BS66
Oct 27 2008, 11:55 AM
I would have thought this would have happened a long time ago. What I don't understand is how Harrington in 5th (after winning two back to back Majors) and Phil still ranked 2nd. I guess I'm not talking about the actual points system and how it works, but just talking out loud.
that_guy
Oct 27 2008, 01:15 PM
imo as of right now;
1. tiger
2. paddy
3. sergio
4. phil
El Crab
Oct 27 2008, 01:39 PM
QUOTE(that_guy @ Oct 27 2008, 11:15 AM)

imo as of right now;
1. tiger
2. paddy
3. sergio
4. phil
+1
HCEG1
Oct 27 2008, 03:26 PM
Harrington's done nothing since the PGA and his 'performance' in the Ryder Cup was hardly that of a world-beater
Did you guys see Garcia in Spain? He's got it all together right now & looks as close to the real deal as he has in a long time. He looked very comfortable with his new Rossa Daytona and he was smashing his R7 Ltd long and straight. If he comes 1st or 2nd at Valderrama this week, Lefty goes down to # 3 and El Nino only has Tiger in front of him. Come to think of it, Paddy could end up # 2 if he were to win.
Should be a good week.
Dizzub
Oct 27 2008, 03:27 PM
The problem with Paddy is he misses a ton of cuts...yea he won 2 majors which is crazy in the era of TW. But he'll go out the next 2-3 tournaments and miss cuts, something TW doesn't do and even Phil very rarely misses cuts.
EDIT- not as many as I thought but he had missed 6 cuts in a little over 30 tournaments the past 2 years. Where as Sergio has missed 3 cuts in almost 40 tournaments...these are PGA tour stats.
BabyFAcedAssassin
Oct 27 2008, 03:32 PM
QUOTE(Dizzub @ Oct 27 2008, 04:27 PM)

The problem with Paddy is he misses a ton of cuts...yea he won 2 majors which is crazy in the era of TW. But he'll go out the next 2-3 tournaments and miss cuts, something TW doesn't do and even Phil very rarely misses cuts.
exactly, as great as harrington has been in the majors he has only 1 top top aside form the two victories, and a dismal playoffs where there are alot of points at stake.
Sergio was right behind harrington had a stong playoffs, the players and a win in Europe now. IMO more consistancy than Harrington. Sergio should get to no. 2 if he keeps this up by the january or february, unless mickleson tears it up.
Awsi Dooger
Oct 27 2008, 04:10 PM
It's deserved but it also puts more pressure on him to win a major. A world ranking is a convenient reference point for golf announcers.
goldwolf
Oct 27 2008, 04:27 PM
QUOTE(that_guy @ Oct 27 2008, 07:15 PM)

imo as of right now;
1. tiger
2. paddy
3. sergio
4. phil
Agreed.
BS66
Oct 27 2008, 05:42 PM
QUOTE(Dizzub @ Oct 27 2008, 04:27 PM)

The problem with Paddy is he misses a ton of cuts...yea he won 2 majors which is crazy in the era of TW. But he'll go out the next 2-3 tournaments and miss cuts, something TW doesn't do and even Phil very rarely misses cuts.
EDIT- not as many as I thought but he had missed 6 cuts in a little over 30 tournaments the past 2 years. Where as Sergio has missed 3 cuts in almost 40 tournaments...these are PGA tour stats.
I thought I read somewhere that Paddy has been battling some injuries lately. At least I thought that was written about at the Ryder Cup...I could be wrong however.
What are Phil's cut stats? I think he might have the highest ratio out of the top 5.
stianvm
Oct 27 2008, 06:30 PM
There was some talk that Padraig had some slight wrist injury going into the British Open, enough so that he almost didnt start. But it seems it wasnt anything serious as there havent been much talk about it since the BO
willpeoples
Oct 27 2008, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(that_guy @ Oct 27 2008, 02:15 PM)

imo as of right now;
1. tiger
2. paddy
3. sergio
4. phil
i agree also, but sergio might just be a little better than paddy, however those two majors this year are very hard to argue with.
titleistlefty33
Oct 27 2008, 09:52 PM
IMO, i'd bump phil down to at least 4th and maybe put VJ in there.
TMfan54
Oct 27 2008, 10:25 PM
IMO:
1. tiger
2. paddy
3. sergio
4. AK
5. phil
AK has won two big tourneys this year and phil really hasnt done much. ak dominated the ryder cup and beat sergio real bad, but i still think sergio is a step ahead of him. anyone agree with this order?
titleistlefty33
Oct 27 2008, 11:58 PM
I'd also consider that list^^^^^^ a good one!
nickGT
Oct 28 2008, 05:09 AM
I watched every european tour event this year and i don't really rate Paddy that much. I know that sounds a tad daft considering him winning the two majors. However apart from that he hasn't done much. He always seems to be average for 48 weeks of the year but pulls his finger out when he is playing Majors. Obviously he is a great golfer but IMO sergio is better. He just lacks a bit of the mental strength.
Tiger
Sergio
VJ
Paddy
Phil
AK
stianvm
Oct 28 2008, 02:45 PM
When including AK there, i think Villegas should be mentioned aswell. Almost exactly the same stats this year as KIM, but has 2 victories in the FedEx cup with the cream of the crop this seasons players
pickerjohn
Oct 28 2008, 03:30 PM
I have absolutely no problem with how these guys are ranked,
because it means so very little, other than what awsi dooger said
about reference for the media.
I think Sergio has a chance and the talent to be #2, but one win in
3 years on the PGA and one win on the Euro Tour in 3 years is
strange results for a world #2. Phil certainly isn't #2, and VJ has
been off and on. AK is a comer for sure, be fun to watch him next year.
Harrington has to be # 2 after winning 3 majors, its simply the best results
of all the rest, but otherwise he's been very ordinary.
It just eems that Tiger has established himself as undisputed #1 untill
injury claims him or he retires, the others really are a scramble for the other ranking
spots.
TW
Harrington
Sergio,AK,VJ,Phil
This time next year my prediction is:
TW
Sergio
AK
Then the rest.
skinkman
Oct 28 2008, 03:34 PM
QUOTE
I think Sergio has a chance and the talent to be #2, but one win in
3 years on the PGA and one win on the Euro Tour in 3 years is
strange results for a world #2.

could not agree more..
i think VJ is the real 2..he is the only one who has been Tiger like
Tenementrock
Oct 28 2008, 03:54 PM
he played good dis year. maybe not so many wins, but he contended a lot.
HCEG1
Oct 30 2008, 11:52 AM
Good start at Valderrama and fantastic putting. I think he'll be #2 after this week
Mr Natural
Nov 4 2008, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (skinkman @ Oct 28 2008, 04:34 PM)

QUOTE
I think Sergio has a chance and the talent to be #2, but one win in
3 years on the PGA and one win on the Euro Tour in 3 years is
strange results for a world #2.

could not agree more..
i think VJ is the real 2..he is the only one who has been Tiger like
QUOTE (HCEG1 @ Oct 30 2008, 12:52 PM)

Good start at Valderrama and fantastic putting. I think he'll be #2 after this week
Any ranking system that even entertains the idea of placing a choke artist loser like Sergio ahead of someone who has won the last two majors and 3 of the last 6 is just plain wrong. Hell, if the ranking system was based on ability to close ut a tournament when in contention Sergio wouldn't rate top 100. His record over the last few years is nothing short of pathetic for the supposed second best player in the world.
I think if you asked any other pro golfer in the world who they would swap years with they would all go for Paddy. I'm sure not too many would want to have a year where they choked away a major and two Fedex Cup events, and won a consolation tournament against a z grade field on their home course.
The ranking system may be kind to nearly men like Sergio but history will only remember winners, and particularly major champions.
Now if they had a rankings list for biggest choker, then we'd be talking Sergio.
Matt727
Nov 4 2008, 08:08 PM
woww "Mr Natural" ... i can bet any amount that what Sergio shoots on Sundays you couldnt touch on mon, tues, wed, thurs, fri, sat, or sunday, so please dont bash someone if you cant even come close to beating them, just have some respect man
DemolitionMan
Nov 4 2008, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (Nickcuban @ Nov 4 2008, 03:55 PM)

My shop just ordered a set of MT OS for a customer on Friday and we recieved them today...
QUOTE (Matt727 @ Nov 4 2008, 05:08 PM)

woww "Mr Natural" ... i can bet any amount that what Sergio shoots on Sundays you couldnt touch on mon, tues, wed, thurs, fri, sat, or sunday, so please dont bash someone if you cant even come close to beating them, just have some respect man
Along those lines, speaking of choke Mr Natural, your first post is one of the bigger choke jobs we've seen here at GolfWRX. Since it's too late to make up for one of the worse 'first posts' here at GolfWRX, maybe you can calm yourself and do better for your second post.
El Crab
Nov 4 2008, 09:48 PM
BS. You don't have to be able to shoot a 64 to comment on guys who can. Sergio has just about as much talent as anyone, yet he can't close. Its that simple. Harrington isn't the most consistent player, but when he wins, he wins the big ones lately. And he closes them out in Tiger-like fashion.
There's no professional that would rather have Sergio's career than Harrington's right now. No one. Now, down the road that might change. Sergio's young, after all. But its ridiculous to say we can't comment on Sergio because he's a better player than any of us.
DemolitionMan
Nov 5 2008, 12:34 AM
QUOTE (El Crab @ Nov 4 2008, 06:48 PM)

BS. You don't have to be able to shoot a 64 to comment on guys who can. Sergio has just about as much talent as anyone, yet he can't close. Its that simple. Harrington isn't the most consistent player, but when he wins, he wins the big ones lately. And he closes them out in Tiger-like fashion.
There's no professional that would rather have Sergio's career than Harrington's right now. No one. Now, down the road that might change. Sergio's young, after all. But its ridiculous to say we can't comment on Sergio because he's a better player than any of us.
You are right, you don't have to shoot 64 to comment on a tour pro here at golfwrx. But we do run a polite ship here and anyone who takes the time to experience the flavor of golfwrx knows how important fellow respect is. Any member here can clearly see the difference between your assessment of sergio and Mr. Natural's rude commentary which is why you are a member here with a respected opinion and Mr. Natural will not be posting here in this millenium.
DemolitionMan
Nov 10 2008, 12:17 AM
Forget #3, now Sergio is #2. I think the choking label is well worn off. Now about the BPWAM label? That's looking mighty strong.
rki
Nov 10 2008, 02:59 AM
Sergio had a good year. I'm sure it will translate in a major win very soon.
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