time

usually to things like this, people say "well it's great he's so upset. he holds himself to a higher standard than most golfers so i think it's fine, even GOOD to see someone to passionate in their loss".

people will stand up for his bad sportsmanship and praise his emotions for losing.

You're too serious.



Some people on tour ARE on tour, just to make a living. And when speaking to the media, they can be as gracious as they want. Less attention brought onto themselves makes it easier to make a living on tour.

It's just obvious that you can't have a negative comment about Woods, Marrk, how much do you know about Tiger and Phil's pareting? If it's no more than leeds, than leave it alone

If four strokes off is almost winning then there are a lot of players almost wining every week. Is TIger the only guy with a b or c game?