Pat du Golf
Mar 26 2009, 04:22 PM
I am a tiger fan but golf is all about etiquette. I am appalled when I watch the best in the world slam/ throw his club when he hit a bad shot. I am sure a knucklehead will repeat the same thing at my CC.
Shouldn't the PGA fine HIM? What's your thought?
Marrrk
Mar 26 2009, 04:24 PM
oh my god, please not another one of these holier than thou/feigned moral outrage threads.
rkruff
Mar 26 2009, 04:29 PM
When you are the best in the world, you can do whatever you want. He isn't doing it for show, he is doing it because he is pissed and does not accept anything except the best. We are different, that's why we are reading this instead of enjoying life with $700M.
mat562
Mar 26 2009, 04:30 PM
Looks like it Mark.
I heard someone swear the other day too.
Marrrk
Mar 26 2009, 04:32 PM
QUOTE (mat562 @ Mar 26 2009, 05:30 PM)

Looks like it Mark.
I heard someone swear the other day too.
well, that's just poor etiquette. i'll bring the torches if you bring the pitchforks.
Pat du Golf
Mar 26 2009, 04:35 PM
Sir,
You are missing the point here. I am talking about etiquette, le savoir vivre....Not money......All his money come from sponsors and you know how bad the economy is now....Just respect for the game
kekoa
Mar 26 2009, 04:37 PM
a co-worker of mine plugged his putter head into a green yesterday after missing birdy putt for 69. I thought this was very out of line.
When I see someone cuss or slam a club down, I think it really reflects how intense and serious they are about the game. I cuss a lot, but never throw a club just because I know how much it would cost to replace. I've buried an iron head into the ground a few times tho.
stage1350
Mar 26 2009, 04:37 PM
Somebody needs to tell him that everytime he curses or throws a club, a kitten dies.
(That's a lot of dead cats!)
jaskanski
Mar 26 2009, 04:38 PM
Nobody likes to see that. The public don't, the course owners don't and his sponsors certainly don't want to see him abusing their equipment or even daring to call it's performance into question.
A fine isn't really the answer - his pockets are pretty deep. Real deep.
Maybe he needs a mentor to kick his a$s when he does something stupid like that.
Penalty strokes can be issued for slow play - why not for the equivalent of the tennis "racket abuse"?
Bottom line - he should know better. It's obvious he endures the constant scrutiny of the golfing world - why give them cause to gripe?
abewley
Mar 26 2009, 04:40 PM
ok.. dude.
if thats the case.. remember that the next time you make a birdie... no fist pump no "yes!" no high 5's nothing. you show no emotion whatsoever.
then you come back and b**** about the best player every showing emotion.
wtf has the world come to?
uhntissbaby111
Mar 26 2009, 04:42 PM
because he is a drama queen. it always seems like he over dramatizes everything, from the way he turns away when he gets sand in his eyes from a bunker shot to when he throws clubs. i got my flame suit ready
adam
BigLeftyinAZ
Mar 26 2009, 04:45 PM
There is no need to slam a club down.To mutter a few swear words isnt a big deal.
Pat du Golf
Mar 26 2009, 04:47 PM
Let's not get out of pocket here. Since when emotion means throwing clubs? What would Phil Mickelson do after so many heart breaking situations? We all witnessed it. But I never saw the man throw his club. He is not a Zin master.
Robert Brown
Mar 26 2009, 04:51 PM
There is a fine for such on the tour...they take care of it in private and do not release the info on who or how much it cost them... While such (throwing clubs, profanity, etc.) is understandable, the tour says that it is not acceptable. I believe that Bobby Jones and Jack and Arnold have talked about doing such things when they were younger but stopped because it was not in keeping with that which makes golf special game that it is... "golf does not build character; it reveals it"- Bobby Jones
sbrylant
Mar 26 2009, 04:57 PM
oh my...someone called into question the great Tiger Woods. i'm sure all the Phil bashers will jump out of the woodwork to defend their boy to the death on this thread.
sigh
Marrrk
Mar 26 2009, 05:03 PM
fair enough. though i have no problem with the occasional emotional outburst, whatever it entails, i'll agree to disagree.
but a whole new thread asking WHY TIGER DOES IT? just because he is the best player in the world does not mean he should be held to a higher level of etiquette than everyone else. if you believe he should, then you do not really believe in etiquette at all.
if you really care so much about players tossing the occasional club, why dont you start a daily thread listing all the culprits?
Carl Spackler2
Mar 26 2009, 05:04 PM
"why tiger throws his club down??"
Well I think its because hes mad....
bscinstnct
Mar 26 2009, 05:07 PM
QUOTE (Pat du Golf @ Mar 26 2009, 05:22 PM)

I am a tiger fan but golf is all about etiquette. I am appalled when I watch the best in the world slam/ throw his club when he hit a bad shot. I am sure a knucklehead will repeat the same thing at my CC.
Shouldn't the PGA fine HIM? What's your thought?

I have seen the some of the worst breaches of etiquette imaginable at CCs. My favorite was a CEO with an impeccable pedigree throw
his entire set of clubs into a lake...one by one.
Eagle006
Mar 26 2009, 05:13 PM
QUOTE (uhntissbaby111 @ Mar 26 2009, 09:42 PM)

because he is a drama queen. it always seems like he over dramatizes everything, from the way he turns away when he gets sand in his eyes from a bunker shot to when he throws clubs. i got my flame suit ready
adam
Lol. This is very true.
rkruff
Mar 26 2009, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (Robert Brown @ Mar 26 2009, 02:51 PM)

There is a fine for such on the tour...they take care of it in private and do not release the info on who or how much it cost them... While such (throwing clubs, profanity, etc.) is understandable, the tour says that it is not acceptable. I believe that Bobby Jones and Jack and Arnold have talked about doing such things when they were younger but stopped because it was not in keeping with that which makes golf special game that it is... "golf does not build character; it reveals it"- Bobby Jones
Please don't be naive....Tiger does not get fined by the PGA TOUR. He is the TOUR.
bscinstnct
Mar 26 2009, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (Eagle006 @ Mar 26 2009, 06:13 PM)

QUOTE (uhntissbaby111 @ Mar 26 2009, 09:42 PM)

because he is a drama queen. it always seems like he over dramatizes everything, from the way he turns away when he gets sand in his eyes from a bunker shot to when he throws clubs. i got my flame suit ready
adam
Lol. This is very true.
Or like when he wins the US Open with no left knee and winces a bit for the camera. What an actor!
ps-Just in good fun, no serious flamage intended.
tanguy
Mar 26 2009, 05:31 PM
I thought it slipped out of his hands...
tbowles411
Mar 26 2009, 05:31 PM
Geez, here we go again!
TOUCH
Mar 26 2009, 05:33 PM
That is why I am no fan of Eldrick and his baby poor sport conduct.
NEVER see my Lefty do such classless crud.
Rust on Edrick!
Show them class Mickelson!
littlepingman
Mar 26 2009, 05:34 PM
QUOTE (tbowles411 @ Mar 26 2009, 06:31 PM)

Geez, here we go again!

My thoughts exactly. Do we really have to have one of these threads every other week?
If ever there was a dead horse that just doesn't need another beating, this is it.
carogers1
Mar 26 2009, 05:42 PM
Please don't be naive....Tiger does not get fined by the PGA TOUR. He is the TOUR.
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Actually, I believe that Tiger holds the record for being the most fined player in the history of the PGA. Of course this is due to the camera always being on him and him using an expanded vocab...but still.
I do get tired of all of the club tossing , the one at Doral with his putter was a little much. It doesn't really bother me enought to lose sleep though.
TheCapedAvenger
Mar 26 2009, 05:47 PM
Personally, I think Tiger Woods shows so much restraint it is ridiculous. Were I in his position, you better believe I'd have a bud at the turn and swear a blue streak up and down when a bogey cost me enough money to buy the OP's house and car.
I think both Tiger and Phil are EXTREMELY good role models, no matter how you slice it. Stop trying to make them into robots and enjoy the emotion that comes with sport.
jowwy
Mar 26 2009, 05:52 PM
some of you guys really need to get a life or something........there's a damn site worst things going on in the world than tiger dropping or slamming a club..........the guy is an awesome golfer and damands the best from himself, showing some emotion when he gets it wrong is not ANoTHER reason to open a slam tiger thread........
just grow up and get over it why don't you!!!!!!!!!!!!
and for all the phil lovers out there, i'd rather see tiger throw a club, than mickelson's cheesy grin on my screen!!!!!!
joe perry
Mar 26 2009, 05:52 PM
why does tiger throw a club...
because he can - same reason a dog licks it's balls
pops766
Mar 26 2009, 06:01 PM
QUOTE (joe perry @ Mar 26 2009, 04:52 PM)

why does tiger throw a club...
because he can - same reason a dog licks it's balls
Post of the day!
pops
AcesAZ
Mar 26 2009, 06:04 PM
donzo
Mar 26 2009, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (pops766 @ Mar 26 2009, 07:01 PM)

QUOTE (joe perry @ Mar 26 2009, 04:52 PM)

why does tiger throw a club...
because he can - same reason a dog licks it's balls
Post of the day!
pops
Nope, of the week.
JASONR5
Mar 26 2009, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (jowwy @ Mar 26 2009, 05:52 PM)

some of you guys really need to get a life or something........there's a damn site worst things going on in the world than tiger dropping or slamming a club..........the guy is an awesome golfer and damands the best from himself, showing some emotion when he gets it wrong is not ANoTHER reason to open a slam tiger thread........
just grow up and get over it why don't you!!!!!!!!!!!!and for all the phil lovers out there, i'd rather see tiger throw a club, than mickelson's cheesy grin on my screen!!!!!!

Couldn't you say the same thing about Tiger?
usaglfho
Mar 26 2009, 06:38 PM
Lack of maturity.
Most people (here) understand the desire to win and play well. I have never seen Nicklaus, Palmer, Snead and Nelson throw there clubs and curse like Tiger. I am not saying the old timers did not do that but i doubt it was anything like Tiger. Sure there
is constant TV coverage now as compared to the 50s,60s and 70s but that is more
reason Tiger should grow up.
Tiger will probably be the greatest player by the time he is done in terms of wins in both Majors and tournaments but he is not in the same league as Nickluas, Palmer, Snead and
Nelson when it comes to role model behavior and class.
bambooluv
Mar 26 2009, 06:42 PM
It is unfortunate, however it is life...I wouldn't mind seeing a fine system. I think the PGA has already discussed this internally, and feel the same about it, when you perform at a high level in any sport you can lose it when things dont work out how they are supposed to. Now the Sergio incident from a little back thats low class....
motownlambs
Mar 26 2009, 06:49 PM
there is nothing you can do about, so you should adjust and get over it, OR if you cant stand the man so much STOP watching him play!!!!
cb_golfer
Mar 26 2009, 06:51 PM
Don't bother me one bit. I don't even care when he blows his nose by plugging one nostril with his finger and then blowing it out the other.
Marrrk
Mar 26 2009, 07:20 PM
let's talk about etiquette, because it's not a zero sum game. Tiger emphatically yells FORE and points on wayward shots.
unlike some others... i'm looking at you, Retief.
atlanta golfer
Mar 26 2009, 07:34 PM
The only thing at stake here is a person's reputation and how many loyal fans they build. People pretty much earn their reputation and place in history based both upon their stats and upon their behavior and fan following. What is developing is a situation where, 30 years from now, people will say "best ever in terms of stats but lots of people didn't like him because of ......". And to Tiger, he may not care. And to most of his fans, they may not care. But what is being lost is the kind of widespread admiration people like Palmer receive from so many. And I do not think this is related to race, but more so just to behavior.
madman19710
Mar 26 2009, 08:39 PM
i just figured out why he throws his driver cause he sucks with it. i bet the sq will be back in his bag soon. or maybe the pga will widen all the fairways on the right side.for the good of the game.
tbowles411
Mar 26 2009, 08:41 PM
The King himself just said he's been known to throw a club or two. Let's flame him too! Geez!
birdieblair
Mar 26 2009, 08:49 PM
QUOTE (motownlambs @ Mar 26 2009, 04:49 PM)

there is nothing you can do about, so you should adjust and get over it, OR if you cant stand the man so much STOP watching him play!!!!
Not really possible the way that the golf channel and the networks follow his every move when he is on the course.
longbal30
Mar 26 2009, 08:52 PM
Noooooooooo, the king said he has done it a few times but his father taught him at young age that is NOT how you act.
Lets get to the real problem with this, it really doesnt matter if he wants to act like a infantile little whiny brat, What does matter, is that he is a role model of so many young golfers, he should respect the game, so that his young fans can emulate him in a positive way. I dont care how pissed off he gets about missing a shot, there is this little thing called COMPOSURE.
TheWoat
Mar 26 2009, 09:00 PM
I think Tiger is a club throwing devil. We need more coverage Zach Johnson and his endless supply of infant sons.
Go Celtics.
fengdefied
Mar 26 2009, 09:14 PM
dpb5031
Mar 27 2009, 09:35 AM
I was watching with my 10 year old daughter last night when Tiger slammed his driver. Like most juniors, Tiger is her favorite. Children her age imitate their heros. Tiger's every move is watched and absorbed by these kids. He has a direct influence on thousands of junior golfers and how they will ultimately choose to conduct themselves on the course. Plain and simple, he sets a bad example with that type of behavior and should show some restraint.
I admire his passion and high expectations of himself, but for a player who is so disciplined in all other aspects of his game and life, he should learn to exhibit it a little more of that discipline with regard to his on course conduct. He knows the cameras are always on him yet still chooses to exhibit poor conduct. He can and should do better.
arkstorm
Mar 27 2009, 09:44 AM
QUOTE (tbowles411 @ Mar 26 2009, 08:41 PM)

The King himself just said he's been known to throw a club or two. Let's flame him too! Geez!
Actually, what the King said was that he hasn't thrown a club since he was 16 because his father told him if he ever did that again as long as he lived under his roof he wouldn't be allowed to play golf.
arkstorm
Mar 27 2009, 09:46 AM
QUOTE (dpb5031 @ Mar 27 2009, 09:35 AM)

I was watching with my 10 year old daughter last night when Tiger slammed his driver. Like most juniors, Tiger is her favorite. Children her age imitate their heros. Tiger's every move is watched and absorbed by these kids. He has a direct influence on thousands of junior golfers and how they will ultimately choose to conduct themselves on the course. Plain and simple, he sets a bad example with that type of behavior and should show some restraint.
I admire his passion and high expectations of himself, but for a player who is so disciplined in all other aspects of his game and life, he should learn to exhibit it a little more of that discipline with regard to his on course conduct. He knows the cameras are always on him yet still chooses to exhibit poor conduct. He can and should do better.
+1 on this post.
Also, Tiger didn't just slam his club down (as he often does), he winged it across the tee box.
Bomb and Gouge
Mar 27 2009, 09:46 AM
I think Tiger and Woody Austin should be jailed ... possibly deported.
Tenementrock
Mar 27 2009, 09:55 AM
At least he didn't fling it towards his caddy.
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