swing981
Mar 15 2009, 05:49 PM
i know hes the god of golf..but im geting sick and tired of the antics he pulls on the course. Few yrs ago dragging putter along green and today dropping putter on green after poor baby missed his eagle. Great golfer and bad manners...by the way nice win Phil
sandy
Mar 15 2009, 05:55 PM
I much prefer when he hits a bad chip on a hole he will cough up a giant lugy and spit it on the green. Usually greenish/yellow so he must have a permanent sinus infection.. LIke a dog marking his territory.
asloper6001
Mar 15 2009, 06:00 PM
I know he is hard on himself, but I am also tired of his childish acts. Your not in the chase to win the tourney, so just suck it up and play. You already have enough money, so finishing 3rd or 10th place really doesn't matter. Just put the ball in the hole and let's get on with the game. Great match-up today between Watney and Mickelson, I really enjoyed watching it.
highergr0und
Mar 15 2009, 06:02 PM
I agree. I was a bit surprised to see him throw the putter into the green. I can even handle the drop, but the throw actually can wreck the green.
LBlack14
Mar 15 2009, 06:14 PM
I'm supprised the OP hasn't been suspended yet.
montanza
Mar 15 2009, 06:15 PM
Ya I'm with you on that, and what's with the spitting. No class. Never saw Jack or Hogan flinging a big greeny. If he doesn't make the putts , he's middle of the road player. But can spit better than the others
Carl Spackler2
Mar 15 2009, 06:19 PM
Maybe you tough guys should fine him, that will teach him a lesson.
Oh wait, he has more money than god.
Boba
Mar 15 2009, 06:20 PM
You may want to change your title, people are have been banned for calling Tiger "Tigger."
Bones01gt
Mar 15 2009, 06:23 PM
He didn't do anything wrong. Now Pat Perez at Pebble a few years back trying to bury his iron in the fairway, that was over the top. Tiger is gonna be Tiger. These guys are playing for a bunch of money and that putt cost him money so he was upset about it. He's a man. Men do things like that. Heck, Tommy Bolt would just huck his flatstick in the nearest pond. Bobby Jones would just walk off and quit. Tiger is just a man trying to win golf tournaments. I don't see anything wrong with showing a little emotion. He didn't take a full swing and drive his blade into the putting surface, he just flipped it in disgust right in front of him. Not a good example for kids, but who cares, there is much worse things on TV for them to see. It surely didn't leave a mark, or "wreck the green."
Bones01gt
Mar 15 2009, 06:29 PM
QUOTE (montanza @ Mar 15 2009, 07:15 PM)

Ya I'm with you on that, and what's with the spitting. No class. Never saw Jack or Hogan flinging a big greeny. If he doesn't make the putts , he's middle of the road player. But can spit better than the others
I guarantee Jack and Ben have hocked some loogies in thier day...GUARANTEED! Check the Nicklaus museum in Columbus, they probably have one of them in a jar somewhere!
Middle of the road? Tiger was nearly last in putting and still finished in the top 25% of the field. I don't know the stats, but I would be willing to bet that whoever was one position ahead of him in putting was nowhere near him on the leaderboard.
Leftygolfin
Mar 15 2009, 06:31 PM
I think everyones a little unfair here. Every move Tiger makes is on camera. Everyone acts up a little on the course they just aren't filmed constantly. Tigers real on the course in my opinion. Its better then Phils fake humbleness if you ask me.
drpino
Mar 15 2009, 06:32 PM
i don't care that he does what he does but i do care when a double-standard is set for other golfers. you won't stop hearing people complain about how Sergio looks at the green like a spike mark caused his putt not to go in or how Monty whines about the galleries but when Tiger acts in a similar fashion he gets a free pass just because he's god's gift to golf.
i mean please...Tiger's already the greatest golfer to walk the planet...he really doesn't need an army of fanbois to defend him.
Tmiller72
Mar 15 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (montanza @ Mar 15 2009, 07:15 PM)

Ya I'm with you on that, and what's with the spitting. No class. Never saw Jack or Hogan flinging a big greeny. If he doesn't make the putts , he's middle of the road player. But can spit better than the others
They were too busy smoking back in those days.
OnOff
Mar 15 2009, 06:33 PM
QUOTE (Carl Spackler2 @ Mar 15 2009, 04:19 PM)

Maybe you tough guys should fine him, that will teach him a lesson.
Oh wait, he has more money than god.
Well said.
littlepingman
Mar 15 2009, 06:34 PM
QUOTE (Boba @ Mar 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

You may want to change your title, people are have been banned for calling Tiger "Tigger."
That is the first thing I thought when I saw the title. I remember another member being banned for using the term "Tigger" when referring to Tiger, no exceptions should be made if the same rule is broken here.
jimbonecrusher
Mar 15 2009, 06:34 PM
I see Tiger is still as childish as he was when he was 16. Never ceases to amaze me. I don't understand how people can be deep throating Tiger so much that they don't think this is a problem.
Thrasher
Mar 15 2009, 06:41 PM
I didn't like seeing Tiger throw his putter down either. It's disrespectful to the course and other competitors. Somebody else may need to putt on that same line. Also, I think it sets a terrible example for the young golfers watching the telecast.
I get tired of how Tiger is portrayed by the media. I could go on and on regarding this topic...but I won't.
OnOff
Mar 15 2009, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (Leftygolfin @ Mar 15 2009, 04:31 PM)

I think everyones a little unfair here. Every move Tiger makes is on camera. Everyone acts up a little on the course they just aren't filmed constantly. Tigers real on the course in my opinion.
Its better then Phils fake humbleness if you ask me. 
Really should not go here but whatever. I think that what often people confuse for fake humbleness on Phil's part is really just him being awkward. I think he has a dorky awkward way of acknowledging the crowds applause. Hey at least he acknowledges the crowd. When I was at Rivera on Saturday he gave me a fist pound as he walked to the 16th tee, made me feel pretty cool. When Tiger sprayed his drive on the 13th on Saturday of the 2008 US Open, I was there as he walked up to his ball. Everyone was applauding him as he walked up and he literally made eye contact with no one. Not even a head nod to acknowledge the applause. He looked through everyone as if they didn't exist. It left you feeling really insignificant. When Phil sprays one, he will ask if everyone if they are okay and I've twice heard him joke with the crowd about his short comings pertaining to driver accuracy.
This thread will most likely end up closed now but I wanted to throw that out there.
mgranato
Mar 15 2009, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (Leftygolfin @ Mar 15 2009, 06:31 PM)

I think everyones a little unfair here. Every move Tiger makes is on camera. Everyone acts up a little on the course they just aren't filmed constantly. Tigers real on the course in my opinion. Its better then Phils fake humbleness if you ask me.

Woods' has one of the most engineered public personas of all time, yet Phil is "fake"?
scotchblade
Mar 15 2009, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (OnOff @ Mar 15 2009, 07:44 PM)

Hey at least he acknowledges the crowd. When I was at Rivera on Saturday he gave me a fist pound as he walked to the 16th tee, made me feel pretty cool. When Tiger sprayed his drive on the 13th on Saturday of the 2008 US Open, I was there as he walked up to his ball. Everyone was applauding him as he walked up and he literally made eye contact with no one. Not even a head nod to acknowledge the applause. He looked through everyone as if they didn't exist. It left you feeling really insignificant. When Phil sprays one, he will ask if everyone if they are okay and I've twice heard him joke with the crowd about his short comings pertaining to driver accuracy.
That's exactly what I've seen over the years. I'll never get the Phil bashing and Tiger love. Never. I honestly do enjoy golf more without him. Thank goodness he plays so few events.
birdieblair
Mar 15 2009, 07:07 PM
QUOTE (mgranato @ Mar 15 2009, 03:46 PM)

QUOTE (Leftygolfin @ Mar 15 2009, 06:31 PM)

I think everyones a little unfair here. Every move Tiger makes is on camera. Everyone acts up a little on the course they just aren't filmed constantly. Tigers real on the course in my opinion. Its better then Phils fake humbleness if you ask me.

Woods' has one of the most engineered public personas of all time, yet Phil is "fake"?

+1
tbowles411
Mar 15 2009, 07:11 PM
Boy aren't we nitpicking? There is plenty of other things that happen on a golf course than someone dropping a putter on a green. And for heavens sake, if someone was screaming in your face when you're at work, and you didn't hear them because you were concentrating on what you had to do, would I hold it against you?
Here's a little story for you. AT&T in 2007 here in DC. Tiger nailed a guy in the crowd. Right rough. Hit him hard. He walked up to the guy, asked if he was ok, autographed his glove, snapped a picture with him and strolled off. Of course, that's not reported on ESPN or TGC. Only when he blows past someone while he's working.
sandy
Mar 15 2009, 07:12 PM
QUOTE (Carl Spackler2 @ Mar 15 2009, 07:19 PM)

Maybe you tough guys should fine him, that will teach him a lesson.
Oh wait, he has more money than god.
What a silly comment, sounds like something my 14 year old nephew would say.
p
Jer-Jer
Mar 15 2009, 07:13 PM
Cry me a river. Who cares? He was obviously frustrated. And it's not Tiger's job to make the fans happy. He is there to win the tournament. Afterwards he is probably a really cool guy. He is focused on the task at hand and that's where he should be focused.
iskysoma01
Mar 15 2009, 07:14 PM
What a silly thread!
Jer-Jer
Mar 15 2009, 07:14 PM
QUOTE (tbowles411 @ Mar 15 2009, 08:11 PM)

Boy aren't we nitpicking? There is plenty of other things that happen on a golf course than someone dropping a putter on a green. And for heavens sake, if someone was screaming in your face when you're at work, and you didn't hear them because you were concentrating on what you had to do, would I hold it against you?
Here's a little story for you. AT&T in 2007 here in DC. Tiger nailed a guy in the crowd. Right rough. Hit him hard. He walked up to the guy, asked if he was ok, autographed his glove, snapped a picture with him and strolled off. Of course, that's not reported on ESPN or TGC. Only when he blows past someone while he's working.
+1
Ghost_Orchid
Mar 15 2009, 07:16 PM
I think he doenst acknowledge anyone because no one else is on the course. That's concentration for ya.
littlepingman
Mar 15 2009, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (iskysoma01 @ Mar 15 2009, 08:14 PM)

What a silly thread!
Cosign...
AcesAZ
Mar 15 2009, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (tbowles411 @ Mar 15 2009, 07:11 PM)

Boy aren't we nitpicking? There is plenty of other things that happen on a golf course than someone dropping a putter on a green. And for heavens sake, if someone was screaming in your face when you're at work, and you didn't hear them because you were concentrating on what you had to do, would I hold it against you?
Here's a little story for you. AT&T in 2007 here in DC. Tiger nailed a guy in the crowd. Right rough. Hit him hard. He walked up to the guy, asked if he was ok, autographed his glove, snapped a picture with him and strolled off. Of course, that's not reported on ESPN or TGC. Only when he blows past someone while he's working.
+1
Im not a Tiger fan but c'mon. Dropping the putter on the ground? Please, Ive done that before as well and it does absolutey nothing to the green. Its not like he spit in the cup.
mickeytbones
Mar 15 2009, 07:33 PM
Does anyone else but me think that the way Tiger putted this tournament may be the impetus for a Nike putter finally finding a way into his bag?
And, to the original topic, I don't think Tiger should have treated his putter or the green that way. If he had been in contention, I would somewhat understand it, but still not condone it.
tbowles411
Mar 15 2009, 07:33 PM
QUOTE (AcesAZ @ Mar 15 2009, 08:26 PM)

QUOTE (tbowles411 @ Mar 15 2009, 07:11 PM)

Boy aren't we nitpicking? There is plenty of other things that happen on a golf course than someone dropping a putter on a green. And for heavens sake, if someone was screaming in your face when you're at work, and you didn't hear them because you were concentrating on what you had to do, would I hold it against you?
Here's a little story for you. AT&T in 2007 here in DC. Tiger nailed a guy in the crowd. Right rough. Hit him hard. He walked up to the guy, asked if he was ok, autographed his glove, snapped a picture with him and strolled off. Of course, that's not reported on ESPN or TGC. Only when he blows past someone while he's working.
+1
Im not a Tiger fan but c'mon. Dropping the putter on the ground? Please, Ive done that before as well and it does absolutey nothing to the green. Its not like he spit in the cup.
+1! Unless someone wants to say that they've "seen" him do that too!
Jer-Jer
Mar 15 2009, 07:34 PM
QUOTE (mickeytbones @ Mar 15 2009, 08:33 PM)

Does anyone else but me think that the way Tiger putted this tournament may be the impetus for a Nike putter finally finding a way into his bag?
And, to the original topic, I don't think Tiger should have treated his putter or the green that way. If he had been in contention, I would somewhat understand it, but still not condone it.
Haha that putter isn't going anywhere. I guarantee you Tiger has had some worse putting weeks. And he said it's not the stroke or the putter it's him reading the greens incorrectly.
tbowles411
Mar 15 2009, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (Jer-Jer @ Mar 15 2009, 08:34 PM)

QUOTE (mickeytbones @ Mar 15 2009, 08:33 PM)

Does anyone else but me think that the way Tiger putted this tournament may be the impetus for a Nike putter finally finding a way into his bag?
And, to the original topic, I don't think Tiger should have treated his putter or the green that way. If he had been in contention, I would somewhat understand it, but still not condone it.
Haha that putter isn't going anywhere. I guarantee you Tiger has had some worse putting weeks. And he said it's not the stroke or the putter it's him reading the greens incorrectly.
His speed was good. His reads, not so much. But with the dozen lipouts, he wasn't off by much.
Jer-Jer
Mar 15 2009, 07:37 PM
QUOTE (tbowles411 @ Mar 15 2009, 08:35 PM)

QUOTE (Jer-Jer @ Mar 15 2009, 08:34 PM)

QUOTE (mickeytbones @ Mar 15 2009, 08:33 PM)

Does anyone else but me think that the way Tiger putted this tournament may be the impetus for a Nike putter finally finding a way into his bag?
And, to the original topic, I don't think Tiger should have treated his putter or the green that way. If he had been in contention, I would somewhat understand it, but still not condone it.
Haha that putter isn't going anywhere. I guarantee you Tiger has had some worse putting weeks. And he said it's not the stroke or the putter it's him reading the greens incorrectly.
His speed was good. His reads, not so much. But with the dozen lipouts, he wasn't off by much.
Tiger said himself in an interview that he felt he was hitting good putts that they just weren't taking the lines he thought they would.
HeadonaStick
Mar 15 2009, 07:38 PM
QUOTE (littlepingman @ Mar 15 2009, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (Boba @ Mar 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

You may want to change your title, people are have been banned for calling Tiger "Tigger."
That is the first thing I thought when I saw the title. I remember another member being banned for using the term "Tigger" when referring to Tiger, no exceptions should be made if the same rule is broken here.
You're kidding, aren't you? Someone got banned for calling him "Tigger?"
Jer-Jer
Mar 15 2009, 07:41 PM
QUOTE (HeadonaStick @ Mar 15 2009, 08:38 PM)

QUOTE (littlepingman @ Mar 15 2009, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (Boba @ Mar 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

You may want to change your title, people are have been banned for calling Tiger "Tigger."
That is the first thing I thought when I saw the title. I remember another member being banned for using the term "Tigger" when referring to Tiger, no exceptions should be made if the same rule is broken here.
You're kidding, aren't you? Someone got banned for calling him "Tigger?"
I'm not sure but I think the OP in this thread might have done it on accident (not sure though). The person who got banned may have/probably used it intentionally in a racist form or in another derogatory way. Just my speculation though.
hogans71
Mar 15 2009, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (HeadonaStick @ Mar 15 2009, 07:38 PM)

QUOTE (littlepingman @ Mar 15 2009, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (Boba @ Mar 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

You may want to change your title, people are have been banned for calling Tiger "Tigger."
That is the first thing I thought when I saw the title. I remember another member being banned for using the term "Tigger" when referring to Tiger, no exceptions should be made if the same rule is broken here.
You're kidding, aren't you? Someone got banned for calling him "Tigger?"
Thought the same thing, yet..
Needless to say there might a few on here a little trigger happy with the violation button.
littlepingman
Mar 15 2009, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (HeadonaStick @ Mar 15 2009, 08:38 PM)

QUOTE (littlepingman @ Mar 15 2009, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (Boba @ Mar 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

You may want to change your title, people are have been banned for calling Tiger "Tigger."
That is the first thing I thought when I saw the title. I remember another member being banned for using the term "Tigger" when referring to Tiger, no exceptions should be made if the same rule is broken here.
You're kidding, aren't you? Someone got banned for calling him "Tigger?"
QUOTE (Jer-Jer @ Mar 15 2009, 08:41 PM)

QUOTE (HeadonaStick @ Mar 15 2009, 08:38 PM)

QUOTE (littlepingman @ Mar 15 2009, 07:34 PM)

QUOTE (Boba @ Mar 15 2009, 07:20 PM)

You may want to change your title, people are have been banned for calling Tiger "Tigger."
That is the first thing I thought when I saw the title. I remember another member being banned for using the term "Tigger" when referring to Tiger, no exceptions should be made if the same rule is broken here.
You're kidding, aren't you? Someone got banned for calling him "Tigger?"
I'm not sure but I think the OP in this thread might have done it on accident (not sure though). The person who got banned may have/probably used it intentionally in a racist form or in another derogatory way. Just my speculation though.
Just for reference:
http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1431905
Pinehurst1999
Mar 15 2009, 07:42 PM
I saw the shots that everyone is talking about and my first reaction was the same as the original post. When he missed his eagle putt and reacted as he did with his putter, all I was thinking was...sucks to have to putt on that green after that. I realize that it is minute, but if someone else did it before Tiger this conversation would have a different tone.
ballshagger
Mar 15 2009, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (swing981 @ Mar 15 2009, 06:49 PM)

i know hes the god of golf..but im geting sick and tired of the antics he pulls on the course. Few yrs ago dragging putter along green and today dropping putter on green after poor baby missed his eagle. Great golfer and bad manners...by the way nice win Phil
He yet may be the best golfer in the world. He's certainly not a very good sportsman. Not like in the days of Arnie, Jack, Gary.
His antics on the greens when others still need to hole out leave something to be desired.
His use of profanity in pressure situations is deplorable.
IMO, its his least desirable trait.
dpb5031
Mar 15 2009, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (scotchblade @ Mar 15 2009, 07:01 PM)

QUOTE (OnOff @ Mar 15 2009, 07:44 PM)

Hey at least he acknowledges the crowd. When I was at Rivera on Saturday he gave me a fist pound as he walked to the 16th tee, made me feel pretty cool. When Tiger sprayed his drive on the 13th on Saturday of the 2008 US Open, I was there as he walked up to his ball. Everyone was applauding him as he walked up and he literally made eye contact with no one. Not even a head nod to acknowledge the applause. He looked through everyone as if they didn't exist. It left you feeling really insignificant. When Phil sprays one, he will ask if everyone if they are okay and I've twice heard him joke with the crowd about his short comings pertaining to driver accuracy.
That's exactly what I've seen over the years. I'll never get the Phil bashing and Tiger love. Never. I honestly do enjoy golf more without him. Thank goodness he plays so few events.
I know state troopers who provided security at a fairly recent major championship. Phil spent time talking with them and busting balls all week about the NFL and other sports. This was in the clubhouse locker room so it was behind the scenes and away from any cameras. They thought Phil was genuine and a regular guy. Tiger they said, was all business, which is fine also.
Jer-Jer
Mar 15 2009, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (ballshagger @ Mar 15 2009, 08:43 PM)

QUOTE (swing981 @ Mar 15 2009, 06:49 PM)

i know hes the god of golf..but im geting sick and tired of the antics he pulls on the course. Few yrs ago dragging putter along green and today dropping putter on green after poor baby missed his eagle. Great golfer and bad manners...by the way nice win Phil
He yet be the best golfer in the world. He's certainly not a very good sportsman. Not like in the days of Arnie, Jack, Gary.
His antics on the greens when others still need to hole out leave something to be desired.
His use of profanity in pressure situations is deplorable.
IMO, its his least desirable trait.
+1. I understand his frustration at times but the swearing all the time is too much.
tbowles411
Mar 15 2009, 07:58 PM
QUOTE (Jer-Jer @ Mar 15 2009, 08:48 PM)

QUOTE (ballshagger @ Mar 15 2009, 08:43 PM)

QUOTE (swing981 @ Mar 15 2009, 06:49 PM)

i know hes the god of golf..but im geting sick and tired of the antics he pulls on the course. Few yrs ago dragging putter along green and today dropping putter on green after poor baby missed his eagle. Great golfer and bad manners...by the way nice win Phil
He yet be the best golfer in the world. He's certainly not a very good sportsman. Not like in the days of Arnie, Jack, Gary.
His antics on the greens when others still need to hole out leave something to be desired.
His use of profanity in pressure situations is deplorable.
IMO, its his least desirable trait.
+1. I understand his frustration at times but the swearing all the time is too much.
Now that I'll agree to. I can live without the potty mouth.
MCCA
Mar 15 2009, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (iskysoma01 @ Mar 15 2009, 08:14 PM)

What a silly thread!
I agree Who give s Sh***t

, people are so quick to micro manage every detail these pros do.
osubass1
Mar 15 2009, 08:08 PM
swing981,
where's your equivalent post for Nick slamming his wedge in the sand?
i think i may have missed it.
can you just post the link here so i can find it easier?
mlamar
Mar 15 2009, 08:29 PM
It's hard being on top ... Can you imagine cameras clicking ... Cameras rolling ... taking your
ever movement ... It's hard being on top
BTW ... Geoff Oglivy had some harsh words yesterday on his approach shot into the #1 green
That was profanity 101
They all do it ... Tiger's remarks/antics are magnified enormously
2659edward
Mar 15 2009, 08:31 PM
QUOTE (Bones01gt @ Mar 15 2009, 07:29 PM)

QUOTE (montanza @ Mar 15 2009, 07:15 PM)

Ya I'm with you on that, and what's with the spitting. No class. Never saw Jack or Hogan flinging a big greeny. If he doesn't make the putts , he's middle of the road player. But can spit better than the others
I guarantee Jack and Ben have hocked some loogies in thier day...GUARANTEED! Check the Nicklaus museum in Columbus, they probably have one of them in a jar somewhere!
Middle of the road? Tiger was nearly last in putting and still finished in the top 25% of the field. I don't know the stats, but I would be willing to bet that whoever was one position ahead of him in putting was nowhere near him on the leaderboard.
I saw a graphic after yesterday's round for Tiger. He hads birde putter on 75% of the holes. And how many
lip outs did he have on Monday. There is lots of ifs...
QUOTE (Leftygolfin @ Mar 15 2009, 07:31 PM)

I think everyones a little unfair here. Every move Tiger makes is on camera. Everyone acts up a little on the course they just aren't filmed constantly. Tigers real on the course in my opinion. Its better then Phils fake humbleness if you ask me.

I saw Watney and Phil both have "bad" moments, it happens. There are more cameras on these guys
than ever before. I personally don't want robots out there. For every fist pump there ought to be a thrown club!
On a final note great show today!! Thanks to Nick and Phil.
minitour
Mar 15 2009, 11:55 PM
He should be DQ'd for tossing his putter down.
Now, had he taken his clothes off to hit the putt, that would be a different story.
Get real, people.
-mini
StaffBag
Mar 16 2009, 12:31 AM
Don't worry!
I'm sure that since it was caught on TV that he will be fined by the TOUR for minor conduct unbecoming. However Nick Watney was also sure whacking the bunkers pretty good showing frustration!
We will never know because the tour doesn't comment on player discipline. However, since Tiger is always on TV (they've even shown him walking to the porto-johns) I'm sure that he either pays a lump in advance for fines or he is cut som major slack by the tour.
That being said..... he probably should not have thrown the putter grip down on the green since there were groups behind him. He's usually in the last group and doesn't have to worry about other players. They never did show if he fixed any marks he may have made.
Golf_Beauty
Mar 16 2009, 12:42 AM
I have two questions:
1) Would a ball flying in from 100 yards make more of a pitch mark than the flipping of his putter?
2) Were any of you there, if his putter did make a mark, to see if he fixed it? Because of course the camera footage moved on.
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