Ok, so he defied pain and suffering and walked away with one of the best major championship wins i've seen for a very long time, but it now looks like he may miss the Open Championship depending on how the knee reacts over the next few days/weeks..

We all want him to be around and playing like this for the next 10 years, he's influence on the game is un-measurable, so the long term health of his body has to be the most important thing.

But if he just plays three, maybe 4 times more this season (The Open, PGA... Fedex Cup) resting his knee in between events, if it's still causing pain and discomfort come september like it is now there is no way he'll play 5 rounds in 3 days at Valhalla (plus practice rounds)

What do people think he'll do... Ryder Cup or Fedex Cup.... Pressure will be on him from fans and US players to be at Valhalla, but if he's rested and doesn't play all 5 rounds, and the US lose again Azinger will be hung, drawn and quartered....

So does Tiger play the Ryder Cup, or play in Atlanta.... I think he'd rather play in The Open and the PGA than skip either, Major's is what it's all about. The Fedex Cup is just money (and he's got plent of that) and the Ryder Cup could put too much pressure on the knee is it's not 110%

Personally we dont need him for the ryder cup any of on here can do what he does might get beat worse but we can still lose like him in the ryder cup and also so sick of him whinig about his knee after he hits bad shots but when he makes a big putt or something he is running around twisting the knee and everything else he could do on a gol course it was a great acting job by tiger on the knee.. WE DONT NEED HIM ON THE RYDER CUP i would rather have kenny perry dj trahan etc

WOW...I am not so sure about all that...He has a bad Ryder Cup record for sure but he IS the best player in the world. By the way, if you look down at the bottom right of your keyboard there are keys for punctuation. There is a shift key there too...

he doesnt care about the RYDER CUP at all come on look at him when he is out there...Ben Hogan is probably turning over in his grave right now on the display of driving he had at the open ..all over the map for being such a great ball striker he is awful with the driver. you need people on ryder cup that want to be on it and have passion for our country like WOODY AUSTIN

Hate to break the news to you, but Tiger isn't the only reason we lose the Ryder Cup. Plus how do you know he doesn't care? Sounds like you are a Tiger hater. Please, please get over yourself, I am pretty sure if you ask anyone on the Ryder Cup team if they would prefer to have Tiger or not, I am sure they would prefer to have him.

How was Tiger whining about his knee?

This might be the worst post I have ever read. As a matter of fact, I might be a less intelligent human being for reading it.

he is selfish and doesnt care about the team and how do I know that he doesn't care well because my uncle played on the ryder cup in 2006 thats how.. none of them like him at the ryder cup he is a waste of space..he will be the greatest individual player ever but worst ryder/president cup player at the same time..

poor guy japepe...

sick of everyone all over tiger..lets give ROCCO credit he played 100 times better than tiger..in this ..if rocco could close his eyes and makes the 70 footers would of blown tiger away..say good bye to tigers game for good everyone..another surgery wont be swinging for the fences anymore and wont catch THE GOLDEN BEAR a true striker of the ball

Now where did I put that can of troll spray???

I suggest you stop posting and start reading japepe.


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You just pointed out the reason Tiger is the best and is always welcome on any team: "if"

Tiger doesn't need "if" 99% of the time. He makes the puts, he recovers from poor driving, he wins.

I would be the first to congragulate Rocco for his play this past week, he deserves lots of praise; but in the end Tiger played best when it mattered most...end of story and I think Rocco would agree.

Tiger will be fine after proper rest, i know many people that not only had knee injures but 2 that have had both knee's replaced. Now granted they don't swing 125 mph but they can & do play very well +1 & 0 hcp. I think too much is being read into this, Tiger will be fine.

yeah your right I wont defend myself when someone replies to my post..have a good one everyone

Dude you need help!!! best thing to do is stop making a fool of yourself and go back into the kiddie pool or sandbox!!!

Your statements have ABSOLUTELY no merit to them and ..........wait a minute, why am I wasting time talking to someone of your intellect or lack thereof??

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I don't recall tiger complaining about his knee? only the media constantly questioning him about it. He played and it was obvious he was in pain, but he did not make any excuses about it

the problem is you are sooooooo NEGATIVE!!! and there is no need for it!!! Tiger doesn't need LUCK to catch Jack..........just time!!! gosh , again your statements have no merit!!! go home..........

If Rocco did then why did Tiger win?

The word "IF" does not work in golf!

this thread has simply turned into some complete idiot tiger bashing. i think the knee took longer to recover from than he thought and playing did it no good but i think people are reading into i too deeply. if he rests it properly then it should recover fine. the one worry is that if he plays in the open, the same type of thing may happen, jeopardising his pga chances

The editor of Golf Digest is predicting he'll play in the British open.

Anyone have info if Tiger is in Mexico looking at a course, or in Utah getting more done on the knee?

First off you talk about Ben Hogan and his story. Tiger admitted in his press conference that his was nothing compared to what Hogan went through. And if your "uncle" is hating on Tiger he's probably just jealous because Tiger wins all the time, and he doesn't. And congrats to Rocco on a side-note for being a stand up guy, I was pulling for him on the weekend but even in his loss he was a class act.

Let's try and move on, and get back on topic guys. No need to comment on the outlandish posts, I think they speak for themselves...

Don't feed the trolls

I think Tiger will play in the Ryder Cup due to who he is, and i think he is needed for morale if anything as having the best player on the planet must be a good thing right?

Personally my view to them not winning it at the moment , is just a team issue. There great players on there own but cant play together.

Just my thought's.

If Tiger played in the US Open he will play in the other two Majors and play the Fed Ex and play theRyderCup

He will probably play a couple of others along the way

How many will he win is the question not if he will play.

One issue I do not hear much about us losing the cup is the golf course and its set up.. If there is one thing our two best players (woods and phil) have trouble doing is hitting the fairways and the courses are set up like US Open courses. The modern players bombs it and makes birdies. That is just one factor

After speaking to a definate US ryder cupper for 08' a few weeks ago (not going to name him, so don't ask) he's 100% convinced that Zinger is going to pick bomber's as his wild card's... JB Holmes, Bubba Watson etc... so I can't see how they'd set the course up like a US Open, especially when Zinger has some say in how it's done being the home captain.

One of my original thoughts was what if Woods plays Ryder Cup but not all 5 rounds...can anyone see that happening realistically....I think Tiger would insist he's good to play regardless, it would almost be an admition of not being up to playing if he didn't.

Maybe the Majors and the Ryder Cup, but I highly doubts he plays in the FedEx Cup.....that requires 3 or 4 weeks of continuous play....I don't think his knee (or tolerance for pain) can hold up for that long continuously.

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He was good enough this weekend to win the US Open based on that he is good to play right now.

Are there any doctors on this forum who can speak intelligently about Tiger's knee? Specifically, an orthopeadic surgeon? C'mon, we all know a lot of you docs like to play golf. There have been so many opinions about the condition of Tiger's knee and how it will/won't hold up. Obviously the only people who really know are Tiger and his doctors (and probably family and close friends), but at least an ortho who has performed that procedure hundreds of times could probably shed some light... Anyone?

Not an ortho surgeon, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night,
and my opinion is, the next golf we'll see TW play is going to be in 2009,
maybe even the Masters. I'll miss him but it may be necessary to prolong his career.

This is the second most ignorant thing I have ever read on here. The number one most ignorant got the guy suspended for 15 days. You do not have ONE SINGLE CLUE what you are talking about. Not one!! You have wasted all of our time reading such worthless words!! Please go away for awhile!!

Talked with one about just this topic. His opinion is that the was more done to the knee than we are being told. A simple scope and clean out of an athlete in Tigers shape and he should be back at it in 4-6 weeks no problem. (other athletes *football players*are back sooner)
Either he didn't rehab (which I don't believe) or there was more to the surgery.
I'm betting he had more damage and may have "caused" more this week.

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You must have heard some of same stuff I did. I don"t think we'll see Tiger again in 08 either. Not good for golf, but good for tour members. Lot's of big tournaments up for grabs the rest of the year if Tiger can't go. Should be interesting the rest of the year in golf and the next couple of weeks in Tiger speculation.

just my $.02, I say we see him at his tourney on july 4 where we only see him as a host, not a player and hes back for the first time to tee it up at the open championship, and at the latest the PGA. but again.....JMO

Amen, too much is being made of it. I was thinking earlier today about how all the top players have suffered golf-related injuries at some point; I can't think of one who hasn't. I mean, at any given time there is probably at least one pro golfer recovering from knee surgery.

Let's give the man some credit. Woods will come back strong. He is a very resourceful guy and I'm sure will find a way through it. He can't stay away from competition too long, it is too much fun for him to win all these trophies. Apparently it never gets old. The reaction to the putt on the 72nd hole dropping, that said it all. Tiger is in this for the thrill of victory, and on Sunday I don't think we've ever seen him quite so excited from making a putt.

I wouldn't be surprised to see only 10-12 tournaments a year as a regular thing though. Which is fair IMO, he's earned it. I mean, he could shut down the rest of this season and he'll still have provided more thrills than the rest of the tour put together.

Tiger admitted I think it was too Rich Lerner that the knee was worse than his camp let on.

Tiger admitted I think it was too Rich Lerner that the knee was worse than his camp let on.

I know we are trying to get away from this.. but to say he doesnt have passion for our country like someone else is crazy. Do you even know anything about his father or the tourney he host where i think military get in free PLUS he played in the pro-am last year in his tourney with 3 military members. That is crazy to even think that. You are entitled to your own opinion but seriously?

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Stress fracture and a bad ACL....yeah I guess he was faking it.

I predict that with Tiger out for the rest of the year because of knee surgery, the US will win the Ryder Cup. Nothing against Tiger, but he's a one-man team. USA will be much more team-oriented with him watching from home.

I don't think that Tiger is the problem. There have been other players on the team who haven't been very team oriented and I don't think Tiger is one of them.

Everyone forecasts Tiger as almost like a cancer to the team and I don't see that. He shows emotion on the course and I haven't seen anything from him that tells me he isn't a team player.

They might win the Ryder Cup, but with the loss of the best player in the world, regardless of his Ryder Cup record, it will be a struggle.

You have to look at the team as a whole. I see Tiger as a team player mroe than Phil is. Although, you don't hear anyone criticize Phil for his factors in the Ryder Cup. Mickelson has been in 6 Ryder Cups and earned 11 points total while Tiger has the same points and only 5 Ryder Cups. Phil is just as much to blame as Tiger is......so let's drop the Tiger bashing and blaming for the Ryder Cup right now!

Another Hate on Tiger Thread.........Go Figure

How about blaming the lack of Ryder Cups on our inability to play as a team? The Euros excel at that and until we can relax, get out of our own way and just play golf, maybe we'll take one. Until then, expect to see a lot of gold starred flags every couple of years.

Agreed .. some will just never get it

I see your logic - take the best player in the world out of your team, and suddenly you won't get ridden as hard as you've been the last 3 Ryder Cups? Spot on.....

I feel the love! I don't hate Tiger. I respect him. His work ethic is out of this world. He's the best athlete in any sport right now. With that being said, the point I was trying to make is his game is more geared towards how he performs. He knows where his misses are. He knows where to leave shots. His four-ball record indicates that once you put him with a partner, someone who plays different than him, he struggles to win.

You can hate me now for posting the thread. Hate me even more if USA gets smoked. But let's just wait and see what happens.

Well it's official now folks, he's out!

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