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I think the home advantage will really help the USA but not enough to win it, I feel Europe have enough in the bag to just retain it or win it outright.
I went with USA wins in a nail bitter, with Sergio getting the most points. I think this is the year we get the cup back but it is not going to be easy I will predict last day last match to decide the winner.
Europe win 16-12. Top points scorer is Westwood, and Anthony Kim is unbeaten in his first Ryder Cup. Stenson sinks the winning putt.
Listening to Zinger, he is no motivator. In fact, I would tune him out. He's just not the kind of solid, smart leader you would want in that position. His whole attitude sucks. His manner of speech sucks. His presentation and attitude sucks. His public face to show the media sucks. So unless the American players can pick themselves up on their own without the "close watch" of their captain (which I'm sure they can do, most of them are used to this situation), they'll just not get into it enough.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
I expect the US to win big and embarrass the Euro squad
then again I still believe in the tooth fairy
All the way USA
then again I still believe in the tooth fairy
All the way USA
Europe just, Garcia points leader.
I expect the USA to win narrowly. No great rationale or anything I'm going to bet on. For some reason for about a decade I've expected the USA to win during the year Faldo is European captain. When his turn came on American soil I was a bit more convinced.
BTW, I can't believe the nonsense that Europe is a huge favorite. What numbers are they looking at? I almost fell off my bed when Scott Van Pelt on the Louisville/Kansas State game described the Europeans as a prohibitive favorite.
The odds I saw today here in Las Vegas:
Will Europe retain the Cup?:
Yes: -150
No: +130
Wow, such overwhelming favoritism. That's the money line equivalent of a 2.5 point favorite in a football game.
BTW, I can't believe the nonsense that Europe is a huge favorite. What numbers are they looking at? I almost fell off my bed when Scott Van Pelt on the Louisville/Kansas State game described the Europeans as a prohibitive favorite.
The odds I saw today here in Las Vegas:
Will Europe retain the Cup?:
Yes: -150
No: +130
Wow, such overwhelming favoritism. That's the money line equivalent of a 2.5 point favorite in a football game.
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
i root for the usa....but i would hope that whoever wins the cup it is close and fun to watch instead of a blowout....i remember watching the 2004 morning matches on friday and could feel that it was over then and there!! in terms of azinger as the captain i feel he is putting in an effort to get the crowd on his teams side with the pep rally and the pins etc....when he needs to concentrate more on his team. i was a little weirded out by his number of facial contortions during his press conference.....i don't know whether it was nerves or what?
QUOTE(puttputty @ Sep 17 2008, 03:19 PM) 
Listening to Zinger, he is no motivator. In fact, I would tune him out. He's just not the kind of solid, smart leader you would want in that position. His whole attitude sucks. His manner of speech sucks. His presentation and attitude sucks. His public face to show the media sucks. So unless the American players can pick themselves up on their own without the "close watch" of their captain (which I'm sure they can do, most of them are used to this situation), they'll just not get into it enough.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
Faldo is a pompus Arse and if his own media doesn't like him then they should get in line right after his own team. I would rather play for Zinger than that arogant a**.
you dont here anything abt the US not being motivated i think everyone on the team really wants to win so i think the US will pretty much trounce the Euro's...
USA
USA
Same as 2006: Euro 18-1/2 USA 9-1/2.
Garcia wins all his points and Justin Leonard is the high points getter with 2 on the USA side.
Sorry for the doom and gloom.
Garcia wins all his points and Justin Leonard is the high points getter with 2 on the USA side.
Sorry for the doom and gloom.
QUOTE(puttputty @ Sep 17 2008, 02:19 PM)
Listening to Zinger, he is no motivator. In fact, I would tune him out. He's just not the kind of solid, smart leader you would want in that position. His whole attitude sucks. His manner of speech sucks. His presentation and attitude sucks. His public face to show the media sucks. So unless the American players can pick themselves up on their own without the "close watch" of their captain (which I'm sure they can do, most of them are used to this situation), they'll just not get into it enough.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
I don't think you could be any more wrong, trust me the American team loves Zinger, win or lose they will love playing for him more than the last several captains. Hal Sutton was a joke, Lehman overanalyzed the whole thing and added pressure to the situation. Zinger will difuse pressure away from the team and take it on his own shoulders, his team will respect him and resond to his leadership. I dont even think Faldo knows what it is to have a friend on tour, they only respect him for his playing record nothing else. The only way Europe wins is if they tell Nicky to buzz off and win on pure talent, which they may well do, but your post is simply jingonistic and rediculous, nothing more, nothing less.
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
Europe will retain the cup, with something between 15 and 17 points.
Holmes will collapse, Weekley could be a good US surprise, Garcia and Westwood will continue their fantastic Ryder Cup story.
GO EUROPE !!!!!!!!!!!!
Holmes will collapse, Weekley could be a good US surprise, Garcia and Westwood will continue their fantastic Ryder Cup story.
GO EUROPE !!!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(pingman360 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
Tour wins do not translate to Ryder Cup success. Ask Phil Mick and Hopalong.
QUOTE(pingman360 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
Tour wins do not translate to Ryder Cup success. Ask Phil Mick and Hopalong.
Perry will not play all the matches.
Best scenario for all true golf fans - close, tight matches, plenty of good hearted sportmanship but above all a fantastic exhibition of world class golf with the winning team victorious by half a point won in the last match on Sunday. Not much to ask for?
QUOTE(mjtoal @ Sep 18 2008, 02:29 AM)
QUOTE(pingman360 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
Tour wins do not translate to Ryder Cup success. Ask Phil Mick and Hopalong.
Perry will not play all the matches.
How about we ask Sergio , Westwood and a few of the Euro players as well.
QUOTE(kenk7us2002 @ Sep 18 2008, 06:21 AM)
QUOTE(mjtoal @ Sep 18 2008, 02:29 AM)
QUOTE(pingman360 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
Tour wins do not translate to Ryder Cup success. Ask Phil Mick and Hopalong.
Perry will not play all the matches.
How about we ask Sergio , Westwood and a few of the Euro players as well.
Don't get me wrong, I want KP to play well, I am just skeptical. I just have this feeling that he is happy to be there, is playing for the home crowd and the pressure will get to him. His putter has always been shakey, and he blew the PGA at Valhalla in 1996, which I attended. JB will play some inspired golf, will win some points in dramatic fashion and lose some as well.
I'm looking for the US to put up a good fight by all means but I think in the end Europe will be too much, but hope big AK does good and also Sergio...
should be a good one
should be a good one
US nail biter
Euro Ace
AK points leader
Go USA
Euro Ace
AK points leader
Go USA
Got a feeling its going to go USA's way this time.
Not much has gone their way in recent times and it just feels like the tide has to turn.
But needless to say I hope Europe find a way to win!
Voted for tight USA win
No aces
Justin Rose as highest points scorer (just a feeling).
Not much has gone their way in recent times and it just feels like the tide has to turn.
But needless to say I hope Europe find a way to win!
Voted for tight USA win
No aces
Justin Rose as highest points scorer (just a feeling).
QUOTE(kenk7us2002 @ Sep 18 2008, 12:21 PM)
QUOTE(mjtoal @ Sep 18 2008, 02:29 AM)
QUOTE(pingman360 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
Tour wins do not translate to Ryder Cup success. Ask Phil Mick and Hopalong.
Perry will not play all the matches.
How about we ask Sergio , Westwood and a few of the Euro players as well.
I think you are confused and thinking about the opposite relationship, which is often very different. For example, being a member of GolfWrx means you are interested in golf. But being interested in golf does not mean you are a member of GolfWrx. See? - not the same at all.
Anyway, Lee Westwood has won over 20 times on the European Tour. Oh, you meant the PGA Tour? But Westie is playing for Europe.
Sergio won the Tim Finchem's Ego Invitational (aka The Players) this year and has won 7 times on the PGA Tour, which is more than a few of the US players. He has also won 6 European Tour events.
Any other questions?
Being a prolific winner does not guarantee Ryder Cup success. Nor does being from Kentucky.
I have a gut feeling that USA will THUMP Europe...
1. No Tiger. Nothing against Tiger, I think by nature too much attention is drawn to him.
2. Two Kentucky boys.
3. Majority of people are expecting Europe to win.
4. Boo Weekly, Chad Campbell, and Anthony Kim will play exceptionally well.
5. I wouldn't mind seeing someone else taking Phil's spot as well. Maybe Rocco or Brandt Snedeker!
I just get this feeling that we have a core of GOOD OLE' BOYS who are going to stick it to Europe!
I hope I'm right!
Biggest points getter = Padraig Harrington
1. No Tiger. Nothing against Tiger, I think by nature too much attention is drawn to him.
2. Two Kentucky boys.
3. Majority of people are expecting Europe to win.
4. Boo Weekly, Chad Campbell, and Anthony Kim will play exceptionally well.
5. I wouldn't mind seeing someone else taking Phil's spot as well. Maybe Rocco or Brandt Snedeker!
I just get this feeling that we have a core of GOOD OLE' BOYS who are going to stick it to Europe!
I hope I'm right!
Biggest points getter = Padraig Harrington
QUOTE(mjtoal @ Sep 18 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE(pingman360 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
KP really has not played well since July. With that being said I think he will do very well and he hits it long and straight. My concern is the lack of passion Phil has for this event, read the golf.com article about it and this has been a theme all along. I know he is not popular with his teamates but they really need him to show some Emotion and Fire.
Tour wins do not translate to Ryder Cup success. Ask Phil Mick and Hopalong.
Well Ryder Cup success obviously does not translate to MAJOR SUCCESS EITHER! Also Sergio who is great in Team matches is not good in Singles.
GO USA...
I'm not sure the USA can pull this one off, but I'm hoping for a close match.
What I think is that we will see Anthony Kim step up and show us what he's made of. I think this kid is the real deal.
What I think is that we will see Anthony Kim step up and show us what he's made of. I think this kid is the real deal.
How about:
One day, an American sportscaster will come along who can actually pronounce the name 'Bernard.'
One day, an American sportscaster will come along who can actually pronounce the name 'Bernard.'
QUOTE(BRS216 @ Sep 18 2008, 12:44 PM)
QUOTE(mjtoal @ Sep 18 2008, 02:28 AM)
QUOTE(pingman360 @ Sep 18 2008, 05:16 AM)
QUOTE(dlygrisse @ Sep 18 2008, 12:06 AM)
QUOTE(jkumpire @ Sep 17 2008, 08:49 PM)
It is going top be a lot of fun to watch...
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
For Euro fans out there, is Faldo such a jerk that they have to take him to task every time he opens his mouth? It seems the press is pretty hard on him.
For US fans: TGC is saying Azinger is thinking about Holmes/Perry as the first paring out
Friday. Do you like the idea, or would rather see Mickelson/Perry?
I think it is a horrible idea, JB has never played in this environment, Kenny Perry has never played well in a high pressure event. Kenny Perry's goal this season was to MAKE the team, he reached his goal and I have a feeling he will be worthless during the event. He hasn't played well since he qualified, If I was Zinger I would use him sparingly.
yeah i mean 2 wins since he was in the top 8 what is he doing he's just a hack
WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Kenny is gonna win a ton of points imo... he's talking about this thing capping off his career... i dont see him sliding off the stage this way...
KP really has not played well since July. With that being said I think he will do very well and he hits it long and straight. My concern is the lack of passion Phil has for this event, read the golf.com article about it and this has been a theme all along. I know he is not popular with his teamates but they really need him to show some Emotion and Fire.
Tour wins do not translate to Ryder Cup success. Ask Phil Mick and Hopalong.
Well Ryder Cup success obviously does not translate to MAJOR SUCCESS EITHER! Also Sergio who is great in Team matches is not good in Singles.
GO USA...
Thankyou
Phil Mick & AK first out against Paddy & R Karlsson? Gonna be an interesting opening match.
- Phil Mickelson / Anthony Kim - Padraig Harrington / Robert Karlsson
- Justin Leonard / Hunter Mahan - Henrik Stenson / Paul Casey
- Stewart Cink / Chad Campbell - Justin Rose / Ian Poulter
- Jim Furyk / Kenny Perry - Lee Westwood / Sergio Garcia
I may be wrong but I don't think it will be any worse than 2.5 to 1.5 to Europe with the potential to be a bit better.
Apart from Faldo's speach everything I saw dring the opening ceramony gave me more confidence for a Europe win.
Barry.
Apart from Faldo's speach everything I saw dring the opening ceramony gave me more confidence for a Europe win.
Barry.
8:05 a.m. ET:
Phil Mickelson and Anthony Kim (USA) vs. Padraig Harrington and Robert Karlsson (European)
8:20 a.m. ET:
Justin Leonard and Hunter Mahan (USA) vs. Henrik Stenson and Paul Casey (European)
8:35 a.m. ET:
Stewart Cink and Chad Campbell (USA) vs. Justin Rose and Ian Poulter (European)
8:50 a.m. ET:
Kenny Perry and Jim Furyk (USA) vs. Lee Westwood and Sergio Garcia (European)
I think the first two matches are a given and the last two are a bit of a toss up .
QUOTE(kenk7us2002 @ Sep 18 2008, 08:36 PM)
8:05 a.m. ET:
Phil Mickelson and Anthony Kim (USA) vs. Padraig Harrington and Robert Karlsson (European)
I like this matchup for the US... It should be really interesting to see how this pair works together. Kim is so passionate and Phil just seems like he doesn't give a Sh%t, He said he wanted to play with Kim so maybe that will give him a spark. My conccern is Phil has not played well since May.I think it should be 2 & 1 USA!!!
8:20 a.m. ET:
Justin Leonard and Hunter Mahan (USA) vs. Henrik Stenson and Paul Casey (European)
I think this matchup could favor the Euro's. This should be really a close one either way. Should be decided on the last hole. The length off the Tee for Europe will be a huge advantage in this match. That pairing of Casey and Stensen is a tough one. Europe wins 1 up or a TIE.
8:35 a.m. ET:
Stewart Cink and Chad Campbell (USA) vs. Justin Rose and Ian Poulter (European)
I really like this pairing for the US. Two guys who really like each other and both hit the ball really well. Both good ball strikers and Cink can really putt. I think Rose is overated and Poulter is either going to play well or melt under the enormous scrutiny. I think this one will favor the US like 3 & 1 US.
8:50 a.m. ET:
Kenny Perry and Jim Furyk (USA) vs. Lee Westwood and Sergio Garcia (European)
I think this could go either way and probably go with the upset here. I think with KP and Furyk who is tough as nails. with the crowd on their side I think they will win this one. US 1 UP.
Phil Mickelson and Anthony Kim (USA) vs. Padraig Harrington and Robert Karlsson (European)
I like this matchup for the US... It should be really interesting to see how this pair works together. Kim is so passionate and Phil just seems like he doesn't give a Sh%t, He said he wanted to play with Kim so maybe that will give him a spark. My conccern is Phil has not played well since May.I think it should be 2 & 1 USA!!!
8:20 a.m. ET:
Justin Leonard and Hunter Mahan (USA) vs. Henrik Stenson and Paul Casey (European)
I think this matchup could favor the Euro's. This should be really a close one either way. Should be decided on the last hole. The length off the Tee for Europe will be a huge advantage in this match. That pairing of Casey and Stensen is a tough one. Europe wins 1 up or a TIE.
8:35 a.m. ET:
Stewart Cink and Chad Campbell (USA) vs. Justin Rose and Ian Poulter (European)
I really like this pairing for the US. Two guys who really like each other and both hit the ball really well. Both good ball strikers and Cink can really putt. I think Rose is overated and Poulter is either going to play well or melt under the enormous scrutiny. I think this one will favor the US like 3 & 1 US.
8:50 a.m. ET:
Kenny Perry and Jim Furyk (USA) vs. Lee Westwood and Sergio Garcia (European)
I think this could go either way and probably go with the upset here. I think with KP and Furyk who is tough as nails. with the crowd on their side I think they will win this one. US 1 UP.
I think the morning session will end up USA (3 points) & Europe (1 point). Hopefully we can get a home field advantage and the US fans bring energy like the European fans.
QUOTE(mat562 @ Sep 18 2008, 04:22 PM)
How about:
One day, an American sportscaster will come along who can actually pronounce the name 'Bernard.'
One day, an American sportscaster will come along who can actually pronounce the name 'Bernard.'
Yea I would like to see a Brit say America instead of Ameriker
....hahaha
QUOTE(BRS216 @ Sep 18 2008, 06:44 PM)
Well Ryder Cup success obviously does not translate to MAJOR SUCCESS EITHER! Also Sergio who is great in Team matches is not good in Singles.
You're right, but for each player, there are four points to pick in team matches, and only one in singles...
Total points in Ryder Cup is 28, and 16 of those are coming from foursomes and fourballs. Therefore I think that it is more important to be good in team matches than in singles...
GO EUROPE !
I think It will be a draw.I will be watching with the volume off,there by saving my ears every U.S. tee shot that awful sound GET IN THE HOLE! How you guys put up with that I don't know!
Most points Padraig
Most points Padraig
I am thinking AK and Phil take this first match...
Then the second, how isn't Casey and Stenson going to beat Leonard and Mahan...
Third match, I just cant see again Cink and Campbell beating ROSE and POULTER...
Fourth match, no way your going to beat Sergio and Westwood
I say it will go
US
Tie
Tie/Europe
Europe
I'd say it will be 2 to 2 at best for the US
and I want the US to win, being from here, but just saying...
Then the second, how isn't Casey and Stenson going to beat Leonard and Mahan...
Third match, I just cant see again Cink and Campbell beating ROSE and POULTER...
Fourth match, no way your going to beat Sergio and Westwood
I say it will go
US
Tie
Tie/Europe
Europe
I'd say it will be 2 to 2 at best for the US
and I want the US to win, being from here, but just saying...
well I see I got the points right this morning 3-1 but not sure which matches I got wrong oh well my score war right
I am looking for 2-2 this afternoon
I am looking for 2-2 this afternoon
The 16 ½ - 11 ½ win by the United States in the 37th Ryder Cup was it's largest margin of victory since it defeated the Europeans, 18 1/2 - 9 1/2, at Walton Heath Golf Club in Surrey, England, in 1981.
I am glad I was right!
Although I don't think Padraig was the highest point getter...
BOO...S...A...!
I am glad I was right!
Although I don't think Padraig was the highest point getter...
BOO...S...A...!
QUOTE(mikpga @ Sep 22 2008, 10:47 AM)
The 16 ½ - 11 ½ win by the United States in the 37th Ryder Cup was it's largest margin of victory since it defeated the Europeans, 18 1/2 - 9 1/2, at Walton Heath Golf Club in Surrey, England, in 1981.
I am glad I was right!
Although I don't think Padraig was the highest point getter...
BOO...S...A...!
I am glad I was right!
Although I don't think Padraig was the highest point getter...
BOO...S...A...!
Yet some want to say it was a close contest ?
QUOTE(kenk7us2002 @ Sep 22 2008, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE(mikpga @ Sep 22 2008, 10:47 AM)
The 16 ½ - 11 ½ win by the United States in the 37th Ryder Cup was it's largest margin of victory since it defeated the Europeans, 18 1/2 - 9 1/2, at Walton Heath Golf Club in Surrey, England, in 1981.
I am glad I was right!
Although I don't think Padraig was the highest point getter...
BOO...S...A...!
I am glad I was right!
Although I don't think Padraig was the highest point getter...
BOO...S...A...!
Yet some want to say it was a close contest ?
After the first session on Friday, Europe were always in trouble.
There was a time on Sunday when it could have turned around and a draw looked almost possible, but the Furyk and Holmes points were huge for the US.
QUOTE(puttputty @ Sep 17 2008, 03:19 PM)
Listening to Zinger, he is no motivator. In fact, I would tune him out. He's just not the kind of solid, smart leader you would want in that position. His whole attitude sucks. His manner of speech sucks. His presentation and attitude sucks. His public face to show the media sucks. So unless the American players can pick themselves up on their own without the "close watch" of their captain (which I'm sure they can do, most of them are used to this situation), they'll just not get into it enough.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
Pride? Sure there is - but is that enough?
As for Faldo - well, unless you're British and are used to listening to self-deprecating, jab-in-the-ribs, sarcastic, dry, publican kind of humor everyday of your life as you would in England, and understand just the way it is over there and how he is, you wouldn't understand that he means well.
The crowd will help the US - but at the same time, the silence when they're failing is really quite sad. The Europeans don't go quiet even when they're losing. That is the difference. The Euros will treat it like a soccer match, as always.
Yeah he sucked.
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