golferhawaii
Feb 23 2009, 01:54 AM
did i see what i thought i saw?!?!?!
I myself wear JL all the time, but is Phil now wearing it?! That blue shirt at Riviera had to be lindeberg!!!
anyone else notice?
fish
Feb 23 2009, 02:00 AM
I didn't catch phils shirt but I have not had the best success with JL gear and I am not as big as Phil... Most of my shirts are XL and It was almost impossible to find a JL shirt that wasn't cut small. Anything is possible though.
Fish
joshvoigt
Feb 23 2009, 08:04 AM
i think thats actually a callaway shirt he was wearing. they have to catch up to JL like many other brands. The rep said they had some new apparel. I think its Callaway for sure. Thats what Phil wore all of last year anyways.
Ace In The Hole
Feb 23 2009, 08:20 AM
You can clearly see the Callaway on the sleeve
randrews581
Feb 23 2009, 09:21 AM
I also see a Barclay's logo on his chest, by your logic maybe it was them who designed it (j/k). I'm curious though, does anyone else think that Phil's shirts are dreadful, like perhaps the worst on tour? I really like Lefty, but I absolutely hate the way he dresses. His shirts are too tight, the color blocking on the multi-colored ones don't do anything for me, and why for the love of God is that Callaway logo on his left sleeve facing forward and not to the side?
joshvoigt
Feb 23 2009, 09:42 AM
I agree he needs to wear a bigger shirt. I like the solid colors but Callaway makes some of the ugliest apparel in the game! The retail shirts are even worse! Yuck
Titleist1455
Feb 23 2009, 10:09 AM
whatever they are (JL or Callaway) they are some of the ugliest shirts i've ever seen.
First of all, there's 4 buttons, and Phil buttons up the 3rd button and it looks like he's choking himself. Then, the collar on the shirt looks like a "popped collar", but really, it's just THAT big of a collar. Oh yeah, and for some reason Phil thinks he wears a Medium or a Large, when really he needs an XL (at least!)
Tmiller72
Feb 23 2009, 10:10 AM
If Callaway makes his shirts then why isn't their V logo on the back like every Callaway shirt that I've seen and owned? Wouldn't Callaway want the advertsing for their clothes? Ever since his Hugo Boss deal ended, it seems like he's never had an official clothing deal.
Golfer1016
Feb 23 2009, 10:18 AM
I say more power to Phil. Im sorry but XXXXL shirts with sleeves to your forearms just are not in any more, and its disgusting that they ever were. Id rather see Phil wear a shirt that fits him fairly well like the ones he has been wearing recently. The fact is that while Phil is not in perfect physical condition, he is just not that out of shape either. I like the white belt too Phil, let the haters hate.
Marrrk
Feb 23 2009, 10:29 AM
i'm almost embarrassed to say this, but i would like phil better if he dressed more similarly to his style of play. loosen it up a bit, maybe johnny miller circa 1973. ok, maybe not that, but phil is a laid-back west-coast dude, i think his occasional flakiness and mistakes would be a bit easier to stomach if he didn't always come off so... conservative and techy? especially with those awful half fist pumps and the sheepish way he acknowledges the crowd. loosen up!
i dont know, he's winning bigger tourneys, but he's not as fun to watch as he used to be in the 90s. just my two cents about a player i used to love, and now just like.
Ace In The Hole
Feb 23 2009, 10:43 AM
QUOTE (randrews581 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:21 AM)

I also see a Barclay's logo on his chest, by your logic maybe it was them who designed it (j/k). I'm curious though, does anyone else think that Phil's shirts are dreadful, like perhaps the worst on tour? I really like Lefty, but I absolutely hate the way he dresses. His shirts are too tight, the color blocking on the multi-colored ones don't do anything for me, and why for the love of God is that Callaway logo on his left sleeve facing forward and not to the side?
I would be quite suprized at a company that has a clothing line to see them put their logo on another designers shirt, as far as I know Barclay's does not have a clothing line, so I would think my logic on the logo is quite sound.
I agree with someone who posted that they would like to see Phil do something fun and loosen it up like a retro look or something, for a guy who was suppose to be a young blood in the sport, and change the game, he sure didn't take advantage of that attention to be a trend setter in the clothing dept.
I must say though his shirts now are much better that the ones he wore three four years ago that has sleeve that looked like they were 3/4 length!
Marrrk
Feb 23 2009, 10:57 AM
QUOTE (Ace In The Hole @ Feb 23 2009, 10:43 AM)

I must say though his shirts now are much better that the ones he wore three four years ago that has sleeve that looked like they were 3/4 length!
true that.
Tmiller72
Feb 23 2009, 11:14 AM
Phil's small shirts are better than Hal's shirt.
GatorBait
Feb 23 2009, 11:35 AM
I believe they may be Hugo Boss shirts. He's been wearing shirts from that company since he started out on Tour. I could be wrong though...
Tmiller72
Feb 23 2009, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (GatorBait @ Feb 23 2009, 11:35 AM)

I believe they may be Hugo Boss shirts. He's been wearing shirts from that company since he started out on Tour. I could be wrong though...
He wore Fairway Blues before Hugo Boss.
Titleist1455
Feb 23 2009, 01:10 PM
QUOTE (Tmiller72 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:14 AM)

Phil's small shirts are better than Hal's shirt.

Yes, Phil's shirt is "better" than Hal's, but that doesn't mean that it looks good. I'm not suggesting for Phil to wear a shirt like Hal's (by any means), just wear something that fits...not WAY too big and not WAY too small.
Phil = WAY too small
Tiger = correct size shirt
demetri17
Feb 23 2009, 02:33 PM
just to point out tigers shirt is a larger shirt in the first picture. the one with his baby is a smaller shirt.
Fore_Man
Feb 23 2009, 02:36 PM
not sure what shirts he's wearing, but i am not a big fan of the collar... i don't think he looks right with a white belt... and it looked like his sleeves were riding up his armpits...
what ever happened to normal polo shirts and khakis? is this all just a marketing ploy to get us all to buy more clothes?
Golfer1016
Feb 23 2009, 02:47 PM
My problem with khakis and normal polos is that next to everyone wears them, its boring, and old. Also in my opinion you cant really compare those two pictures, as Phil is in his thru-swing, so of course his sleeves are going to ride up. I do understand how more overweight people would prefer more subtle cuts and colors but the fact is Phil is really not that out of shape. I still think Tigers shirt could fit him better, in my opinion the "shoulder seem" shouldn't begin to run down the arm, as tigers does.
Titleist1455
Feb 23 2009, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (Golfer1016 @ Feb 23 2009, 01:47 PM)

My problem with khakis and normal polos is that next to everyone wears them, its boring, and old. Also in my opinion you cant really compare those two pictures, as Phil is in his thru-swing, so of course his sleeves are going to ride up. I do understand how more overweight people would prefer more subtle cuts and colors but the fact is Phil is really not that out of shape. I still think Tigers shirt could fit him better, in my opinion the "shoulder seem" shouldn't begin to run down the arm, as tigers does.
agree to disagree...especially if you're trying to tell me that Tiger's shirt doesn't fit him (in the picture with his little girl)
not EVERYBODY that wears a certain size shirt has the same width shoulders, therefore every shoulder seam is going to be a little bit different...and by your logic (and this picture below), you're essentially saying Phill should get an even SMALLER shirt!?!?!
liongolf_ike
Feb 23 2009, 04:35 PM
I think the shirts are great too. Too many people dont understand style, and that the big sleeves, baggy pants, and oversized everything is out and no the norm any more. Look at all the trends on tour, minus the champions tour, and you will see this. No need to fight over it, its just the truth, golf is more style concious than ever before and its great. Look at guys like TA3 (Travis Mathew apparel), Phil (with whatever it is), Tiger (nike), Camillo (JL), Geoff Ogilvy (Puma), i mean those are nice styles.
Golfer1016
Feb 23 2009, 04:47 PM
I wasn't speaking about size, thats why I said Tigers shirt could fit him better and not Tiger needs a smaller shirt. In my opinion, ideally the shoulder seem should not run down the arm, rather staying "on top" of the shoulder. Sure Phils shirt could fit better as well, but I really dont see very much wrong in the picture above, looks pretty sharp to me. Bones is the one that needs the help here, haha. I think the only thing that makes his shirts seem small is the sleeve length, which most of us are not used to, at least with Phil. Some like the shorter sleeves (me) and others dont, no big deal. I just really hope the days of way oversized shirts like Tigers and Hals in the first picture are long gone, because they make me want to yack a little(are you wearing a bed sheet or a golf shirt??). Its just my opinion tho. Anyway I like Phils more recent shirts, hes not in perfect physical shape but it just goes to show that you dont have to be to pull off well tailored/fitting clothes and other semi-flashy items like his white belt.
obsessedgolfer
Feb 23 2009, 05:35 PM
QUOTE (Ace In The Hole @ Feb 23 2009, 08:20 AM)

You can clearly see the Callaway on the sleeve

Yes you can see callaway but it is just a JL shirt stamped callaway
steverum
Feb 23 2009, 05:47 PM
I think Phil has lost some weight over the last year and is wearing a smaller cut shirt. He is throwing in some white belts and stuff which makes you think JL but with what Callaway is paying Phil, I doubt he would admit he is wearing anything other than Callaway. I think his style is improving, but it needs to evolve. I think some color besides navy and black might help
west coast duffer
Feb 23 2009, 06:09 PM
Gotta give him credit though, he is getting better. He definitely needs more color. I always see the same black, blues, and greys.
Redman
Feb 23 2009, 07:26 PM
I actually liked the shirt Phil was wearing yesterday. That is certainly not typical for me. So if it is JL shirts, what about the pants. They don't really look like JL.
Lefty Cat
Feb 23 2009, 07:51 PM
I dont have any problem with the subtle colors Phil chooses mainly because that's what he's always worn. You dont expect him to show up in a lime polo and melon trousers. My main problem is with the size of the polo. It doesnt need to stick to him. I can relate to him though because a few years back when I lost a ton of weight, I felt like I needed to wear a smallish shirt to show the hardwork I had put in. Before long, I was wearing medium polo's at 6'2 195. I was that guy

. Phil needs to realize everyone knows hes put in the hard work and lost weight, but the the shirt doesn't have to look like its painted on. It
cant be comfortable.
RRyders88
Feb 23 2009, 09:03 PM
omg, i'm gonna go crazy at people claiming this shirt is JL, and that a white belt makes you think JL. I am a JL enthusiast and i can guarantee you that that is not a lindeberg shirt.
The fact is, it could very well be Callaway Japan clothing as well, their stuff is more edgy and thats what Howell used to have to wear because it was he only size small enough for his frame. How can I explain this so that each of you get it....the exclusivity of tour equipment does not stop at drivers. You cannot go to the store and get an Adidas shirt or even more drastic, Adidas pants that fit like they do on Sergio or Justin Rose. Pattern may be the same, but the fit is not. They put bigger logos on them for tv, and tailor them specifically for the player. Same thing with Callaway shirts I presume....Phil doesn't desire the XXXL look the callaway retail clothes have...so they custom make his with his sponsors on it, and guess what, a bigger Callaway logo! Same with the big hugo boss logoes on Stenson, same with the tighter fit of Tiger's actual shirts rather than the retail ones. I'm just trying to inform people, not be a dick, so that i don't have to hear that every glimpse of a white belt, or a bigger collared shirt HAS to be JL cause just nobody else could do that.
Had to get that off my chest.
Johnny
Feb 23 2009, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 06:03 PM)

omg, i'm gonna go crazy at people claiming this shirt is JL, and that a white belt makes you think JL. I am a JL enthusiast and i can guarantee you that that is not a lindeberg shirt.
The fact is, it could very well be Callaway Japan clothing as well, their stuff is more edgy and thats what Howell used to have to wear because it was he only size small enough for his frame. How can I explain this so that each of you get it....the exclusivity of tour equipment does not stop at drivers. You cannot go to the store and get an Adidas shirt or even more drastic, Adidas pants that fit like they do on Sergio or Justin Rose. Pattern may be the same, but the fit is not. They put bigger logos on them for tv, and tailor them specifically for the player. Same thing with Callaway shirts I presume....Phil doesn't desire the XXXL look the callaway retail clothes have...so they custom make his with his sponsors on it, and guess what, a bigger Callaway logo! Same with the big hugo boss logoes on Stenson, same with the tighter fit of Tiger's actual shirts rather than the retail ones. I'm just trying to inform people, not be a dick, so that i don't have to hear that every glimpse of a white belt, or a bigger collared shirt HAS to be JL cause just nobody else could do that.
Had to get that off my chest.
easy there.. are you upset a slightly overweight late 30's guy is wearing JL. I know he's not, but you shouldn't get upset even if he was. What difference does it make ? really ! I could tell you JL would love for Phil to be wearing their stuff, better then Timberlake.
RRyders88
Feb 23 2009, 09:21 PM
i'm not upset if he was....u totally didn't get my point. its the fact that he's not but people assume he is because its tight, that i felt the need to set the record straight. and knowing the business practices of JL, they would not love for Phil to wear their clothes.
Johnny
Feb 23 2009, 09:34 PM
QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 06:21 PM)

i'm not upset if he was....u totally didn't get my point. its the fact that he's not but people assume he is because its tight, that i felt the need to set the record straight. and knowing the business practices of JL, they would not love for Phil to wear their clothes.
I know he's not and I mentioned that fact... indeed JL shirts are a little tight around the arms for people that have some biceps..I wear XXL mainly because of the neck, lats and arms.. I can wear XL, but then I look like Phil .
I disagree.. Phil would not be bad exposure.(right now anyways). John Daly would.
Lefty Cat
Feb 23 2009, 09:45 PM
Tigers shirts look like they have a tighter fit because he's really that big. Your crazy if you think there is some kind of conspiracy on tour for tighter shirts...get real.
Tmiller72
Feb 23 2009, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 09:21 PM)

i'm not upset if he was....u totally didn't get my point. its the fact that he's not but people assume he is because its tight, that i felt the need to set the record straight. and knowing the business practices of JL, they would not love for Phil to wear their clothes.
What business practices would that be? That only skinny people can wear their clothes? What clothing company would not want one of the most popular golfers in the world to wear their clothes? If anything they might be able to expose their brand to a lot more people if someone like Phil wore their clothes.
And thanks for the "How can I explain this so that each of you get it" condescending attitude. Nobody meant to diss your brand by suggesting that Phil may or may not be wearing their shirts.
Johnny
Feb 23 2009, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (Tmiller72 @ Feb 23 2009, 06:46 PM)

QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 09:21 PM)

i'm not upset if he was....u totally didn't get my point. its the fact that he's not but people assume he is because its tight, that i felt the need to set the record straight. and knowing the business practices of JL, they would not love for Phil to wear their clothes.
What business practices would that be? That only skinny people can wear their clothes? What clothing company would not want one of the most popular golfers in the world to wear their clothes? If anything they might be able to expose their brand to a lot more people if someone like Phil wore their clothes.
And thanks for the "How can I explain this so that each of you get it" condescending attitude. Nobody meant to diss your brand by suggesting that Phil may or may not be wearing their shirts.
+1
they do make XXXL too... so if they didn't want to sell it, why would they make it. I want to see your MBA thesis on JL business practices too.
Tmiller72
Feb 23 2009, 10:11 PM
They make XXXL? Nice, I might just buy some JL now.
msn2310
Feb 23 2009, 10:24 PM
If Callaway is trying to introduce a new line of clothing with updated styles and cuts, they are doing a bad job in showcasing Mickelson on national tv as their model. There are certain people who wear clothes well and Phil sadly is not one of them. They need to lengthen his sleeves a tad and let some shirt out in the sides and middle, not baggy but make it a little more flattering on him. He looks like a late 30's early 40's guy trying to dress like a teenager. To me it screams "trying to hard."
JL would never sign a Phil Mickelson type body as one of their representatives no matter how huge of a star they were on tour. They want the 5'10" to 6 ft 165-175lb tour player wearing their clothes because that is who they are made for. Anyone wearing JL who does not fit that body type is just fooling themselves and wasting a ton of money. Sadly I know first hand, I am 6'3" tall and weigh 195lbs, fairly fit and toned and it looked stupid on me and I felt like I was wearing a tank top with the sleeves being so short.
Phil should really sign with Tommy Bahama or Polo.
psygolf
Feb 23 2009, 10:46 PM
QUOTE (Johnny @ Feb 23 2009, 10:51 PM)

QUOTE (Tmiller72 @ Feb 23 2009, 06:46 PM)

QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 09:21 PM)

i'm not upset if he was....u totally didn't get my point. its the fact that he's not but people assume he is because its tight, that i felt the need to set the record straight. and knowing the business practices of JL, they would not love for Phil to wear their clothes.
What business practices would that be? That only skinny people can wear their clothes? What clothing company would not want one of the most popular golfers in the world to wear their clothes? If anything they might be able to expose their brand to a lot more people if someone like Phil wore their clothes.
And thanks for the "How can I explain this so that each of you get it" condescending attitude. Nobody meant to diss your brand by suggesting that Phil may or may not be wearing their shirts.
+1
they do make XXXL too... so if they didn't want to sell it, why would they make it. I want to see your MBA thesis on JL business practices too.

-1
Considering the size is less than 1% of the shirts they have in inventory, I think it can be considered an after thought & not part of their busuness plan.
Johnny
Feb 23 2009, 10:51 PM
QUOTE (msn2310 @ Feb 23 2009, 07:24 PM)

If Callaway is trying to introduce a new line of clothing with updated styles and cuts, they are doing a bad job in showcasing Mickelson on national tv as their model. There are certain people who wear clothes well and Phil sadly is not one of them. They need to lengthen his sleeves a tad and let some shirt out in the sides and middle, not baggy but make it a little more flattering on him. He looks like a late 30's early 40's guy trying to dress like a teenager. To me it screams "trying to hard."
JL would never sign a Phil Mickelson type body as one of their representatives no matter how huge of a star they were on tour. They want the 5'10" to 6 ft 165-175lb tour player wearing their clothes because that is who they are made for. Anyone wearing JL who does not fit that body type is just fooling themselves and wasting a ton of money. Sadly I know first hand, I am 6'3" tall and weigh 195lbs, fairly fit and toned and it looked stupid on me and I felt like I was wearing a tank top with the sleeves being so short.
Phil should really sign with Tommy Bahama or Polo.
for the most part I agree with you.. I think I have to be 60 before I wear TB..if ever. I dont like their stuff. Now Polo I could wear, but not that huge emblem stuff they have out now.
Tmiller72
Feb 23 2009, 10:57 PM
QUOTE (msn2310 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:24 PM)

Phil should really sign with Tommy Bahama.
And sign a deal with The Villages too?
Redman
Feb 23 2009, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 09:03 PM)

omg, i'm gonna go crazy at people claiming this shirt is JL, and that a white belt makes you think JL. I am a JL enthusiast and i can guarantee you that that is not a lindeberg shirt.
The fact is, it could very well be Callaway Japan clothing as well, their stuff is more edgy and thats what Howell used to have to wear because it was he only size small enough for his frame. How can I explain this so that each of you get it....the exclusivity of tour equipment does not stop at drivers. You cannot go to the store and get an Adidas shirt or even more drastic, Adidas pants that fit like they do on Sergio or Justin Rose. Pattern may be the same, but the fit is not. They put bigger logos on them for tv, and tailor them specifically for the player. Same thing with Callaway shirts I presume....Phil doesn't desire the XXXL look the callaway retail clothes have...so they custom make his with his sponsors on it, and guess what, a bigger Callaway logo! Same with the big hugo boss logoes on Stenson, same with the tighter fit of Tiger's actual shirts rather than the retail ones. I'm just trying to inform people, not be a dick, so that i don't have to hear that every glimpse of a white belt, or a bigger collared shirt HAS to be JL cause just nobody else could do that.
Had to get that off my chest.
So you are saying that you think Phil is wearing JL clothing and that he would be a great player to have wearing it based on their "business" practices that you are so in tune with?
Ace In The Hole
Feb 23 2009, 11:54 PM
QUOTE (msn2310 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:24 PM)

If Callaway is trying to introduce a new line of clothing with updated styles and cuts, they are doing a bad job in showcasing Mickelson on national tv as their model. There are certain people who wear clothes well and Phil sadly is not one of them. They need to lengthen his sleeves a tad and let some shirt out in the sides and middle, not baggy but make it a little more flattering on him. He looks like a late 30's early 40's guy trying to dress like a teenager. To me it screams "trying to hard."
JL would never sign a Phil Mickelson type body as one of their representatives no matter how huge of a star they were on tour. They want the 5'10" to 6 ft 165-175lb tour player wearing their clothes because that is who they are made for. Anyone wearing JL who does not fit that body type is just fooling themselves and wasting a ton of money. Sadly I know first hand, I am 6'3" tall and weigh 195lbs, fairly fit and toned and it looked stupid on me and I felt like I was wearing a tank top with the sleeves being so short.
Phil should really sign with Tommy Bahama or Polo.
Haha I couldn't agree more with the JL stuff seeing some guys trying to pull it off and it looks awful, I'm 6'2" 230-240ish and I like to look good, and that doesn't mean going out and buying the most expensive designer golf shirts. JL does not fit me, even Polo is to short in the torso, I know what looks good on me, and I stick to it, Adidas, Antigua these are my staples.
I think Steve Stricker is a guy who knows his limitations and wears clothes that make him look good. Not everyone needs to stand out, and not everyone can pull off the painted on look.
The smartest dresser on tour without looking like they are trying to look flashy is by far and away Adam Scott, how he does without his Burberry backing will be the true test to his style this year.
O and by the way no one should wear Tommy Bahama, unless you want to look like Jim Furyk....Yikes, bowling anyone?
JA5ON
Feb 23 2009, 11:56 PM
QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:03 PM)

omg, i'm gonna go crazy at people claiming this shirt is JL, and that a white belt makes you think JL. I am a JL enthusiast and i can guarantee you that that is not a lindeberg shirt.
The fact is, it could very well be Callaway Japan clothing as well, their stuff is more edgy and thats what Howell used to have to wear because it was he only size small enough for his frame. How can I explain this so that each of you get it....the exclusivity of tour equipment does not stop at drivers. You cannot go to the store and get an Adidas shirt or even more drastic, Adidas pants that fit like they do on Sergio or Justin Rose. Pattern may be the same, but the fit is not. They put bigger logos on them for tv, and tailor them specifically for the player. Same thing with Callaway shirts I presume....Phil doesn't desire the XXXL look the callaway retail clothes have...so they custom make his with his sponsors on it, and guess what, a bigger Callaway logo! Same with the big hugo boss logoes on Stenson, same with the tighter fit of Tiger's actual shirts rather than the retail ones. I'm just trying to inform people, not be a dick, so that i don't have to hear that every glimpse of a white belt, or a bigger collared shirt HAS to be JL cause just nobody else could do that.
Had to get that off my chest.
you would be in tears if you saw JL play golf, he came out during last years tour event and was stayin at a house on our course and he showed up with this super skinny tall blonde guy with hair like Fabio and they were both super nice guys but I dont think they have ever swung a golf club.
RRyders88
Feb 24 2009, 12:01 AM
QUOTE (Redman @ Feb 23 2009, 11:34 PM)

QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 09:03 PM)

omg, i'm gonna go crazy at people claiming this shirt is JL, and that a white belt makes you think JL. I am a JL enthusiast and i can guarantee you that that is not a lindeberg shirt.
The fact is, it could very well be Callaway Japan clothing as well, their stuff is more edgy and thats what Howell used to have to wear because it was he only size small enough for his frame. How can I explain this so that each of you get it....the exclusivity of tour equipment does not stop at drivers. You cannot go to the store and get an Adidas shirt or even more drastic, Adidas pants that fit like they do on Sergio or Justin Rose. Pattern may be the same, but the fit is not. They put bigger logos on them for tv, and tailor them specifically for the player. Same thing with Callaway shirts I presume....Phil doesn't desire the XXXL look the callaway retail clothes have...so they custom make his with his sponsors on it, and guess what, a bigger Callaway logo! Same with the big hugo boss logoes on Stenson, same with the tighter fit of Tiger's actual shirts rather than the retail ones. I'm just trying to inform people, not be a dick, so that i don't have to hear that every glimpse of a white belt, or a bigger collared shirt HAS to be JL cause just nobody else could do that.
Had to get that off my chest.
So you are saying that you think Phil is wearing JL clothing and that he would be a great player to have wearing it based on their "business" practices that you are so in tune with?
Where in the hell did i say that i think he IS wearing JL?
As for my MBA thesis on their business practices, when did i mention that? I am just a follower of JL and knowing that their cuts target a very specific market, and the very damn basis that Johan built the company off of after leaving Diesel, they have an image, and Phil doesn't pertain to it. What is so hard to understand about that?
Also, I didn't say there is some conspiracy about clothes on tour, its not a conspiracy its rather plain to see. Go try on a pair of climacool pants and tell me why they don't look tailored like Sergio's and Rose's?
If you don't believe that they don't want someone like Phil advertising for them, look at their past players? Its a niche company, their reluctance to oversaturate the North American market with the stuff shows enough that they don't have the desire to have a player like Phil when they have one like Camilo.
Charles Howell III, Richard S Johnson, Fredrik Jacobson, Jesper Parnevik, Hank Kuehne, Aaron Baddeley, Camilo....these players have all been sponsored and they are all the relative same body type with Freddy being a bit taller.
Once again, I just wanted to explain it, i even said i didnt wanna come off sounding like a dick, i just didnt know how to get the point across that the cuts and styles you see on tour are not always the same as retail.
JA5ON
Feb 24 2009, 12:04 AM
Phil's aligator shoes and belt are worth more than any JL items so im pretty sure he went with a high line company, hell I bet his slacks are 300 a pair
RRyders88
Feb 24 2009, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (JA5ON @ Feb 23 2009, 11:56 PM)

QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 10:03 PM)

omg, i'm gonna go crazy at people claiming this shirt is JL, and that a white belt makes you think JL. I am a JL enthusiast and i can guarantee you that that is not a lindeberg shirt.
The fact is, it could very well be Callaway Japan clothing as well, their stuff is more edgy and thats what Howell used to have to wear because it was he only size small enough for his frame. How can I explain this so that each of you get it....the exclusivity of tour equipment does not stop at drivers. You cannot go to the store and get an Adidas shirt or even more drastic, Adidas pants that fit like they do on Sergio or Justin Rose. Pattern may be the same, but the fit is not. They put bigger logos on them for tv, and tailor them specifically for the player. Same thing with Callaway shirts I presume....Phil doesn't desire the XXXL look the callaway retail clothes have...so they custom make his with his sponsors on it, and guess what, a bigger Callaway logo! Same with the big hugo boss logoes on Stenson, same with the tighter fit of Tiger's actual shirts rather than the retail ones. I'm just trying to inform people, not be a dick, so that i don't have to hear that every glimpse of a white belt, or a bigger collared shirt HAS to be JL cause just nobody else could do that.
Had to get that off my chest.
you would be in tears if you saw JL play golf, he came out during last years tour event and was stayin at a house on our course and he showed up with this super skinny tall blonde guy with hair like Fabio and they were both super nice guys but I dont think they have ever swung a golf club.
I've heard that...but also heard that he started the company for his love of the game, but disgust with the way golfers dress. Could've very well just wanted to make some money haha.
RRyders88
Feb 24 2009, 12:07 AM
QUOTE (JA5ON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:04 AM)

Phil's aligator shoes and belt are worth more than any JL items so im pretty sure he went with a high line company, hell I bet his slacks are 300 a pair
I bet his belt is HOF, but noticed he is wearing the new Tour Authentic Callway shoes... about $200 CDN here, i think 190 US.
Ace In The Hole
Feb 24 2009, 12:08 AM
QUOTE (JA5ON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:04 AM)

Phil's aligator shoes and belt are worth more than any JL items so im pretty sure he went with a high line company, hell I bet his slacks are 300 a pair
No doubt they are, I doubt Phil knows what a $60 pair of slacks feel like, he has led a privleged life, and has made the most of it, but we all know that money doesn't always make it look good, like someone else had said earlier Phil just doesn't have a great body type, nothing really looks that great on him that's just the way it is sometimes. O and it doesn't help that he wears his pants about an inch and a half to short on the cuff.....the flood is coming!
JA5ON
Feb 24 2009, 12:09 AM
QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 24 2009, 01:07 AM)

QUOTE (JA5ON @ Feb 24 2009, 12:04 AM)

Phil's aligator shoes and belt are worth more than any JL items so im pretty sure he went with a high line company, hell I bet his slacks are 300 a pair
I bet his belt is HOF, but noticed he is wearing the new Tour Authentic Callway shoes... about $200 CDN here, i think 190 US.
I have the brown tour authentic shoes and they are not the same, Phils aligator footjoys are like 900 bucks
RRyders88
Feb 24 2009, 12:14 AM
well i saw him wearing these earlier.
http://shop.callawaygolf.com/Apparel-Footw...xotic_Chev.htmlwhatever they are, they are callaway, not footjoys.
TuffKukae
Feb 24 2009, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (RRyders88 @ Feb 23 2009, 11:14 PM)

So he probably has a couple less pairs then Poulter. Whats your point ? he wears shoes that only cost $190. Boo hoo for him.
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