Hi guys. I know there are several threads floating around about the course. Some guys rave about it and others don't.

If it was <$100 to play there, I'd be all over it. At the $200+ green fees, I can't get myself to pull the trigger.

What other alternatives in the area that meet this criteria:

1. Fast pace of play
2. Immaculate shape with manicured fairways, tee boxes, and greens
3. Awesome practice facility with grass tees.
4. Near Torrey Pines Hilton

thanks guys.

$200??? Twilight rates are $96 and with the time change it should be no problem getting in 18.

what kind of course are you looking for? and price range?