OK.... So A. Kim is good... it is clear.... But not to long ago Martin Kaymer war Making birdies like it is going out of fasion... how is better KAYMER OR KIM???????????????????

Kim. Next question.

I honestly have never heard of Martin Kaymer

look at the world rankings, hes somewhere around the top 30. won during the gulf swing on the european tour and did very well at doral. hardly been out of the top 10 this year and is looking set for our ryder cup team. as for the original question its tough since they're both racking up the performances on their respective tours so i don't know but it would be a fun match to watch in the ryder cup singles. birdie central

How can you expect a US dominated forum to even know yet what you are talking about?

Kim has won against Mickelson, Singh and lots of US mainstream golfers on the PGA Tour. He is therefore known by most PGA Tour viewers.

Kaymer has won against Scott, Stenson, Westwood, Donald and lots of Europe's mainstream golfers in Abu Dhabi on the European Tour. In Dubai, he has lost against Tiger by only one shot and bettered Els, Stenson and others in that process. He isn't known by most PGA Tour viewers because most don't know where or what Europe is, nor do they care

Kaymer has finished the Masters at T46th and missed the cut by just one shot. Kim has yet to play there.

All in all, I give Kaymer the edge in terms of talent and maturity. Kim is more vocal in terms of attitude or cockiness.

It has the potential to be one of the more exciting duels for the next tow decades.

Larry

I vote Kaymer. But thats because I'm European!

Ok just been reading a bit I am impressed with his stats except for his putting needs work.
http://www.europeantour.com/default.sps?pa...;playerId=32204



the world rankings I just do not understand Kim has won once and he is 16th and Kaymer once and he is 33

Els cant make a cut and he is fourth a system that needs to be redone.
http://www.owgr.com/rankings/default.sps

I think we need a wait and see on both of these kids

i will put my money on anthony kim any day!

Kim...he has matured very quickly and has no weaknesses in his game.

kim...just seems like too many of the young Euros fizzle out. Justin Rose is good, Luke Donald is good, etc., but none are great. I think there is the potential for Kim to be great and Kaymer to be just plainly good.

Just because this no talent clown assumes that all Americans are insular, I want to say Kaymer...but I don't believe it to be the case. Kim seems more fundamentally sound, less balky with the putter, and less prone to the 'big miss." However, I believe they'll both be standouts on the world stage for the next 20 years...

Is Kim good now? Yes, he is. Will he be good in 5 years? Probably, I am guessing he will have at least 3 more wins. Probably a s*** event, and 2 respectable ones. Not a Players, or a WGC, or a Major.

Kim. Only time will tell.

Now that is really a strange statement. Show me that list of hot young US prospects again ... Is Sean O'Hair still on it? Charles Who? Then there is also that other bloke ...

Rose, Donald, Casey, Kaymer and others all have solid consistent games and major potential. Rose won the European Order of Merit last season. You will probably see at least a couple of the others at Valhalla this autumn.

He didn't assume anything. Several people said they didn't know who Kaymer was. Hence they can only have been looking at US coverage (and missed him at the WGC and Masters). Many US posters here more or less boast that they are insular, caring only about the PGA Tour.

It's a bit early for this U.S. vs Euro trash talk! C'mon your guy's dollar is bashing ours! Isn't that more legitimate as far as true world dominance goes? C'mon, let's hear a chant, "E.U., E.U., E.U." and so on. Well, I suppose that doesn't ring quite as well - maybe if you lengthen the "E" for two beats, and then a quick "yoo". That'll work.

Cheers,
Ben

P.S. This is to be read tongue-in-cheek.

I love my country, as bone-headed as it can be, but I agree, we can be an insular bunch. This is, however, a golf forum, so the Euro tour, at least from my point of view, is as relevant as any out there. Kaymer is good player, but so are Ross Fischer, Alvaro Quiros, Rory McIlroy (sp.?), etc. Just wait a few years, golf leaderboards are going to look as colorful as tennis matches do now.

If the question were who's emergence has more of an impact...it would have been Kaymer hands down, as there are roughly 500k golfers in Germany as opposed to 25m (?) in the US, and we've been waiting for someone to step into Berhard's shoes for a long while so to speak. You guys heard of him, right?

Anyways, so far Kaymer has had his difficulties playing on the big stage, but his game is pretty solid. Talking about a guy backing up a 59 with a 62 the next day...Kim surely is more on the radar winning a big time event with the Wachovia. But as somebody already said we'll have to wait and see what happens next, but they're gonna be big stars that much is for sure.

OK... this is what makes it a tough call for me... Kim is with no dout a huge talent! but what would he be like with Tiger in his wing mirror??? Kaymer is the kind to finish Birdie (3) Eagle(3) Birdie (3) to try and get a chance to play Tiger in a play-off.... how do you back... both can win... but can they win with tiger in the field?

Both massively talented. Kim is the first young American in a while that has really made me sit up and take notice. Obviously O'Hair and Moore and people of that ilk are good players and will have good careers but Kim will be a huge star.

Kaymer, as said by a few other posters, needs to improve his putting, if he does, he will win A LOT of tournaments.

Nice. Way to put this question into the proper xenophobic context, Larry.

For the record, I know where Europe is. I watched Kaymer in the Middle Eastern swing of the European Tour (by the way, does the European Tour know where Europe is? Just asking). As I recall, he also did well in some of the African events.

I still choose Kim. Not because I am American, but because I think he is the better player. This is not to slight Kaymer, who I think is really good and has a very bright future whereever he chooses to play.0

I'll sort of bob about in an open boat near the Azores somewhere waving a white flag of truce...

I think both Kim and Kaymer look to be tremendous prospects for the future. Kim has made an excellent start to his pro career; he is riding the wave of a fantastic performance last week, and he looks to have a very solid all-round game. His swing is technically sound and amongst the best on Tour, he has a solid short game and a reliable putting stroke. He also seems to have an old head on his young shoulders. In short, he looks to have all the tools to be a great future prospect.

Kaymer is certainly an exciting talent. A very good swing and a fantastic ballstriker who has the ability to light up the course with some electrifying play. He's performed admirably thus far on the big stage and in the company of the world's best, and again seems to be very level-headed and to have an old head on his shoulders. Again, he looks to be a tremendous prospect for the future.

In terms of Justin Rose, he's currently the reigning European Order of Merit Champion and had consistent results in all for majors last year. I'd argue it represents his best season yet - and hardly qualifies as 'fizzling out' as some have suggested.

Donald is a solid overall performer, but would be the first to admit that his recent results have fallen short of what he, and others, have come to expect.

There are many decent prospects from both sides of the atlantic (and indeed from Down Under and South America) and it looks to be an exciting time for golf over the next few years. Kim and Kaymer are possibly the best bets amongst the young crowd (along with Romero) to go on to great things in my opinion.