Caught the last part of a conversation about vandalism on one of the greens at Pinehurst No. 2. What is they story? They look awful but the commentators on Golf Channel said they are still rolling true.

They just said that some people poured paint or somthing on them.

Bloody savages. hope they rot in hell and when they get thirsty have to drink paint for all eternity

How about them drinking some paint thinner

Like you said LR Hog, they are still rolling true and the commentator also said the players weren't even complaining so you know the greens must have been rolling pretty well. I would think it would mess with how you read the greens though.

This must be a trend in NC. I played in the state mid-am qualifying yesterday and someone had vandalized one of the greens with spray paint. It was really bad!!

this is the problem with you live in an area with a bunch of hoodlums. The Pinehurst area is full of rich bratty kids that just need to get hit up side the head a few times. These kids have nothing better to do, so they go around causing trouble. Pinehurst #2 lies just off on of the main roads within Pinehurst, so it isn't hard to walk onto.

If paid enough, I would sit in the wood line and keep watch. Then when these vandals show up, I would put a tranquilizer dart in them. That way when they woke up, they would be strung up in the Supers office, so he could deal with them.

It's probably some punk kids thinking it is funny. They don't realize how much damage they do and how long it takes to fix. At my course a couple years ago, some kids came out in the middle of the night and hit golf shots from one of the greens. They tore the green up with divots everywhere. Things like this happen all the time with kids doing something stupid thinking it's funny, until they get caught.

I live on a golf course and my house is about 3 blocks from the main entrance. About 3 years ago I was laying in bed one night trying to get to sleep around midnight when I heard a bunch of drunk yahoos walking down the street. They were fairly loud and obnoxious and I was a little concerned that it wouldn't take much for one of them to do something really dumb. I could tell from the talk I heard from them that they were coming from the golf club. The next morning I hear the word that the 18th green had been vandalized by a car being driven onto it and wheels being spun, etc.

Fortunately the miscreant was located and justice was served. I suspect it was one of the drunks who walked past my house who perhaps decided he was too liquored up to drive home but decided to take a spin on the course before staggering home, since it is easily accessed from the parking lot.

This happened at Hoylake in 2006 when Tiger was playing his approach to the 18th on Sunday. Fathers 4 Justice in an attention seeking publicity stunt, alienating every golfer in the country.

Are you saying that someone drove onto the green and spun out their tires while people were playing?

An absolute shame hearing it happen to Pinehurst

The green that was vandalized was #10. It's primarily the middle-left and rear-left portions of the green. For stroke play they had the pin front right over the right greenside bunker away from the burned-out/vandalized. Overall the green is still in good shape, but I would imagine they're still keeping the pin away from the vandalized spots. My putts weren't really affected by those areas as my putt in the first round of match play went through only a very small part of that stuff.
We weren't allowed to hit shots into the green or putt on it during the practice round, and thankfully #10 was the only green on the course that this happened to.

Where the heck did that come from? The density of kids in Pinehurst itself is actually very, very low - when I moved into my house in 2002 I was the youngest home owner on our cul-de-sac (10 homes) by roughly 10 years (at age 52). We got our first "kids" on our street last year! I don't know if it is the behavior of the kids in town or just the low density, but I am not aware of any vandalism in town, although I'm sure it must happen.

I don't have confirmation of this, but I have heard that it was a disgruntled (former) course maintenance worker. It was clearly some kind of chemical rather than paint or physical damage.

dave

How long do you think it takes to repair something like that? I saw that burnt out green on tv

OT, but congratulations on the nice showing you made!

Big deal. With spray paint the greens are still playable and will soon recover.

Would have been worse if they dug lumps out of them.

That was a truly IGNORANT comment, coming from a guy who lives in Fayetteville, NC...a realy armpit city of the state. Pinehurst is mostly retirees and people on golf vacations with a small percentage of kids, and definately not a "hoodlum" area like every other street in Fayetteville or Durham. This kind of thing can happen anywhere.

+1 on that!! It doesn't get any worse in NC than Fayetteville! I'm sure there is a bad kid or 2 in Pinehurst, but the town isn't full of them.

FWIW, they have resodded parts of the 10th green on No. 2 at Pinehurst. I haven't yet seen the results, but they move (what seems like) square miles of sod around here at the blink of an eye.

dave

not every child or person that lives in durham or fayetteville are hoodlums.
i live in raleigh, and spend a lot of time in both areas. Everybody has the good and bad in their communities, but dont just put a huge sign on the entire city.

I lived in Raleigh for 8 years and am very familiar with Durham and Fayetteville. You are correct that there are good and bad in every community, but the original post that started this was a guy whom stated that Pinehurst is "full of rich bratty kids...and a bunch of hoodlums". Now if anyone is going to stereotype any area, my point was that both Fayetteville and Durham are by far two of the worst cities for crime and hoodlums in the state, and Pinehurst would be at the bottom of that list. The guy made an ignorant statement about an amazing area of the State of NC, and it is comical that this person is from Fayette-nam!

Raleigh is an amazing place to raise a family with great public schools, but you have to admit that Durham is horrible as a whole. If you don't agree with me, perhaps you would agree with crime rate numbers, homocide numbers, and violent/gang crime number...because Durham tops those lists for NC.

According to this Fayetteville is he most dangerous metro area in NC and is 23rd most danergous in the country. Yeah, sorry for pinning bad sign on that great town.

http://www.morganquitno.com/cit04pop.htm#METRO

Fayetteville along with 4 SC cities! Wow, no surprise to me but probably would be to many on here.

i understand, trust me i know about the homocide numbers, etc etc, my mom works in law enforcement.. just didnt want everyone to get blanketed with the statement.

i'm kind of surprised no one has mentioned the possibility that it was a disgruntle golfer that was trying to qualify for the am but didn't make it....and thought that it was someone else's fault....

Was Poulter playing the US amateur?

I guess a lack of reading is a requirement to be a member of Cowan's Ford. I didn't say that all of Pinehurst sucked, and all kids were hoodlums. I said that a bunch of rich bratty kids are the ones who are the hoodlums, as they believe that since they have money, that they can do anything that they want and not get in trouble for it because of who mommy and daddy are. If you think that kids don't do this, and that the Pinehurst/Southern Pines/Aberdeen area is immune to this problem, then you have serious issues with being able to view society. It only takes one or two kids to be able to do this. I have been to the area many a time and have seen how the teenage population of that area acts. They are definitely capable of committing such a senseless act.

Yes, Fayetteville is the crappy city. There are far more hoodlums here than there are in the Pinehurst area, but they still have them. These crappy kids in Fayetteville have not gone on to vandalize golf courses yet, because their is not a huge golfing economy in this area. Instead they would rather kidnap you at gunpoint and take you to your ATM to get them money. Hence the reason I have to carry a concealed weapon. Fayetteville is a far cry from Durham though. We are not having any large riots at the mall, yet.

You actually have the audacity to attack my post, yet you last line is "This kind of thing can happen anywhere." How is does that make sense? You through out your entire arguement with that one statement.

Clearly you did not even reread your own post...you stated that Pinehuest is "full of rich bratty kids that are hoodlums". That sir was the ignorant statement. For you to make a statement that "these bratty kids" can do anythikng they want because of who mommy and daddy are is an absolute OPINION on your part. You then stated today that it only takes one or two kids...but earlier you said that Pinehurst was FULL OF THESE KIDS.

I just found it odd that a person from Fayetteville was looking for a way to trash talk a beautiful place like Pinehurst...and other on here agreed, go back and read them. Moron.

I was not argueing that a kid did not do this...I was argueing with you gross misrepresentation of the area. I grew up in Princeton, NJ and there are even bad kids there, things like this can happen anywhere since it only takes 1 troubled kid; however, my problem was with your blasting the area saying that the Pinehurst area was FULL OF THESE BRATTY KIDS. That is wrong and a horrible opinion of the area. If you are going to generalize an area then you sould do that to Fayetteville and Durham, that was clearly my point.

Since when does the word "bunch of" mean FULL OF of rich bratty kids? So I guess 3,4, or more can't mean a bunch. Plus, I never said that Pinehurst wasn't a nice place. It is a beautiful place with many nice golf courses. It also has a very wealthy population. I guess you think that it is a utopia and all it perfect there. So sorry to bring you down to reality. I guess you don't think that their are kids in the Pinehurst area that think that they can do whatever they want.

Keep up the name calling, because it shows you must be better than I am or atleast you just think that you are. To add to it, Charlotte isn't that great of an area either. The schools suck, and crime is huge throughout state. Thank goodness for Arkansas or else NC would be #50 in education again. But yet again, everthing looks different through rose colored glasses.

Heh, no. They threw purple paint on the green. At least it was described as paint by the commentators but it looked powdery.

Reread your original post...you state both. I will add it in the next post.

And I was not the one blasting Pinehurst like you were...I already stated that any city or town can have a couple of problem kids, they are everywhere. I found it comical that a guy from Fayetteville would state that Pinehurst was FULL of rich bratty kids, sounds like someone does not like others to have a nice place and need to trash-talk it...it would be like someone living in Durham calling Raleigh a ghetto, funny and weird. I do not think any city is a utopia, but I am not the one on here saying such a nice town is FULL of bratty kids, and pointing the finger of blame with NOTHING to prove what you are saying. It was just an ugly statement, and it was most funny becuase you are in Fayetteville making that statement.

These are YOUR EXACT WORDS. "The pinehurst area is FULL OF RICH BRATTY KIDS THAT JUST NEED TO GET HIT UP SIDE THE HEAD A FEW TIMES. You must be a product of the great NC public school system to which you mentioned earlier since you can not even reread your own post properly...then attack me for something that you stated. Good job...anything else?

Jimbonecrusher, you should probably stop replying. You are only making yourself look worse each time that you do.

Yeah, sure. Whatever.

You sentiment is noted, and ignored.

Yeah, if you read my post, it sayd "full of rich bratty kids that just need to get hit up side the head a few times." That means that most of the kids are "rich bratty kids". That is a percentage of the overall number. I am not saying that nothing but rich bratty kids live there. It is also full of retirees, and many of my coworkers that commute to the Fayetteville area. Remember, a city can be made up of adults who have kids, and these are called "families". These "families" can have kids who don't follow the laws and sometimes, due to a lack of parenting become law breakers and unruly. These are the kids that I am referring to.

Sorry to piss on your high and mighty view of Pinehurst and its surrounding areas. Pinehurst is quite a nice area, and I would rather live there than in Fayetteville. The housing is too expensive and the drive to work is too far. I settle for a less expensive house and a shorter drive, so that I can still afford to play golf. I am sure that my view points are not going to make headline news and detract anybody from planning a golf vacation to Pinehurst.

BTW, I didn't graduate from a school in Fayetteville. I am a transplant from a State that is ranked far above NC in educational standards. The military brought me here in case you are wondering.

Nice attempt to back track from your original posts, but you made a blanket statement by saying it was full of bratty kids. That is opinion based on no facts at all, and now you are just trying to make it less ignotant sounding. I do not have a "high and mighty view of Pinehurst", but I am also not ignorant enough to make statements like you did.

And I am not surprised that you are in Fayetteville because of the military, a large percentage are there for that reason. It is just not right to make statements like you did, then try to find ways to defend your statement. All it would take is for you to say on here that your original post was too misplaced and abusive, or too one-sided and that your should not have stated that the town was FULL of rich bratty kids. Hell, you can say and write anything that you like, but when you offend people or attack a town with NO facts you should plan on having others call you out on here.