I'm baffled! Why on earth would they let him compete?

http://msn.foxsports.com/golf/story/897900...P&GT1=39002


Should not be allowed in my opinion....

Maybe he was a little guy!    Yeah, for long drive, thats not really fair.  However, if Wie can play in PGA Tour events, men should be allowed to play LPGA events.  I know it would look silly, but that's what I think about letting Wie play PGA events, it's silly.....

Why?

The LPGA is specifically for women. Men are forbidden from competition by the rules of the organization. The PGA is for any golfer who can qualify (or gain an exemption). It is not a man's tour and the only limits placed by the rules are based on ability.

Now, if you want to debate whether or not Wie should be given exemptions, that's another can of worms all together.

Please don't turn this into a Michelle post.....

This is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!

I think your argument is a little unreasonable. Men and women are different, there is a reason why there is an lpga separate from the pga; pga tournaments often have stiffer competition and tougher setups. The difference between a pga pro playing on the lpga vs. a lpga pro playing on the pga is like a 19 year old playing on the U15 team vs. a 14 year old playing on the U20 team or something to that extent. I don't think wie should be able to join a pga tour event with the clap of her hands, but if she earns her way onto a pga tour event, more power to her- she earned it.

Fair enough.  They should make it men only in that case.  Also in that case, if the LD contest was NOT specified women only, then I guess he can make some easy $$$$....  lol

 Im not saying I would, but I guess he was figuring otherwise...

Was it Barney Frank?

Uh 254 into 40 mph winds... pretty good.

1. Men don't need a separate competition. If they want one, I don't have an issue with that but most "men's" events such as PGA, MLB, NFL etc. are not men only leagues and/or events. Men are just the only ones able to compete at those levels. Women, on the other hand, normally enjoy separate competition for the same reason juniors do - they are at a disadvantage size and strength wise to men. On average anyway.

2. In this case, the long drive competition is defined as women only. The problem is defining what a woman is! Men who go through a full sex change and take hormone therapy loose most, if not all of, the muscle advantages that men normally enjoy. That said, they don't loose height, which might provide advantages.

3. As an aside, the European LPGA has a rule that states a player must be "born" a female to play. That has been challenged, but I admit, I don't care enough to have followed the challenge to see the outcome.

The only thing I'll say, is I'm glad I'm not the one trying to sort this mess out...

Hilarious!  lol I didnt even THINK about someone getting a sex change and competing.  I guess it was an issue over there, since they had to make a provision for "born female".   

Turns out it is not just the ELPGA.

This is an older article but it discusses the topic.

" The LPGA Tour, U.S. Golf Association and the Ladies European Tour have policies that players must be female at birth.

The reason for that restriction was Charlotte Wood, a transsexual who was 50 when she finished third in the 1987 U.S. Senior Women's Amateur, and reached the semifinals of the U.S. Women's Mid-Amateur.

The USGA put the "female at birth" clause in its entry forms in 1989, while the LPGA Tour added the restriction in 1991."

DUDE......




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If anyone remembers Brian Kontak from Big Break Mesquite, he tried to qualify for the US Womens Open.

They didn't allow it, but he sure as heck was gonna try.

That's a weird news story, but he/she apparently has had the full surgery and gets tested to prove his/her hormones are within tolerable levels. I doubt that someone would change their gender solely to compete in women's LD events. Their career earnings probably wouldn't touch the surgery costs and he/she will get tested and ridiculed on every stop. You'd have to really want to compete to put yourself though that.

I have no issues with girls or guys crossing lines as long as there isn't an advantage present. Same with illness, missing limbs, whatever. I don't even buy into the fact that all these guys from the hooters tour could walk on and dominate on the LPGA. If a guy really pushed hard enough, they could get themself a slot in an event. The only problem is a girl missing the cut on the PGA tour is still a big accomplishment, while a guy missing the cut on the LPGA would be a laughing stock.

This is 110% NOT true !

Mianne Bagger is a full member of the Ladies European Tour - she used to be a man, just like the guy/lady in the long drive competition used to be

See links:
http://www.ladieseuropeantour.info/profiles/120149.htm

Mianne Baggers website in English:
http://www.miannegolf.com/index.htm

Mianne Bagger - Full LET member - used to be a man:

this man is rediculous.... Men can be built way bigger and stronger than women. look at the Nba vs. The wnba. long drive is not as much a skill as stroke play golf. it doesn't matter how good your form unless you are strong enough to hit it far. That is why you dont see 140 pounder's in the Mens finals. look at almost any track and field event. No women will ever be as fast as strong or jump as high or far as the elite men. The fact that they allow it is stupid........... Insurance companies insure a sex based on birth. I dont care what the hormone levels are now the person was grow as a man.....

If you are willing to have the "boys" removed, then you should be exempt from the masters. JMO

But it was 120% true before it was challenged. I told you I didn't know how the challenge ended - apparently it ended in a rule change. Thanks for ruining my surprise at the ending to that story...

little guy? he was like 6'2 and 250 and a swat team member police officer

A little common sense goes along way. Too often we need rules or laws to state what should be obvious. It is like the good samaritan that is getting sued by his co-worker after the former pulled her out of a car after an accident. She is paralyzed, which is unfortunate for sure, he says he pulled her out because he was afraid the car was going to catch on fire, she said she would have been better if he did nothing. 20/20 hindsight if you ask me. I wonder if he did nothing and the car caught on fire if her family could have sued the guy for doing nothing, just unreal in my opinion. Sorry for the rant.

It is my contention that "used to be a man" does NOT mean the same thing as "is now a woman."

to quote Kindergarden Cop: "boys have a p****, girls have a v*****"

Big Big let down for the LDA. Hence that is why there is no Womens event next year. You know how much crap and trouble would go to Art at the LDA if he did not let he/she compete? Big time lawsuits, big time. I have on camera last year when he/she took 3rd and got knocked out in the Semi's, Art never looked so relieved and scared in his life!! LOL.........IT was a big deal to have he/she compete, everyone was talking about it and was not liked at all. But, either they let he/she compete and cut her out as much as possible in TV coverage, or cost the LDA much dinero......You decide. This year you will see on ESPN tomorrow night and Xmas day what Mike Reagan looked like, a scared deer in headlights standing next to he/she giving the trophy and check. Art did not let them talk that much, kinda held on the to mic.

^^^^

whoooooa man.

She was interviewed after winning and she was very humble, nuff said.

Finkle. Einhorn.

Einhorn. Finkle.

Thats just wrong... In many ways

Classic. What has happened to Jim Carrey? He used to be incredibly funny.

This is what we get with our forward thinking USGA. I wonder, is this really support, or a subtle dig by Dobbyn?

This is BS... I don't care if they cut off your junk, You still have a man's body and strength of a man period..... If they want to make this fair they need to limit he/she's backswing to 3/4.

It would compete against the men if it had any balls....

anyone else picture this gal riding in a Supra in Henderson, NV? I'll hang up and listen.

The article says in 2005 the USGA approved transgender competition. She is playing by the rules, so just sour grapes for everybody else.

Shim is not a she. Shim is just a man who decided it was in his best interest to cut off his package. Unbelievable!!

GO RAIDERS!!!!!

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