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Metalhead
I say doubtful after he wins the 14th tomorrow...time for some R&R on the knee...maybe some more MIR's too???
Johnny
nil... he needs reconstructive surgery on that knee... not just scope'd.
Redman
I honestly am gonna have to say 0% for him to return the rest of this year. As said before I believe he is gonna need to have that knee completely reconstructed. And that stinks because even though he lost the Masters, as good as his game is he really could have won the last three.
Metalhead
QUOTE(Johnny @ Jun 15 2008, 09:09 PM) *
nil... he needs reconstructive surgery on that knee... not just scope'd.


I agree..perhaps this may be the last we see him this year...
stage1350
Somehow, I see surgery being scheduled 2 days after the PGA, assuming he wins tomorrow.

Tiger is going to want a shot at The Open and the PGA. Winning the US Open will fire him up to play through the pain as long as he can.

Non-Majors? Count on a no-show.
Nitsua
QUOTE(Johnny @ Jun 15 2008, 10:09 PM) *
nil... he needs reconstructive surgery on that knee... not just scope'd.

Is this conjecture or fact?
GehenHerzog
Does Tiger ever play in the Buick Open? That is a pretty weak field.
venturagolfer87
QUOTE(GehenHerzog @ Jun 15 2008, 10:16 PM) *
Does Tiger ever play in the Buick Open? That is a pretty weak field.


the only year that he hasn't played it is last year. in '06 it became his 50th pga tour win. one of his main sponsors is buick. i say doubtful about those, the buick probably not, the att national is HIS tournament, so whether or not he plays, he'll definitely be there. i don't think that he needs full surgery, i just think that he wasn't 100% back when he started the open and playing 72+ holes of golf didn't allow him to completely recover. from what i heard, it's mostly just inflammation, not like he full blew out his knee again, but i'm sure in the offseason he'll definitely be looking at some knee specialists to see what he can do to make that thing bulletproof, like the rest of his body.
labillyboy
His doctors definitely told him not to play golf for some period of time which would be standard procedure with a scope job like he had. Not knowing how extensive the repairs were; can't say what the recommended rehab should be, but I am pretty certain he is playing right now against the advice of his surgeon.

Even more so look at the stress he puts on that knee those slo mo shots. It makes my knees hurt just watching.

Tiger even said something to that effect in the post round interview... something like "they (doctors) told me don't play golf..."

He is scheduled to play the Buick and ATT.
AirTime23
Chances are his gonna skip all tourneys until the Open. Hopefully his knee didn't take more damage from playing this week. On the other hand, if he wins today, he'll say it was worth it and not waste a second thought.
Big_Guy_Who_Golfs
I don't see him coming back until the PGA Championship. The British is a month away and I don't see him being ready if the knee is bothering him as much as it appears on TV. How would that hold up on a links course with all the weather, etc?
skinkman
yes, the knee is in bad shape..but it's not from new damage..the surgery repaired the damage..it is the healing thats' been delayed and worsened. There is no scheduled new surgery...there will be more rest and rehab...but I also doubt if he will pay at the AT&T..he will be there though..hosting.. clapping.gif
enough high calibre players to make me happy..
DavidR
There is no way that Tiger is going to play in a non-major for the rest of the year...maybe even next year.
mattbbaker
If anyone thinks Tiger would keep playing, US Open or not, if it would risk further, more permanent, career ending damage then you are flat wrong. I believe the knee is just sore from recovery and torquing it for a week straight after the absolute minimum recovery time is just flaring up tenderness. The Buick is 2 or 3 weeks away and I believe he will play and will keep his schedule throughout the year. A couple more weeks of taking it easy and the knee will be back to near 100%. Lets remember, this was not "major" surgery, it was clean up or so we are told. All I know is that it just goes to show how much better he is than everyone else...very little practice, no full 18 practice rounds on a US Open course, having to commit to a swing when he knows its gonna hurt...an inspiring performance to say the least.
wagsgt
We wont see him till the British
snkstaff
I think he will probably play the AT&T and the Open and the PGA. Toss in a few others here and there and the Ryder cup. I do not see Tiger going after the Fed Ex cup. On a different note asked my wife who is in the medical field about Tigers knee. Sho thought with the amount of surgeries he has already had on it that there is a good chance he will have a full knee replcement when he is older, just to much stress on the knee.
Titleist1455
NONE OF US KNOW!

I'm sure Tiger will be seeing the doctor first thing tomorrow AND THEN he will know his time frame and the extent of the damage that he has or has not done to his knee.

Until then, unless you are a knee surgeon, please do not speculate.
nikemike
QUOTE(Titleist1455 @ Jun 16 2008, 09:28 AM) *
NONE OF US KNOW!

I'm sure Tiger will be seeing the doctor first thing tomorrow AND THEN he will know his time frame and the extent of the damage that he has or has not done to his knee.

Until then, unless you are a knee surgeon, please do not speculate.


You're right, "none of us know" anything for sure, but the topic is Tiger's "chance" of playing in the Buick and AT&T. I won't speculate on the extent of the knee injury, but I'd be willing to put down a large sum of money saying he won't play until the Open, if even then.
Titleist1455
QUOTE(nikemike @ Jun 16 2008, 08:34 AM) *
QUOTE(Titleist1455 @ Jun 16 2008, 09:28 AM) *
NONE OF US KNOW!

I'm sure Tiger will be seeing the doctor first thing tomorrow AND THEN he will know his time frame and the extent of the damage that he has or has not done to his knee.

Until then, unless you are a knee surgeon, please do not speculate.


You're right, "none of us know" anything for sure, but the topic is Tiger's "chance" of playing in the Buick and AT&T. I won't speculate on the extent of the knee injury, but I'd be willing to put down a large sum of money saying he won't play until the Open, if even then.


My reply was more directed at the other speculations about the rest of the season and next year, etc.

As for the original post, I think it's very obvious to everyone that he will not be playing for several weeks after this (maybe not even The Open). And no, that doesn't even require a doctor's knowledge to know that.
snkstaff
Man don't get your panties in a wad. This post was pure speculation, don't read and don't post if you don't like it. I like tiger Woods too but god some of the man love for him is just insane.
GehenHerzog
QUOTE(venturagolfer87 @ Jun 16 2008, 01:32 AM) *
QUOTE(GehenHerzog @ Jun 15 2008, 10:16 PM) *
Does Tiger ever play in the Buick Open? That is a pretty weak field.


the only year that he hasn't played it is last year. in '06 it became his 50th pga tour win. one of his main sponsors is buick. i say doubtful about those, the buick probably not, the att national is HIS tournament, so whether or not he plays, he'll definitely be there. i don't think that he needs full surgery, i just think that he wasn't 100% back when he started the open and playing 72+ holes of golf didn't allow him to completely recover. from what i heard, it's mostly just inflammation, not like he full blew out his knee again, but i'm sure in the offseason he'll definitely be looking at some knee specialists to see what he can do to make that thing bulletproof, like the rest of his body.



He hasn't played in it since they changed the date of the tournament...well I guess that was only last year. Didn't the tournament used to be late July, early August?

I don't think he should play, it's a terribly weak field.

It's not on his schedule currently but h usually waits till the Friday before the tournament to commit.
btbridges
Granted, I'm not in the same shape as Tiger (but fairly decent shape, military takes care of that), but I'm going in in 5-6 weeks to have almost the exact same procedure Tiger had on his knee and they told me I probably wouldn't be able to play until mid January. And that was his last procedure, not the speculative ones to come.

I honestly think his chances of playing The Open Championship are slim, and his return to full health won't come until August/September time frame. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he played the last 3 of the FedEx Cup and the Ryder Cup and shut it down until the Target.

Just my $.02, no flaming please. (For the good of golf in general, I do wish him back sooner)
Captain Nimrod
Tiger will play the Open, PGA and Ryder Cup at a minimum. Many of you are seriously underestimating his desire to play and will to win. He hasn't done more damage to the knee that we know of. It appears to be expected swelling and inflammation, which will go down with rest and rehab. He would not have played the US Open if there had been a serious chance of further damage to the knee.
Matt1974
Considering that the AT&T National is HIS tourney and how much it means to him (with his father being in the service) I think he'll play simply to honor his commitment to his father's legacy. That and they are paying him approximately "a f-load" to play!

The Buick, not so sure about, but I would count on him at the AT&T...

Also, he better play...my wife got me tickets for it!

my $.02
mcputter
QUOTE(Matt1974 @ Jun 16 2008, 10:56 AM) *
Considering that the AT&T National is HIS tourney and how much it means to him (with his father being in the service) I think he'll play simply to honor his commitment to his father's legacy. That and they are paying him approximately "a f-load" to play!

The Buick, not so sure about, but I would count on him at the AT&T...

Also, he better play...my wife got me tickets for it!

my $.02


I know that the AT&T benefits Tiger's charities but I'd like to point out that appearance money is banned by the PGA Tour, so Tiger himself isn't getting paid "a f-load" to play. Having said that I'd put the chances of him playing the AT&T as slim and the Buick as none.
msupl
I think he'll take off until the Brittish Open and play his normal schedule after that. It didn't look like his knee was bothering him as much yesterday compared to Saturday. Give it another month and I think he'll be fine, then again I don't have MD at the end of my name.
MGWP
Not until The Open....but allthis talk of reconstructive knee surgery...what the hell are you guys talking about....
you dont reconstruct a meniscus....it is a strange piece of tissue with no siginificant blood supply hence it is hard to heal... totally different to an ACL or MCL but reconstruction at this point is like cutting off a leg if it is broken...get a grip gents...just healing time to rid the joint of all the inlammation...
MGWP
he may show up at both the AT&T and the Buick for all the sponsor stuff but just not play...sort of like Jack at the memorial.
GehenHerzog
QUOTE(mcputter @ Jun 16 2008, 11:01 AM) *
QUOTE(Matt1974 @ Jun 16 2008, 10:56 AM) *
Considering that the AT&T National is HIS tourney and how much it means to him (with his father being in the service) I think he'll play simply to honor his commitment to his father's legacy. That and they are paying him approximately "a f-load" to play!

The Buick, not so sure about, but I would count on him at the AT&T...

Also, he better play...my wife got me tickets for it!

my $.02


I know that the AT&T benefits Tiger's charities but I'd like to point out that appearance money is banned by the PGA Tour, so Tiger himself isn't getting paid "a f-load" to play. Having said that I'd put the chances of him playing the AT&T as slim and the Buick as none.



I think he is talking about Buick paying him "a f-load" to play. In his contract...
GreekGodX
I thought during his interview after the win today with Bob Costas, that he said he would not be playing for a while, or somthing along those lines. The Buick Open is next weekend June 26th-29th and he has a golf clinic at Comerica Park on the 24th. I really doubt he does either of these... As far as the rest of the schedule who knows.
wagsgt
yea tiger said something like he was shutting it down for some time
GreekGodX
Here is a quote from espn.com,
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"I'm going to shut it down for a while," Woods said. He answered "maybe" when asked if he thought he made it worse by playing the Open, and he said he didn't know if he would play the British Open at Royal Birkdale next month.
Analog Golf
For the sake of his health, career, and the golf world at large, I hope he lays low for a while. He's got so much professional golf left in him for years to come, that he could/should just chill for a while and heal up nicely. Then, he'll be back to womp some more a** for many more years. No need to do all the wompin' this year.
finalist
he's done playing golf forever!! ...yeah right.

None of us know anything except he may or may not play in the Open. That's it for now.
sandy
Possibly the PGA, probably nothing else. Regular tournaments and the worthless Fed Ex cup he probably won't show. The term microfractures has been used by a number of surgeons (knee) I play golf with. They are sure his doctors told him not to play this soon. As he said today he has never been very good at following orders.
salblz
Sucks. I just got 10 any day passes or the Buick Open. Missed him last year too.

QUOTE
Does Tiger ever play in the Buick Open? That is a pretty weak field.


R U Serious? Buick is one of Tiger's primary sponsors. Weak field? 2007 field included, Furyk, Singh, Leonard, Verplank, Funk, Lehman, DiMarco just to name a few... Oh, don't forget, ROCCO.. smile.gif
venturagolfer87
QUOTE(MGWP @ Jun 16 2008, 08:34 AM) *
he may show up at both the AT&T and the Buick for all the sponsor stuff but just not play...sort of like Jack at the memorial.


yeah, he was scheduled to do a clinic during the week of the buick, if he does ANYTHING he may show up for that, and i doubt we'll see any full swings. that being said, the fairways of royal birkdale are pretty flat, with only a few elevated greens, so if and when he does go to play the open, i doubt it will be that harsh on his knee, and that's a whole month from now. i highly doubt he further damaged the knee, he just didn't wait for it to be back to 100%. a month of rest and rehab and he should be back to his normal self, where no playoffs will be necessary.
AirTime23
I gather from the coverage that walking isn't the part that troubles him. It's the rotating of the upper leg with the foot staying in position during the follow through that creates the pain. So whether a course is hilly or not shouldn't factor into his decision. But as stated before chances are good he'll show at the Open. Maybe even take off another month before the PGA.
SJFP
Article on the BBC website summing up what has been said about him playing in the short future:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/7458357.stm

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a break for a few months, or the rest of the season including missing the open. Problem might be the Ryder Cup, but if he's gonna skip an Open, he won't have problems skipping the matches either.

The problem is that if he continues to take chances with this not fully healed knee, it's gonna get filled up with pieces of cartilage again real soon. They can't keep removing that scrap it forever, and a prosthetic kneecap, or joint is gonna seriously restrict his movement.

sandy
QUOTE(AirTime23 @ Jun 17 2008, 09:12 AM) *
I gather from the coverage that walking isn't the part that troubles him. It's the rotating of the upper leg with the foot staying in position during the follow through that creates the pain. So whether a course is hilly or not shouldn't factor into his decision. But as stated before chances are good he'll show at the Open. Maybe even take off another month before the PGA.


You evidently didn't see how Steve assisted him everytime he came out of a steep sand trap and off a steep side hill lie. Steep slopes do bother him. Walking does indeed bother him particularly after a number of holes. Anyone that saw him walk out of the clubhouse after monday's playoff would not conclude that walking doesn't bother him. Maybe if he didn't play golf, walking wouldn't bother him.
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