larrybud
Mar 9 2008, 06:12 PM
As I watch nearly every player puke on their shoes on the way to the clubhouse today, I thought, "Man, that Tiger sure is intimida...". What's that you say? Tiger isn't in the field? But.. but, that's not possible. I mean, almost every player in the final three groups was over par today, and only Tiger does that to people?
So what is it? Well, it's no wonder Tiger has won as many as he has. All you have to do is not give up 4 shots in the final 6 holes, and you win the tournament. These guys need some real help in learning to WIN.
On a side not, what exactly was the punishment for the O'Hair group being put on the clock? They didn't make up ANY time on the group in front of them by the end of the tournament, so what was the point?
Diesel
Mar 9 2008, 06:25 PM
funny cause as i was watching the coverage, my wife made comments about some questionable shots taken...
guys blowing shots over greens putting it in the tree off the tee, bunkers off the tee... missing 4 foot putts etc...
what was that about the competition being so much better today as opposed to 20 years ago...?
HeadonaStick
Mar 9 2008, 06:33 PM
I was out playing here in sunny Florida today.
Unless you have played in 20+ mile an hour winds (with gusts in the 35+ range) you have no idea what it does to your game.
Bad putting I can't explain, but putting it in trees, bunkers, over the green, short of the green, in the gallery or anywhere else does not surprise me in the least.
larrybud
Mar 10 2008, 04:17 PM
QUOTE(HeadonaStick @ Mar 9 2008, 07:33 PM)

I was out playing here in sunny Florida today.
Unless you have played in 20+ mile an hour winds (with gusts in the 35+ range) you have no idea what it does to your game.
Bad putting I can't explain, but putting it in trees, bunkers, over the green, short of the green, in the gallery or anywhere else does not surprise me in the least.
I've played in every imaginable weather condition, but Sunday the weather was perfect for those guys.
HeadonaStick
Mar 10 2008, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(larrybud @ Mar 10 2008, 05:17 PM)

QUOTE(HeadonaStick @ Mar 9 2008, 07:33 PM)

I was out playing here in sunny Florida today.
Unless you have played in 20+ mile an hour winds (with gusts in the 35+ range) you have no idea what it does to your game.
Bad putting I can't explain, but putting it in trees, bunkers, over the green, short of the green, in the gallery or anywhere else does not surprise me in the least.
I've played in every imaginable weather condition, but Sunday the weather was perfect for those guys.
I've played in almost everything as well, including two approaching hurricanes!
I was out Sunday, here in Florida. I would disagree about perfect - it was windy as hell!
That said, I'm no pro, so maybe they like the wind. For me it wreaks havoc on everything, spin, trajectory, flight, draws, fades, everything.
victor2000
Mar 10 2008, 04:41 PM
QUOTE(DieselMp32 @ Mar 9 2008, 05:25 PM)

funny cause as i was watching the coverage, my wife made comments about some questionable shots taken...
guys blowing shots over greens putting it in the tree off the tee, bunkers off the tee... missing 4 foot putts etc...
what was that about the competition being so much better today as opposed to 20 years ago...?

Oh, I am sure the guys on the Champions Tour never did any of this stuff. Come on. The golf course played hard. Sure, there were mistakes but there always is. Stewart Cink is going to be a Top 5 player in the next 2 years. He just needs to learn how to control his emotions better. He has already won so he knows he can do it. BTW, have you ever read about Palmer's double at the last to lose the Masters??? It happens to everybody.
Swingtheclub
Mar 10 2008, 05:03 PM
doing a backwards search of Palm Harbor, Florida weather yesterday it was blowing five to ten early afternoon but by 4pm it was dead calm.
Just the same its a very hard course and its a lot of pressure
For future reference one of the worst things if it is windy is putting.
klima
Mar 10 2008, 06:13 PM
QUOTE(HeadonaStick @ Mar 9 2008, 04:33 PM)

I was out playing here in sunny Florida today.
Unless you have played in 20+ mile an hour winds (with gusts in the 35+ range) you have no idea what it does to your game.
If you're a pro, you should be able to adapt to any weather condition thrown at you. You should also be able to hit a knock down at request. Last I checked, the temperature in Tampa was still pretty sweet compared to Vancouver. Let's see them play in the wind, rain and 5*C (41*F). Not to knock the Tampa conditions, but I've played down there in the wind and it was not that difficult. Perhaps it's because I'm so accustomed to those conditions at home.
ChrisM84
Mar 10 2008, 06:38 PM
I live in the Tampa Bay area, and I played on Saturday and Sunday. Saturday was brutal. The wind from the tail end of the storm cell we got on Friday night was hammering this area.
Sunday the wind was bad, but not nearly as bad as Saturday.
HeadonaStick
Mar 10 2008, 07:36 PM
QUOTE(kenk7us2002 @ Mar 10 2008, 06:03 PM)

doing a backwards search of Palm Harbor, Florida weather yesterday it was blowing five to ten early afternoon but by 4pm it was dead calm.
Just the same its a very hard course and its a lot of pressure
For future reference one of the worst things if it is windy is putting.
Fine, you've convinced me.
1. The wind was a figment of my imagination. There was no wind. My hat is possessed and flew off of its own accord and my golf balls are all lopsided.
2. These guys suck.
Swingtheclub
Mar 10 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE(HeadonaStick @ Mar 10 2008, 08:36 PM)

QUOTE(kenk7us2002 @ Mar 10 2008, 06:03 PM)

doing a backwards search of Palm Harbor, Florida weather yesterday it was blowing five to ten early afternoon but by 4pm it was dead calm.
Just the same its a very hard course and its a lot of pressure
For future reference one of the worst things if it is windy is putting.
Fine, you've convinced me.
1. The wind was a figment of my imagination. There was no wind. My hat is possessed and flew off of its own accord and my golf balls are all lopsided.
2. These guys suck.
I was not trying to convince you of anything. Florida is a big state I have no idea how close to the Pods event you were.
I did not see much of the tournament what I did the wind seemed down so I checked.
At no time was I attacking your statement or anyone elses. There seemed to be a question if it was windy at the tournament so I checked.
1big_whipper
Mar 10 2008, 09:11 PM
I thought as I watched it that it seemed like nobody wanted to win the thing down the final stretch. But that happens sometimes and it allowed a good but not great round by O'Hair to win. If you tuned in to see exceptional golf it was not on display. Fortunately it is not the norm.
BEND OF THE RIVER GC
Mar 10 2008, 09:11 PM
That course was set up at over 7300 yards.
I was VERY surprised to see that the average driving distance at the PODS was only 270 yards.
For the record, Tiger would have killed that course, it was a more traditional style course and he tends to eat those up.
Too bad he doesn't play the PODS.
skinny99
Mar 10 2008, 09:37 PM
I played Wed,Fri,Sat and Sun and I live in central florida. The wind was tough all of the days, I have never had a ball get blown of the tee or shake when you go to putt it before. It was tough for sure, but I did hit one about 350 downwind with the roll it was coool! It was tougher than I ever thought it would be to play in that wind. Todd
Diesel
Mar 10 2008, 09:43 PM
i was under the assumption pros were able to hit the ball low and try and keep it out of the wind...
call me crazy, but maybe all those GI irons on tour are killing the ability of players to make "shots"...
from 148 yards there's no reason a professional blows it 10 yards over the green, when there was no apparent wind at the time... possibly there was way above the trees, but then why are you putting the ball all the way up there...?
sambo400 II
Mar 11 2008, 07:54 AM
Because the course was difficult, you clowns. People shoot high scores in majors, and you never criticize the players. none of you could break 80 on that set up, and you know it.
ChrisM84
Mar 11 2008, 11:34 AM
I wouldn't go as far as saying that none of us could break 80 at Innisbrook. Set it up like a US Open, and I'll agree with you.
cb_golfer
Mar 11 2008, 11:57 AM
QUOTE(victor2000 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:41 PM)

QUOTE(DieselMp32 @ Mar 9 2008, 05:25 PM)

funny cause as i was watching the coverage, my wife made comments about some questionable shots taken...
guys blowing shots over greens putting it in the tree off the tee, bunkers off the tee... missing 4 foot putts etc...
what was that about the competition being so much better today as opposed to 20 years ago...?

Oh, I am sure the guys on the Champions Tour never did any of this stuff. Come on. The golf course played hard. Sure, there were mistakes but there always is. Stewart Cink is going to be a Top 5 player in the next 2 years. He just needs to learn how to control his emotions better. He has already won so he knows he can do it. BTW, have you ever read about Palmer's double at the last to lose the Masters??? It happens to everybody.
I bet my buddy green fees for Cink to win. He calls him Stewart "Lawn Chair" Cink since he folds under pressure. I think he needs to fix the space in between his ears to get a win, let alone to crack top five.
avrag
Mar 11 2008, 12:46 PM
QUOTE(sambo400 II @ Mar 11 2008, 01:54 PM)

Because the course was difficult, you clowns. People shoot high scores in majors, and you never criticize the players. none of you could break 80 on that set up, and you know it.
QUOTE(ChrisM84 @ Mar 11 2008, 05:34 PM)

I wouldn't go as far as saying that none of us could break 80 at Innisbrook. Set it up like a US Open, and I'll agree with you.
I will probably never play that course in reality in my life, but i can say one thing: Innisbrook Copperhead is extremely difficult, even when you play it in a computer game

. I have it for the old but still beautiful Links LS, and when i first tried it, i kept thinking to myself "where the h*** is the fairway?" and that was on just about every hole. it is a complete mystery to me how mark calcavecchia could shoot an 62 there last year.
larrybud
Mar 13 2008, 02:18 PM
QUOTE(sambo400 II @ Mar 11 2008, 08:54 AM)

Because the course was difficult, you clowns. People shoot high scores in majors, and you never criticize the players. none of you could break 80 on that set up, and you know it.
I don't see what my skill level has to do with the top players in the world choking down the stretch. Are you trying to tell me that these guys know how to win?
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