I just looked her:http://www.tpponcourse.net/results/results.aspx?ID=16 and it says Fred Couples was DQ'd does anyone know why?

Just saw on a usga sectional scoreboard that Fred Couples was DQ'd. Cant find any news of it anywhere. If anyone finds a link to what happened please post.

Per USA Today, 26 minutes ago -

"....Couples, who had said this might be the last time he tries to qualify, opened with a 69 at Brookside, but a 72 on the Scarlet kept him out of the playoff by two shots. He didn't sign his scorecard and was disqualified."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/2008-0...577820037_x.htm

Just read over on espn.com that Couples shot 69 in his first round and then shot 72 in his second and missed qualifying by 2 shots and so didnt sign his scorecard and thus was officially DQ'd, so in reality he missed out anyways did not get DQ'd out of the Open.


-Ben

He didn't sign his card because he was upset????? I thought John Daly did crap like that, not Freddy? Way to go Freddy, ya loser.

But unlike john daly couples loss there was done and over with and he had nothing to gain by signing the card so who gives a ratts can. you know.

No, in reality he got DQ'd. The professional thing for him to do would've been to sign his card like he does every week, sign a few autographs and move on. But he can't do that I suppose. His ego wouldn't let him get over the fact that he had to try and qualify and couldn't do it.

But he's supposed to be a professional. True professionals just don't walk off the course in a huff and not sign their card. Hacks like us do that.

PLEASE tell me you are kidding and don't really believe the nature of this rediculous post ... PLEASE

Who are to get on your f'in high horse? Who are you to be a moral authority over poeple you have never met? Who cares if he doesn't sign, its not for money, and it has no effect.

And how can you possibly jump to the conclusion that he was anything but amiable after the round with spectators and such?

No one cares about your views on how people "should" act.

I don't know look I just don't see the harm really maybe I am missing the point but this is no where near as bad as JD that walks off midhole. That is garbage.

For the use of a Belly Putter

When you play in a Qualifying event you come in and your out of it What is the point to signing

If I was the USGA as well as Freddy has played lately I probably would have considered him for and invite.

Freddy Couples has never been anything but a gentleman and does not deserve to hear crap about this.

Who am I? A "nobody", just like you but I have an opinion and if you don't like it move on. I thought that signing your card after a round was something that was supposed to be done regardless of what you shot, win, lose or draw. Apparently you think it's fine just to walk off and not sign a card. Whatever floats your boat. But if you're playing in an official tournament with me and you walk off and not sign your card you're an a$$hole in my book.

EXCEPT for the time he dropped the F bomb on a fan on LIVE TV.

Sign the card Fred

As far as I know it's not in the rules that you must sign your card, but for not being in the rules book, it's pretty damn important. Unless you're a primadonna like Couples that is.

who cares, not like was going to threaten a win...

Most certainly the funniest thing that'll be said in this thread! 100% correct!

Its a qualifying round and counts for nothing else, why should you care what someone else does with their score?

It's called being courteous to your fellow competitor. There's nothing hard about doing that.

isn't it quite possible that he turned it in and maybe...forgot. mistakes happen. AND there was nothing riding on it. he missed the cut for the play-off.



meh.

How does finishing the round out then simply not siging the card doing any kind of disservice to any other competitor exactly? You can try to defend your comments, but they were completely off-base and unnecessary.

Why is signing a scorecard corteous to a competitor? We does it matter to you is I whipe my a$$ with a scorecard, signed or not, it really is none of your business what a person does with their scorecard, ever. If he chooses to tear up his scorecard after a round why and how is that rude or incorteous to you? Seriously, why and how? It just makes no sense. This is just like another thread I had recently...the entire country would be much better if people would stop telling others what to do...and stop caring what everyone else is doing. Freddy not signing a card did not affect the round in any way and did not change a single persons round but his own, after it was over. Stop being a back-seat driver and telling others how to live their lives and just do what you think is right. You are ok to care what other do/think if it is illegal or affects your life in any way...but what he did was neither,, so if that bothers you, you need to deal with it and stop caring about others actions so much!

u know how many guys at that qualifier just walked off without signing their scorecard? just because he's a pro golfer doesn't mean he always has to be a pro role model. he's human like the rest of us. oh and, if i had to pikc one pro role model, it might just be fred couples... never cusses, throws clubs, yells at fans or photographers, spits in cups,.... etc.

"Completely off base and unnecessary"? Really? Wow. Imagine if I would've really laid into Freddy what your reaction might have been??? Dude, I said that I thought he was a loser for not signing his card. Judging by your reaction to all of this one would've thought I called Freddy the "Anti-Christ". But we all know that's Obama!

Wow, now I'm telling Freddy how to live his life???? I'm definitely not qualified to do that. But I do think I'm qualified to tell you that you should've stepped off your soap-box a little earlier because you went from talking about signing a scorecard to Big Government 101!

Not singing a card is a immature thing to do. something that a pissed off 16 year old would do. not a seasond vet like freddy. its immature and below him.

WOW!!!!! Why are you getting so worked up over this? It sounds like you have personal issues that run deeper than this thread, my friend. No one's telling anyone how to live their life. I have to agree with Simp on this one. He should have done the respectable thing and just signed his card. No big deal, I'm not telling anyone how to live their life, just sign the card. It's what your supposed to do after a competative round. Is this a big deal just becuase it was Fred Couples?

I guess it would depend on his reasoning. Did he just forget to sign his card? O.K., he's forgiven - let's move on. He wasn't going to play in the US Open anyway.....OR......Was he upset he didn't make it (the more likely situation) and didn't sign it because he's a whiner and felt like stomping off to the locker room. We all know he's a whiner, he has been for years. He complains about not being able to keep up with the younger guys in his interviews, but then hits it as long as anyone when he's on the course. He says he's tired of this, tired of that, he can't compete anymore, bla bla bla.

Now, that said, I love to watch him swing the club, but at the end of the day, he's a whiner and a drama queen. If you read his latest interview in Golf Digest, he even he admits he's not a very pleasant person. I've also personally heard him throw F bombs to fans at PGA events.

...my 2 cents.

I agree 100%

I am also possitive that every other person signed there card even if they shot 90-90, this game is about integrity and what Couples did was wrong...regardless of his past. We can not look passed the fact that this game is one of the last honest ones and at this pace it wont be for long

The kid from the southern school (bama or Arkansas) that called a penalty on himself at the masters this year after his ball moved after he soled his putter has more of my respect the Couples does

My $.02

does anyone know for sure whether or not it was on purpose or a mistake? doesn't sound like it.





does this look like a guy who would poo on golfs good name?




he didn't sign his card....BIG DEAL!!!............so don't root for him at Torrey. Oh wait...he won't be there. WHO CARES!

Truth is....Fred originally forgot to sign his card. He walked off, and was being interviewed for a radio show, and was signing an autograph when an official walked up and said "Freddie, you forgot to sign your card..." Fred casually replied,"I wouldn't have made it anyway would have I?" The official replied no. Fred then finished with saying "That sure would have made a story on PGA today if I had!" gave the official a quick wink, signed a spectators hat, and walked away. Sure sounds like a horrible display of sportsmanship to me. Not. I have met Fred on 4 occasions, and he has been nothing but the utmost gentleman, probably one of the nicest guys on tour.

duckhooker....


good call.



people get their panties in wad at smallest things....and then jump the gun to boot.

the golf community because what seemed to be such a class act just gave the game the finger

and if it was indeed just a mistake (which seems unlike likely since this guy has played in over 1,000 tournies) then I will stick my foot in my mouth and apologize.

As for you picture....I'm sure I can find a great picture of Bill Clinton hugging his wife, does that make him not a womenizer?

Nice post crabby.

if this is the case then im wrong

I figured it was something like that, Red.

rednumbers69...that photo was supposed to be a funny-ha-ha.


but again....some people can't take a joke.


and i didn't see freddie give anyone the finger. looks like he FORGOT to sign his card.....and if that translates to 'the bird'.....hmm..so be it.


golf is indeed a harsh game.


ETA: or wait, is it a sport?

Truly a remarkable thread.......... 3 or 4 muni-course 15 handicappers throwing out their 2-cents on the topics of scorecard etiquette and how to handle the dissapointment of missing out on qualifying for US Open by 3-shots. What...... no pets in the neighborhood to kick???

if you failed to see my last post I admitted that I was wrong if that was the case I apoligize for my first two posts in this topic.

i knew that was coming :popcorn:

Fred is okay in my book. I had a Lab just like than and she loved the pool too. As far as a Clinton, he neglected Buddy and he got hit by a car. Just like the dog he had when he was gov in Ark that was also hit and killed by a car.

I give Fred the benefit of the doubt. He is a class act, he still plays very well, has played great golf for ages and maybe he had a really bad day.

agreed, and i should have given him the benifit also.

as he might have had a bad day...so have I and I again eat my words in my first few posts

and that's what's cool andrew.....i eat my words a lot. i should diet.


it's cool.


but that one question never got answered....


how does not signing your score card affect your fellow competitor? now if you don't sign theirs....they'd have a case of the arse....but not signing your own...only hurts one person....


simp mentioned it and was asked about it....but he never answered....

i understand what your saying and I've seen my fair share of people do it.

IMO if you just flat out dont sign your card because you are upset it doesn't show any respect for your competitors. In an era deffined by the next best way to get a leg up, golf has remained a game of respect, and from personal experiences I have found that not signing your card at the end of the round shows insecurity as you are embarrassed by your score. We are all trying are best and just because you have a bad day doesn't mean you shouldn't sign your card, most will think less of you if you dont sign your card instead of posting an 80.

i agree. but the only person this affects is you. and if i'm playing and you don't sign....your loss. doesn't harm me in the least.



and trust me...i've signed some seriously embarrassing cards. all you can do is smile and laugh it off. if i hadn't have taken that [9] on the 34th hole....i would've made the cut? sweet.

Unbelievable submission! Just so we're clear, what's the minimum handicap required in order to post opinions on this site? And are the requirements now that you've had to be in a situation before you can comment? We might as well shut the site down now...sorry everyone I guess we have to go home now.

I see where your coming from.

When I started taking the game seriously about 5 years ago I would shoot 95+ in tournies and still sign my card. One event I played with a good player that thought he was better then he was and only cared about what other people thought about him. I shot 101 he shot 79. I signed my card with out a thought of not signing it, he didn't. It benifited me since it was one player I acually "beat" but I lost respect for him. Now, 5 years later, my game has developed alot, his, some, every state tourny we compete for the win as do some others and all of us think of him the same way.....

Thats the way I see it, it just hurts him/her in more ways then one.

well said

and much more subtle then my reply, also more apropriate

Kudos

Candidly Andrew, I had not even bothered to read all of the way through to your posts, so my comments were obviously not directed at you specifically. However, in reading further into the thread, I continue to stand by earlier comments and do so regardless of your flowery opinion(s).

Oh... as for your offer to play a friendly match, I'm thinking that the water might be just a little too deep at this end of the pool.

ha.
I think your wrong

But my opnions are "flowery" so why am I even posting anyway?