When someone refers to a Lob wedge as a "Loft wedge"

- Rant on:

Who cares! Awfully hippocritcal coming from anyone reading a golf discussion board dedicated to the latest and greatest golf equipment. Let people carry and play what they want. I take this personally as I continue to suck at this game although I love it and have worked hard to improve but just lack the skill. This does not mean that I should not be able to own nice equipment. I hope you were talking more about the attitude that somrtimes comes with this sort of player.

Rant off-

Cliff J.

There are so MANY things that can bother you when playing golf. There's an even longer list of things you OUGHT to pay attention to when you play golf.

This is why I'm so floored every time I see these "I can't believe this guy was off 15 and had $4K of equipment in his bag."

W H O C A R E S????

Once again: one thing that a man should never do is tell another man how to spend his own money. Never.

this is to kingheatly and the rest of ya'll that continually post about staff bag posers....  Get over it....Staff Bags have nothing to do with a golfers skill set, so quit judging them as posers.  I choose the use of a staff bag for several reasons,  I am a diabetic, that is in very good health but I still need to watch myself and dehydration playing golf here in the southeastern u.s.  So I choose to ride.  Hoofers just do not cut it for riding....period.  As for cart bags they maybe a good choice for some,  but for me and probably many other staff bag users think Cart Bags are gimacky.  i.e.  14 club pockets, a million, zillion pockets of no useless size on cart bags.  just put several good sized and a large pocket on the cart bag, like a well made carry bag, plus a majority of the cart bags have too many colors, and designs and a majority of them look like they come from outer space.   A great cart bag would be an appropriately sized traditional staff bag for riding in a cart.  Too me there are two types of bags that have a traditional appearance in the game of golf.  A carry bag or a staff bag.  They are traditional.  Cart bags are not, I think they are novelty bags.  i.e. special putter wells, special sleeve for dispensing balls,  little fastners for towels, gloves, sharpies, built in beverage coolers.  Are you getting my point.  These are the bags being used by the golfers going on a 5 hour picnic.....Everybody on this site needs to get over there staff bag issue.  It has zip, nadda anything to do with a golfers ability or what there ability should be.
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Like MasterCard.

Does anyone here even like to golf? Or does everyone just buy equipment to stare at it?

We buy equipment to look at and take pictures of to post online. Occasionally we like to rant online and wish the weather was nicer so we could play instead of sitting in front of the computer.

As for annoying things, most of mine have been covered in the thread from slow play to people that dont fix pitch marks on the greens. >_<

My #1 pet peeve is when someone in my group carries their conversation from the cart to the tee box. They try to hurry the last few sentences in a whisper like it's any less distracting when i'm already addressing my shot and have gone through my pre-shot routine. Just shut up or bite your tongue for two seconds and i'll give you the same due respect when it's your shot.

#1 Pet Peeve - people who complain about everything. Golf is fun, enjoy it!

I hate it when a golfer in my group stands behind or in front of my line of putt to get a read on his ball. I'm in a Friday golf league and I can't believe the number of golfers thatt do this.

I always politely aske them to move off the line, and the begrugingly move. Somtimes they only move an inch or two and I have to aske them to move a little more.

Is there a golf rule against standing on a competitor's line of putt?

I hate it when a golfer in my group stands behind or in front of my line of putt to get a read on his ball. I'm in a Friday golf league and I can't believe the number of golfers thatt do this.

I always politely aske them to move off the line, and the begrugingly move. Somtimes they only move an inch or two and I have to aske them to move a little more.

Is there a golf rule against standing on a competitor's line of putt?

If you live in the North, its all we can do November through March.

I did not see anyone mention this...so, I will say it is really annoying to watch average players (10-20+ hcap) head to the back set of tees and struggle all day long because they don't hit the ball far enough/solid enough to handle 7000+ yards. I know my limits and they are about 6700 yards.

I don't mind frustration, but I cannot stand it when people are dropping F-bombs and GD every time they mis-hit a shot/putt. It is so classless and disrespectful to those around you and to the God that made you. I do my best to chastise myself by name...I remember hearing Jack Nicklaus do this as a kid on tv....he would say "Oh Jack" with a tone that let you know he was frustrated. I wish Tiger would try that instead of F-ing this and GD that. He seems to be a classy player in every way but this. Too bad.

From the other side:

People who come into the shop and check in 5 mins before their tee time, then run the whole course behind because they take another 15 to get out there because the insist on talking on their cell phone or going to the bar, but heaven forbid if you put someone infront of them.

People who call the golf course on a Saturday morning between 9am-12pm and ask if they can "Just come out anytime and walk on"

People who complain about pace of play after they have been told the pace is slow, or their tee time is delayed...these are usually the same people who also complain when a marshall asks them to pick up the pace or skip a hole.

People who call the proshop to complain about pace of play, you then have to go out there to check why they called, and you see the group infront of them a hole ahead and the guys that called waving you over, lining up putts, checking yardage, etc. etc.

People who look for balls in lakes, environmental areas, or in forrests...or whenever a ball retriever is in someones bag, i cringe

People who ask to demo clubs and say to their buddies "ya, i hit this about 325 when I tried it at the golf shop" and they proceed to go to the range to warm up and can barely hit the ball

People who go to the range with a driver, and only a driver before a round

Also for the record...Marshall and the Pro Shop are usually on slow groups by hole 2 or 3...and they both usually are aware of them. There is not much you can do because: 1. Marshall are usually either voltunteers who are working for free golf and retired, or retired and getting paid very little basically wanting free golf, so they don't really want to get yelled at by people on hole #2 and ruin their day so you kinda just try to deal with it the best you can.

It's a lose lose situation for proshop staff and marshall's...if you move a group they are pissed at you, if you don't the group behind is pissed, either way someone is pissed off and for the most part people are usually in both situations at one point or another.

Things I can't stand while playing:

When people complain about a conversation, a noise, another group talking, etc. Ok really? Who do you think you are, if you can't handle noise please leave

People who pace off every approach shots yardage. Really? I'm a + handicap and I don't know exactly how far each iron shot goes because I'm not that consistent, so do you really think because your 144 instead of 150 it's making a huge difference? Just hit it NEAR the green it will probably work out much better and is GREAT for pace of play.

People who wait on Par 4's or 5's...especially Par 5's when it's a 500 yard hole and they hit their driver 200 yards...oh really? is your magic wood coming out of the bag that goes an extra 100 yards? hit your layup and go wait there so the group behind you can tee off.

People who "Reverse Sandbag" There is NOTHING worse then playing with someone who is "about a 2" handicap and they start off double, triple, double, bogey and say "oh must be a bad day"...really?...a bad day? maybe a bad adding job on the score, you last 74 was probably more like 84, get a real handicap and stop acting like a PGA Tour player.

People who change clubs 100 times because "the wind is up" or "oh wrong yardage"....really?...really? your yardage was off by 15 yards so you have to run across the fairway to your cart, run back, take one swing and then top the ball...good, good thing you changed clubs your top might of only gone 30 yards instead of 35.



Sigh...that was good to get off my chest...

That is pretty funny- I gotta check that out for no other reason than to have those ringers on inside my house!!

People who NEVER put the flagstick back in the hole. You know the types. After holing out, they walk to their bag and let others do the work.

Same here. My usual playing partner and I play at the same muni every Monday, and he's a smoker and does exactly this. Also, there's times when he throws the cigarette down before he hits his shot (mostly on the tee box). I've warned him that one day I'm gonna come to the course the night before and pour circles of gasoline around the teeing areas so that when he throws his cigarette down he's instantly surrounded by a wall of fire. He laughs, but he'll learn his lesson someday...

alot of those i don't see too much but one i do see all the time is people not marking their balls.

it's lame and bugs the crap out of me.

People that stand right behind the hole when your putting. Hey man I know you want the line but I dont want to see you scratch yourself while im reading my putt haha.

Oh and the sunflower seeds spit on the green: gross, disrepectful to everyone else, and kinda rednecky.

I am curious about this one! I have found myself in this situation a couple times,not planning on playing so I don't find people to play with, then the option of playing comes up! What should I do just show up? I think calling is the only thing that makes sense,if they have no openings they can tell you! Enlighten me please. Thanks Todd

I think calling and asking for a tee time would obviously make the most sense. Obviously if you are a single you can ask to be paired with another group.

Yes, there is a rule against standing on the line (or an extension thereof) of a player's putt. That is why you always see the pros (and me! ha ha) stand off to the side and then take a couple steps over as the ball rolls so as to see the break.

Pet Peeves?

No classers who NEVER sand/replace a divot, fix a ball marker or rake a bunker.

Loud mouths who are swearing, exclaiming, or otherwise have loud diarrhea of the mouth during play. Especially when you are in middle of backswing on adjacent tee!

Any nasty a** cranky miserable SOB who manages to find a way to gripe and complain and otherwise act like an uncouth jerk continually (often because they are not scoring like Tiger despite having a swing that looks like a backhoe falling down a hill! ) when having the great fortune to play this beautiful game on almost any day. Amazing to me how many just plain miserable people there are on the golf course sometimes!

to add to not having the time to play...DON'T BE LATE TO YOUR TEE TIME!!! I like to get the feel of the putting green before teeing off so I'm always on time but I know some people who are fun to play golf with but hate to wait for.




HEY! they can't help it! that's how bad their experiences are with some golfer's. Don't blame them, blame the cause.



I don't really care much about other people's bags and I agree about not telling another man how to spend his money....but it's a different story when the other man is telling me how HE spent is money...and how much it was.



thought that exact same thing when I read it...lol



Love golf, love the asthetics and history behind it....see it more of a gentleman's game than a players.....but not gonna lie, I'm guilty of starring.

I discovered something that I really cannot stand yesterday . . . metal cups.

I HATE the sound of a ball falling into a metal cup. I almost didn't want to make my putts because of it.

If you are in the Houston area, I would suggest going to Swede Golf in Deer Park. You would be better off buying equipment and parts elsewhere, and taking it to them, but they do good work for fairly inexpensive. They are on San Augustine, about 500 feet west of Center street.

Hate to be a complete d***, but they actually proved on Mythbusters that a cigarette butt can't ignite gasoline.

Still though, that would be pretty hilarious to see.

-Courses that try and squeeze groups out in 5 minute time slots instead of closer to 10.
-Marshalls that don't marshall but instead drive around and look for lost golf balls.
-Chops that scream and curse when they miss their 10 footer for double bogey.
-D*cks that play your ball without taking 5 seconds to look at it.
-People that have no sense to look around the green at where the other marks are at and proceed to walk on your line.
-First one in gets the pin right? Not for those great people that putt out first and walk off....
-People that don't fix divots or rake bunkers.
-Flags in utterly recockulous pin positions like on a side slope of a two tiered green where there is water on that side.
-Pretty much every thing else that all of you mentioned before me.

of all things, nothing bothers me more than people who TAKE FOREVER at the turn. my dad goes into semi-retirement after the 9th hole. he disappears into the clubhouse and i don't see him again for 20 minutes. come on, pops! get the hell back on the course already!

oh yeah, and people who live directly on golf courses and act shocked, SHOCKED! that your ball hit their house. it's one thing to come out and check for damage, but it's another thing to act like the possibility of this obscene monstrosity never crossed your mind.

Got to be honest here, don't play golf w/your girlfriend, and don't play golf w/girlfriend and family! It's going to be a miserable day. I know your trying to be a good guy, but it will be a long day!

I hate that people do a crappy job raking the bunkers! I hit in them, and when I do, I'm in a Sasquatch foot print.

Rake the bunkers!

Yeah true, but her some of her family that usually goes are bad @ss at golf. one is a low single, one shoots low 80's and another shoots mid 80's but occasionally breaks 70. a couple of them were the main reasons why I started...I just had to beat her dad at golf HAHA! and my gf plays well too she is better than average for women golfers.

at the beginning of it all I was the one who was making it a long day got better since then, but anyways I can see how it could be miserable. but once a year they all go and it's nice.

Same here.. I am 27, so alot of the times, I am grouped up with older guys... I have had some of the funnest/best rounds, with older guys out there.... I love sitting in the cart and hearing the stories they have... I was unfortunate to not have a grandfather growing up, and when I get out there with older guys, I soak it up as much as possible...

smokers who throw their butts on the ground.. especially out of car windows and near the fringe on a green. It's still trash.

I would agree with most of your post except that one. I'm not hitting the ball 280, but I'm pulling out the rangefinder to get the distance to the hole, so I know what I want to layup to, and if I actually can(hazards etc.). The rangefinder coming out is not vanity.

I almost feel like "Old man yells at cloud" (out of a Simpson's cartoon), when I post in these threads, but it has a therapeutic effect, I suppose .

Bad:
1) Club competition. The person I have to keep score for hits the ball in the direction of a water hazard, where it disappears from sight in midst of the bushes and reeds that surround the water hazard. Person says "I'll just play a provisional."
2) Slow play that is caused by stupidtiy. I do not mind beginners, old ladies or little kids taking 5 shots to get onto the green, as long as they move. What I am talking about is people who leave their bags front right of the green, when the route to the next tee is from the back left of the green. Then they putt out, walk to the front of the green again, get their stuff and walk all around for the third time to get on their way to the next tee box. Sheer stupidity.
Good:
People who do not curse after bad shots, but say something like "I'm such a fool" and smile. Believe it or not, most of those are not fakes, but the people I enjoy playing with most. Also, I have to second the posts about taking off your hat when shaking hands. And your Oakley's, too, please.

Man who tells at cloud gets the same outcome as man who talks to airborne golfball.

I never curse at a shot or yell at it...I I just say things under my breath and it's either: Go, bite, Oh-no, Bingo, or the usual...."hmmm"

I always put my bag to the back of the green because of two reasons..I'm kinda lazy and I never want to be short so I always aim a tad further.

OH another good thing:

high five/fist pound/"high-grip" (hit club grips like light sabers) after a bad @ss approach shot is always nice and boost confidence as well

People who mark their ball on the green by placing their mark between the ball and the hole - then replacing the ball between the mark and the hole when it's their turn to putt.

+1 ray

BAD:

If you're going to dip and chew tobacco while playing DON'T spit on the green or tee box and when you're done throw it in the trash or in the woods not in the middle of the fairway or the fringe of the green!!!

Edit: referencing slow play when the hole in front is open and the next group is waiting. I agree Zlim with your post below.

Golfers that take all day to putt. This isn't the pga tour so no need to circle your line, plumb bob it and then squat behind it still unsure. If its a tournament or you've got a lot of dough on the line, ok, but not for a round with your buddies!!

GOOD:

Any golfer that has a good attitude and is respectful to his playing partners!!

I hate when I get paried up with people (i don't know) who tell me to hurry my putting up but they take more putts to put it in. I think I'm right at average maybe a tad over. I sit behind my ball stand and set up...then putt....20 seconds max. And I don't two putt when I take my time like this.

I don't mind faster play but don't tell me to hurry up when you putt goes 7 feet past the hole and 4 feet past on the way back. and then you finally take your time making an easy 3 over

Forgot to add one more good thing. Playing with fellow golfwrxers when they come to town and having a great time swapping stories and jokes.

annoying: people ask you to use your clubs (when you dont know them)

Whoa! that sounds awesome, Anyone in the Denver Metro Area in CO...and you need a fourth...PM me! I'd love to meet some follow WRXer's in a round of golf



Never had that happen but I have had a guy ask to try my clubs and the first thing I said was...

"let me see your swing first"

............

One thing that really bugs me is when people say "please and thank you" at the same time.

Like someone will say "Can you pass me the rake, please and thank you." Not sure why, but this drives me nuts. People should say please when asking, and then after the 'task' is done then say thank you. This can be applied to everything outside of golf as well.

For the record, I've never let on that this bugs me, as I realize it is a weird quirk; but it definitely irks me on the inside. heh.

For the good things: I'll echo the removing of the cap when shaking hands after a round. I think this is great.

Couple things that really piss me off.

Played a round at a shorter course a couple months ago so me and my friend decided to play from the blue tees. So we got paired up with the these 2 hackers and thats when it went all down hill:

- first hole - topped driver (it happens so I let it go)
- so he got to about 200 yards from the hole (up hill), and he was out but he just kept standing there waiting for the green to clear (he topped it and advanced 50 yds only) - noticed they were hackers here
- 2nd hole (down hill drive, blind from the tee box) - said i was goin to go forward a bit to the side to help follow his ball. He severely topped and pulled it and the ball hit my back. This f***er wentback to his bag to get another ball, re-teed, picked up the ball that hit me and walked passed without saying sorry.
- not gonna continue going hole by hole cause I could but other things....stepping on my putting line, taking a wedge to chip then runs back to the cart to grab the putter, doesn't help put the flag back in the hole after everyone putts, go thro a "putting routine" for a 1 foot putt, start driving their golf cart while me and/or my friend is still on the fairway about to hit our approach shot, and not shaking hands after the last hole.

worst round of golf ever!!!

No kidding. That was my dad's way of telling me to do something growing up. "PLease and thank you" implies it will be done. My dad had a pretty good assurance of something being done, since, you know, I wanted to watch the hockey game on Saturday night. Anyone else who is not my employer should not have the attitude that something will be done. Most people ask, and I'll usually help out, but act as though I'm a man slave, and things get a little different.

I'm going to have to go the other way on this one. I have a regular golf buddy who does that all the time, and it makes kind of feel like it's imitating the pros. I usually keep my on even in that case, now if we are paired up with another twosome and both those guy do it, I will just not to seem rude or anything, but to me it's kind of like trying to immitate the pros.

Now the funny thing is, I ALWAYS take my hat off in the clubhouse whether it's a muni or upscale private club. That's more of the way I was raised about wearing hats inside. My buddy that takes his off to shake hands, keeps his on in the clubhouse...go figure

I can't stand the PACE OF PLAY now. Here in Florida the norm seems to be 4 1/2 to 5 hours. 99.99999% of golfers would play better if they played FASTER. They play like they are on the tour. I play often a short course of about 5800 yards and the rounds are still almost 5 hours. THis is because there is NO tee time integrity. THey have tee times but it is nothing to 4 and 5 groups waiting to tee off on the first hole. Rangers NEVER do anything and PLAYING through here were I play is UNHEARD OF. Also hate playing with people that hate every freakin shot they hit and complain and say they are leaving.

How does having a hat on or off when shaking someone's hand or being inside change anything? How does that makes even the tiniest shred of sense? I am aware it's commonly done or used to be at least but it seems completely insane and without logic.

On the staff bag issue: The reason some people are offended by another person's bag is because very often people with staff bags actually are arrogant posers who pretend they're important touring pros. So the disliking of staff bags comes from people just anticipating that. The same goes for the clothes and the clubs. Nothing wrong with them, but they are legitimate warning signs for possible arrogance is all. The worst sign is when people who have not just a staff bag but a staff back with their name written on it. I sure hope they play golf for a living because what other possible reason would their be for doing that other than that they pretend that they play golf for a living. A lot of wannabe tour pro and jokes of mini tour players do this. As if anyone gives a flying fred funk what their name is and are looking for them. And I can tell you from first hand experience 9 out of 10 of them are super arrogant. They are all doing it for one reason only, that they hope people will think they're important. The might as well put fake sponsor logos on their shirts while they're at it.

I agree with the disliking of not just slow players but rusher fast players who give themselves putts inside 10 feet and don't read any putts and act like people are holding them up. If you want to rush that's fine but don't act like other people playing at a normal or even under 4 hour pace should cater to it. And kind of on that same subject, hackers who rush just the putting and short game after I have to wait an eternity for their god awful long game the entire hole up until that point. Sometimes I have to even explain to a hacker, putting and the short game matters a lot for my score so I'm going to take a little time on it, kind of like it takes you time to hit four shots to get to the green where it takes me very little time to hit only twice on every non par 3 hole, so stop acting like I'm holding you up psychopath. I don't actually say the psychopath part.

I also agree with it being annoying for impatient people in my group to act like I need to hit while the group ahead is walking to their cart or on the green on a short par 4 or long par 5 that I actually will reach. It's like what do you want me to do worry that I'm going to hit somebody while I'm swinging, that is annoying. A lot of times they really get going with this and say "just hit you're not going to hit'em, I'll pay the doctor's bill if you do." Which is a funny line, but I actually drove a par 4 and hit someone after that conversation once. The conversation from them while the ball was in air was then "oh sh#t I think that's there" "that is right at that one guy" "why did you tell him to hit" "uh oh it got him in the leg I think (partially held back laughter)" "oh man he might be pissed" It was about a second or third bouncer calf shot so not that big of a deal but still too dangerous. We apologized of course when we got up there, but surprisingly the people in the group ahead were really cool and jokingly said it didn't hurt, and they were more concerned with telling me I hit a nice drive than talking about that. So great attitudes on their part.

I've already said too much here but I also must mention that people who talk in unnecessarily loud obnoxiously blaring voices to each other so you can hear them all over the course are just ridiculous human beings. There is no excuse for talking to a guy that's twenty yards away in a voice that travels 400 yards. They act like they're on an airport runway or at a loud bar when they are actually in a quite nature setting where you can hear a squirrel chewing an acorn. And sometimes I've even seen people do that on a cell phone.

Playing too fast is as bad as playing too slow. My buddy and I played a round this week and about the 4th hole, my buddy tells me as we are walking up the fairway that one of the guys we are playing with is bitching about me taking my time to line up my shots. My preshot routine is not long, maybe 30 seconds from the time its my turn to hit until I make my swing. Every hole he would be the first to tee off then fidget while everyone is hitting like we are holding him back and he was walking down the fairway just as the last person swung. A couple times he was at the next tee before we putted out.

I didn't say anything but I did purposely play a little more deliberately just to drive him bonkers.

We finished the round in 3:45 (posted pace of play is 4:15). I didn't let it bother me since it was more humorous to watch this guy freak out, but damn what an A** Hole.

Yes, you've said too much...

3:45 to PLAY?!?!?! DAMN nothing wrong at all with that, I would love to play that pace. IN my post when I complain about slow play it is 5 to 5 1/2 hour rounds which seem to be the norm near me, especially in the winter with all the northerns down and the course so crowded.