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the dragon
I can't believe the short eagle and birdie putts that Phil missed today. His address during his practice stroke looks decent, but he almost always extends his putter for the actual putt and hardly moves his feet. It is no wonder most of his misses are pushes. Does Dave Pelz not see that?
Giantbear
Phil has a long history of missing those 4-6 foot putts.
seanh
He should be wearing a green jacket.
Icetech
Yeah, cept that whole thing bout not winning... other than that he should be wearing a green jacket...
MtlJeff
he made some great putts today too. Phil has gotten much better in recent years at the close ones, but today's were heartbreakers for sure. All in all he can't be ashamed with his round

plus, narrowly outplaying Tiger in a round that meant this much will be great for his confidence in the future. I believe he can really be happy leaving augusta this year despite not winning
GatorBait
I think viewers got a glimpse of just how good Phil can be when he doesn't have his head parked firmly up his behind. In my opinion, he is much more explosive than Tiger. That front nine he played was insanity. The only difference is, Tiger would have been wearing the jacket had he had that front nine. #12 was a big "WTF Phil!"and something Tiger would not have done.
Leeds1888
Color me confused. A guy dumps a ball in the water on 12, makes a 5 and deserves a green jacket more than Angel Cabrera, a guy who played great golf for 74 holes, not 9?

If you are going to play the what if game and say that IF Phil played all his bad shots perfectly you can give him the green jacket, and his name is Tiger Woods. Because if Tiger played all his bad shots perfect and made all his short putts, he is the winner. What sense does it make to only say what would have happened if Phil did this or that? If Phil had gotten to -13, maybe Perry doesn't bogey the last two holes and wins at -14. You have no way of knowing.
Leeds1888
BTW, Phil said of the putt on 15 that he wasn't sure what it was going to do, so blaming Dave Pelz doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. Phil said he thought the putt went one way but then after Tiger putted it confused him. That is why he missed it, not because of some tendency.
seanh
Yah, he should have NOT hit a 9 iron so fat it comes up 20 yards short and make double on 12, and he should have made a 4 footer for eagle on 15, and he should have made a 3 footer for birdie on 17. You would think that the number 2 player in the world should be able to get it done in the clutch. BUT, he didn't!

How can you be happy leaving Augusta without the Green Jacket. That is precisely why I am not a Phil fan. But hey, he beat Tiger today. YAH!!!!
DefConOne
i wonder if the pressure gets to him?
the dragon
I'm just wondering why he doesn't move his feet forward the same amount he extends his putter. It just seems strange to me.
seanh
Also, it looked like he went back to some version of the #9, from the blade with the insert he had been playing all week. Anyone else notice that?
Jer-Jer
Make that eagle putt on 15, make the birdie putt on 17, and not suck on 12 or 18 and he would have been in it. And all that is not far fetched at all. But woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Awsi Dooger
QUOTE (GatorBait @ Apr 12 2009, 09:35 PM) *
I think viewers got a glimpse of just how good Phil can be when he doesn't have his head parked firmly up his behind. In my opinion, he is much more explosive than Tiger. That front nine he played was insanity. The only difference is, Tiger would have been wearing the jacket had he had that front nine. #12 was a big "WTF Phil!"and something Tiger would not have done.


That's exactly what my friends and I were saying when Phil birdied 8: Tiger in the same position would finish it off, partially because the field would fold. But with Phil it was still a case of potential victory, or lose by 7 shots.

That's a good way to put it, more explosive. Phil definitely has more dramatic talent, ability to flush iron shots in sequence like Johnny Miller of old. But he can also manufacture bogeys and missed opportunities out of nowhere. Seriously, how can you overreact to Tiger's miss on 15? There should be a reservoir of what the putts want to do, the historical break at given points of every green. Rely on that, not what you think you've seen from a slightly different angle. Phil and Bones look for ways to out think situations. At 12 the costly miss is always weak and right on Sunday.

This is what I've noticed, and it was glaring today: In their 2005 showdown at Doral, Tiger was noticeably longer off the tee than Phil. In fact, Phil was pressing to keep up but could not. Four years later and it's completely reversed. I don't know if it is Tiger's swing or the equipment or the spin rate of the Nike ball, or likely some combo, but he sacrifices too much yardage to the big guns. A few days ago I watched the '97 Masters highlights and it looked like he would win this tournament by open lengths many, many times, due to sheer power. Kind of remarkable that has not transpired. Even his subsequent victories have not been dominating.
Chunkylover77
It is amazing how a guy can shoot a course record and finish with a 67 and still be dumped on as choking. He missed the one on 15 because he was confused after Tiger's putt. He misplayed his shot on 12 because he didn't like the club selection. The rest of the round was insane. I've never seen anyone hit their irons as laser like as that. C'mon guys. I think credit should be given to the winners who held their cool even though Tiger and Phil made great charges. Absolutely amazing final round and one of my favorite Masters of all time. Can't wait till next year.
carlito_tx
He saw Tiger's putt go right on 15 and got "FOOLED"????

dude, your name is on your bag. Pick a line and make a confident stroke. Good to see Phil found the trigger on his iron game (which was superb), but the putts @ 15 and 17 illustrate exactly why it's so agonizing to root for Phil.

and.... and Bones should have gone Cheech Marin and snapped the 9-iron in half @ 12. a smooth 8-iron to the back-middle of the green and the ENTIRE COMPLEXION OF THE ROUND changes for the ENTIRE FIELD. oH WELL.
Chunkylover77
QUOTE (carlito_tx @ Apr 13 2009, 09:54 AM) *
He saw Tiger's putt go right on 15 and got "FOOLED"????

dude, your name is on your bag. Pick a line and make a confident stroke. Good to see Phil found the trigger on his iron game (which was superb), but the putts @ 15 and 17 illustrate exactly why it's so agonizing to root for Phil.

and.... and Bones should have gone Cheech Marin and snapped the 9-iron in half @ 12. a smooth 8-iron to the back-middle of the green and the ENTIRE COMPLEXION OF THE ROUND changes for the ENTIRE FIELD. oH WELL.


He did pick a line. His line was influenced by watching Tiger's putt and it fooled him. I didn't see a bad stroke there. It was a good putt with a bad line. A bad read on 17 also. On 12 I thought I heard Bones say he liked the 9 there. Either way I'm just saying I didn't see him choke. I don't see how you can shoot a 67 and be considered a choke. I do agree however if everything had gone right for Phil yesterday that he would have won. Did anyone else hear that there was some crazy fan doing snow angels in the bunker on the 17th right before Phils putt? Heard that on Mike and Mike this morning but didn't hear it on the Masters telecast. I was cooking at the time though and may have missed the commentary.
mrpibb7781
I would not say he played GREAT for 74 holes. The difference was Angel was able to come back from spotty play at times and make the big putt when it mattered. Phil couldn't do that. I mean, tell me right now Angel played a flawless round yesterday, and we obviously were not watching the same tournament.
mrpibb7781
there was nothing in the telecast explaining that. must be another gag order by those uber powerful Augusta chairmen
carlito_tx
QUOTE (Chunkylover77 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:03 AM) *
QUOTE (carlito_tx @ Apr 13 2009, 09:54 AM) *
He saw Tiger's putt go right on 15 and got "FOOLED"????

dude, your name is on your bag. Pick a line and make a confident stroke. Good to see Phil found the trigger on his iron game (which was superb), but the putts @ 15 and 17 illustrate exactly why it's so agonizing to root for Phil.

and.... and Bones should have gone Cheech Marin and snapped the 9-iron in half @ 12. a smooth 8-iron to the back-middle of the green and the ENTIRE COMPLEXION OF THE ROUND changes for the ENTIRE FIELD. oH WELL.


He did pick a line. His line was influenced by watching Tiger's putt and it fooled him. I didn't see a bad stroke there. It was a good putt with a bad line. A bad read on 17 also. On 12 I thought I heard Bones say he liked the 9 there. Either way I'm just saying I didn't see him choke. I don't see how you can shoot a 67 and be considered a choke. I do agree however if everything had gone right for Phil yesterday that he would have won. Did anyone else hear that there was some crazy fan doing snow angels in the bunker on the 17th right before Phils putt? Heard that on Mike and Mike this morning but didn't hear it on the Masters telecast. I was cooking at the time though and may have missed the commentary.


agreed, that was no choke. He played agressively and well. but, as is often the case with Phil, his fans have plenty to monday morning quarterback about. Take away two bad reads on short putts and two questionable club choices (on the 12th and 18th tees) and the round goes from pretty heroic to perfectly heroic... that's golf, though.
skinny99
I like Tiger and Phil both,the reason why Tiger is so successful was very apparent yesterday! If you watched those two play and didn't know the score you would have thought Phil killed Tiger not just beat him by one stroke. Phil's stretches of brillance are amazing but his ability to grind is a little suspect. The swing on 12 was really the determining factor,the announcers were very generous with the description of his miss,it wasn't a punch/half swing it was a chunk! That is why he didn't finish the swing,the club just about stuck in the ground. IMO Todd

RangerEsq.
QUOTE (Leeds1888 @ Apr 12 2009, 06:40 PM) *
BTW, Phil said of the putt on 15 that he wasn't sure what it was going to do, so blaming Dave Pelz doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. Phil said he thought the putt went one way but then after Tiger putted it confused him. That is why he missed it, not because of some tendency.


With you there, on that, buddy -

at least Phil is honest and sincere and open to his feelings about it in a nice way.
I'm a lefty
If thre is confusion on 12, should not the miss be long? Take a 5 out of the probability.
Lefty17
Even with a nine iron on 12 the play is the middle of the green like the other 45 players in the field. A pull still gets you on the green.

Tiger used his B game to and Phil used his A game. Tiger lost by one to Phil.

All the credit goes to Chad, Kenny and Angel for hanging in there and making the playoff.

Angel deserves full credit for the win. Tiger and Angel played the 18th the same way in the tree's off the trees and one walked away with par and the other a bogey at very key times.
carlito_tx
QUOTE (I'm a lefty @ Apr 13 2009, 12:15 PM) *
If thre is confusion on 12, should not the miss be long? Take a 5 out of the probability.


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