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drgolfaholic
Please make the correct call: Line A or Line B.

Thanks

klaymon
My vote is line A because of the actual point of entry (provided it hit land first).
kevcarter
It landed on dry land, if the land was outside the hazard, then drop on A.

Kevin
drgolfaholic
Thanks guys.
jjj912
With water hazards, remember the key phrase is "the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard". That point is the reference point. So in this case the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard on the greenside. So, the line you would drop on is line A if that was your preferred relief option.
larrybud
Interesting. I think most courses would mark the far side of the hazard with red stakes so you could drop 2 club lengths from where it went it, especially if there's a good chance of hitting over the hazard and having the ball roll back in.

I'd love to see a good diagram of where Sergio dropped on the 16th @ the PGA this year, because his shot essentially did that the OP diagram shows.
larrybud
I have a question. What if line A extends throughout the hazard until it hits an OB line? Then where would you drop?
paulyb
QUOTE(larrybud @ Oct 16 2008, 08:55 PM) *
I'd love to see a good diagram of where Sergio dropped on the 16th @ the PGA this year, because his shot essentially did that the OP diagram shows.



I believe it was a yellow staked hazard with a drop area. Otherwise he would have had to go about 200 yards out to be in line with the hole.
HackerD
I agree Line A is correct. However you always have the additional option to rehit from the original ball position. Which could be the best option if Line A extended into an OB area with no place to drop.
jjj912
QUOTE(larrybud @ Oct 16 2008, 10:00 PM) *
I have a question. What if line A extends throughout the hazard until it hits an OB line? Then where would you drop?


Part of the hazard would meet the definition of a Lateral Water Hazard and should be marked accordingly. If so marked, you would have the option to drop within 2 club lengths of the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard.

Lateral Water Hazard
A "lateral water hazard" is a water hazard or that part of a water hazard so situated that it is not possible, or is deemed by the Committee to be impracticable, to drop a ball behind the water hazard in accordance with Rule 26-1b
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Five by Five
QUOTE(jjj912 @ Oct 17 2008, 10:32 AM) *
Part of the hazard would meet the definition of a Lateral Water Hazard and should be marked accordingly. If so marked, you would have the option to drop within 2 club lengths of the point where the ball last crossed the margin of the hazard.

Lateral Water Hazard
A "lateral water hazard" is a water hazard or that part of a water hazard so situated that it is not possible, or is deemed by the Committee to be impracticable, to drop a ball behind the water hazard in accordance with Rule 26-1b
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Ah, a course I play has an island green and if you hit onto the green and roll off the back you should go to the far side and drop because it's all marked as yellow.
However the far side is somebody's backyard, so it's not an option. Should the back half of the hazard have been properly marked as red? If it's marked as yellow should I act like it's marked as red?
If I'm in the rough I often take too little club on this hole b/c I'd rather come up short and get to drop on a good lie in the fairway than catch a flyer, blow the ball over the green, and have to drop again in the rough. But maybe that's based on not understanding the rules...
jjj912
The backside of the green should probably marked as a lateral hazard. It would also be appropriate for the course to establish a drop zone.

If it is a yellow marked hazard, then you can't treat it as a lateral (red). The best solution would be to talk to the course management and get them to change the hazard type to a lateral hazard.
777twist
QUOTE(jjj912 @ Oct 22 2008, 11:59 AM) *
The backside of the green should probably marked as a lateral hazard. It would also be appropriate for the course to establish a drop zone.

If it is a yellow marked hazard, then you can't treat it as a lateral (red). The best solution would be to talk to the course management and get them to change the hazard type to a lateral hazard.



Does that even make sense to have yellow on the back side of a green? Isn't the concept of a Water Hazard to hit over it...not into it? Seems retarded to me that you hit to the green and it rolls off into a yellow water hazard and then you have to go get your ball (if you can), then drive/walk to the other side of a lake (you weren't hitting over) to hit back toward the green???? Does not compute. Maybe I just don't have those "tough" kind of holes here in Tampa.

I would really like to hear more about this, please talk to the Course Manager and find out what the deal is...and provide us a picture, that would be great.
BILL12x
If red staked and it cleared the hazard line before rolling back in, you can drop up near the green, two clublengths, no closer to the hole.

If yellow staked and it cleared the hazard line before rolling back in, you can drop along line A.

If red or yellow staked and it did not clear the hazard, (even though it cleared the water), you drop is on line B.
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