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itw419
I am looking for a new putter. I have tried almost everything i am interested in except for the new odyssey white hot tour and the new MacGregor's since ithey are not out yet. Here is what i have narrowed it down to: Scotty Cameron studio stainless Newport or Newport 2. ( non insert), Ping Redwood anser style, or a Mizuno Bettinardi BC2.

Does anyone have any input on these putters to help me make my decision? thanks.
fatcat
anything scotty cameron
myndcraft
Well depending on where you actually are in MI why dont you make a trip to Studio B?
itw419
QUOTE(myndcraft @ Jan 28 2008, 06:29 PM) *
Well depending on where you actually are in MI why dont you make a trip to Studio B?


I am not sure what that is.
itw419
QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 28 2008, 06:31 PM) *
QUOTE(myndcraft @ Jan 28 2008, 06:29 PM) *
Well depending on where you actually are in MI why dont you make a trip to Studio B?


I am not sure what that is.



Ok i figured it out but a trip to Chicago might be out of the question. Unless i can talk the wife i to making it a weekend.
myndcraft
Of your choices thats the one I would recommend if you can swing it. And if you need it, Mi case, su casa. lol
malasuerte
If you want something that will be with you for a long time, and something more personal and original, I highly recommend a Byron Morgan 007. Better than Scotty IMO. Everything about it is awesome. My buddy got the SS 007 and it is gorgeous and plays out of this world.

I have a Black Oxide with red paintfill for my name on the face and center with Byron on the neck.

This one is similar to mine: Byron 007 pics
mab1633
Cameron - No doubt about it!!!
ptman
You need to call it.

I can't call it for you.

I wouldn't be fair.

BEND OF THE RIVER GC
SKIP the Scotty Cameron sticks and take a SERIOUS look at C&L and Byron 007 stainless putters, I guarantee you will like them much better!
withdrew
budget?
You can't go wrong with any of those, they're all proven...

I have a PING Redwood Anser and just got a Byron, the PING is sweet and I'm imagining the Byron will be even sweeter!
MchSt805
I think it's such a subjective matter it's hard for someone to say what "you" want from those. I've tried nearly every Cameron possible from the retail lines, and still seem to like my Odyssey Black #2 better than most of them. The only Cameron that compared to me was the Studio Style Newport 2, which everyone hit pretty hard on here...exactly why it's all personal preference. If you do decide to go with one of the custom makers, Byron, C&L, Slighter, etc. than people can give you quite a bit of input on that issue. As far as retail putters you might need to give some more details of what you're looking for or what you'd like to know about them.

Are mallets out? There's a whole new topic if it goes that direction. Let us know
CooGAR
Putt with what YOU LIKE....not what everyone else thinks you will like because they have one.

Anything Cameron???? Please.....

You guys are they same people that would recommend a Rolex to someone wanting a fine watch.
itw419
My budget is around $250 and that is why I am really not considering a Byron or Slighter. I would imagine that they are more expensive than my price range? I really like the anser style heads.
jcigars
QUOTE(MchSt805 @ Jan 28 2008, 09:13 PM) *
I think it's such a subjective matter it's hard for someone to say what "you" want from those. I've tried nearly every Cameron possible from the retail lines, and still seem to like my Odyssey Black #2 better than most of them. The only Cameron that compared to me was the Studio Style Newport 2, which everyone hit pretty hard on here...exactly why it's all personal preference. If you do decide to go with one of the custom makers, Byron, C&L, Slighter, etc. than people can give you quite a bit of input on that issue. As far as retail putters you might need to give some more details of what you're looking for or what you'd like to know about them.

Are mallets out? There's a whole new topic if it goes that direction. Let us know



I agree it's all a personal preference. We can sit here all day and tell you what we like. Good luck I hope you find the perfect one.

Jimmy
scotchblade
QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 29 2008, 05:40 AM) *
My budget is around $250 and that is why I am really not considering a Byron or Slighter. I would imagine that they are more expensive than my price range? I really like the anser style heads.

How about a Slighter Tacoma FPR? I've got one and it's awesome. Slighters run higher than the others, so this is an excellent price. No wait either, you'll have it in a couple of days. There is no sight dot or line, but I'm sure Tom will add one for a little extra. Mine has neither and I don't miss them at all. This is a thick, chunky, bad boy of a putter and that's what I'd go with if you want to stick to budget.
http://www.japrechaun.com/fpr/
myndcraft
You could check out Coutour Golf. I have heard very good things about them from a mini-tour player, but I'm not sure if they have a fitter in your area.
knudson81
first off, i love all my SC's, but out of those choices i would go with the ping. the only reason i would recomend that is all the custom fitting wrx can do with it and from what i hear, it is cheaper to customize then a cameron? someone who has one can maybe verify that?
freelanceterry
All good suggestions.

Save yourself some dough and get fitted for a new ping karsten.
Good reviews on here and putter talk.

$100 for a new, fitted, proven design/brand putter??!!!??
I don't know how you'd go wrong.

Worst case scenario you've got $150 left over in your budget you can pick up a nice peice off the bst.
knudson81
freelanceterry - That is a great idea! everyone on the bst usually has great stuff for $150 budget. you can have a choice of premium putters from people who take care of their stuff and want to see it in a better home. darnit, i wish i would have thought of that!
Garbear
QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 28 2008, 03:19 PM) *
I am looking for a new putter. I have tried almost everything i am interested in except for the new odyssey white hot tour and the new MacGregor's since ithey are not out yet. Here is what i have narrowed it down to: Scotty Cameron studio stainless Newport or Newport 2. ( non insert), Ping Redwood anser style, or a Mizuno Bettinardi BC2.

Does anyone have any input on these putters to help me make my decision? thanks.


I've sold 3 Scotty's, including Newport2, and still have two older ones, don't use them. I play on typically fast pvt club or resort greens. With Scotty's my ProV1X always seems to come off the face a tad hot affecting my distance control; yet the head weight felt good in my hands.

Last week I purchased a Odyssey Black Series i #7 with a multi-layered insert. I suspect when these are out a while they will be chewing into Scotty's biz. yahoo.gif They not only have the head weight better players like, they come with or without the insert, 6 different heads and slightly different stats then SC's. I can't tell you how excited I am about love mine... the ball rolls pure and actually starts to roll faster then SC's. Prior I'd been playing Whitehot#5 since introduction while SC's collected in my office.
wkuo3
QUOTE(freelanceterry @ Jan 29 2008, 09:42 AM) *
All good suggestions.

Save yourself some dough and get fitted for a new ping karsten.
Good reviews on here and putter talk.

$100 for a new, fitted, proven design/brand putter??!!!??
I don't know how you'd go wrong.

Worst case scenario you've got $150 left over in your budget you can pick up a nice peice off the bst.


Second to that idea and probably get 2 of them fitted to me. and a box of Bridgestone or Srixon.
justhackin
Buy the look and feel you like and then get fitted for it. I was fitted and then backweighted for my rife. Some of the best money I have ever spent on golf was the fitting.

hackin
hull17rw
I would invest in a Byron Morgan or a C & L 350 Milled putter over one of the stock bigger brand name putters. They wil cost a bit more but you can have it custom made the way you like with the finish and stampings and also the lie and length. If you do not know what lie and length putter is best for you get fitted for a Ping putter and you figure out from that what to order.

Kevin
HULL17RW
freelanceterry
QUOTE(hull17rw @ Jan 29 2008, 09:47 AM) *
I would invest in a Byron Morgan or a C & L 350 Milled putter over one of the stock bigger brand name putters. They wil cost a bit more but you can have it custom made the way you like with the finish and stampings and also the lie and length. If you do not know what lie and length putter is best for you get fitted for a Ping putter and you figure out from that what to order.

Kevin
HULL17RW


Both C&L and Byron make top-quality stuff.
But unless you've gamed one for some time and know that it's going to be a "lifer" - I'd advise against custom stamping as a selling point for these.

Get one stamped "Fred" and the resale value decreases.

As an "investment"....you could go with an otherwise blank C&L or Byron, slighter, Mills, etc. (there are a lot of good ones). Then you'd always have the option of sending it back to get some stamping/custom work done if it works out....or sell in on the bst if it doesn't.
I'm guessing a putter of this ilk with limited custom stamps would not only be a smaller initial investment on your part, but command a higher resale value when you go to sell.

I'd think at least it would appeal to more buyers.
Like painting your house neutral colors prior to selling it.
BigMike300c
the studio stainless is a great putter i played one for a few years, then i got a Seemore i'v only got to take it out once (thanks to the winter) and so far i like what i feel in it.. the set up is like your cheating
sbmarto05
QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 28 2008, 03:19 PM) *
I am looking for a new putter. I have tried almost everything i am interested in except for the new odyssey white hot tour and the new MacGregor's since ithey are not out yet. Here is what i have narrowed it down to: Scotty Cameron studio stainless Newport or Newport 2. ( non insert), Ping Redwood anser style, or a Mizuno Bettinardi BC2.

Does anyone have any input on these putters to help me make my decision? thanks.



QUOTE(MchSt805 @ Jan 28 2008, 07:13 PM) *
I think it's such a subjective matter it's hard for someone to say what "you" want from those. I've tried nearly every Cameron possible from the retail lines, and still seem to like my Odyssey Black #2 better than most of them. The only Cameron that compared to me was the Studio Style Newport 2, which everyone hit pretty hard on here...exactly why it's all personal preference. If you do decide to go with one of the custom makers, Byron, C&L, Slighter, etc. than people can give you quite a bit of input on that issue. As far as retail putters you might need to give some more details of what you're looking for or what you'd like to know about them.

Are mallets out? There's a whole new topic if it goes that direction. Let us know

You couldn't be more correct, it is very subjective. I have always prefer ed a mallet putter. A few years back I pick up an Odyssey off the rack and sank 2/3 putts from 35 feet (sold) I bought it on the spot. It worked great for a couple years. Then I seen the ping cra-ze and decided to give it a try. I was hot and cold with it. Last year I went back to Odyssey. I bought a 2 ball srt because of the reviews in the GD hot list. It felt great but I struggled with it for about 10 rounds. I almost gave up on it but, I didn't and by the end of last season I was averaging 30.4 putts per round which was a good improvement for me.
cloudlx
It is all pretty subjective, opinions will differ from golfer to golfer. Like many on here, I have feel like I have putted with everything under the sun and it all came down to my Slighter. The advice is good here on the subject of custom putters, I got mine with no personal stamping but will probably send it in next winter because it is now my gamer.
malasuerte
Maybe give the Teardrop a try>Looks interesting


http://www.thefreelibrary.com/TearDrop+Put...n...-a054662447
muxi87
Gauge Design by David Whitlam...he makes any style you could want and the roll and looks are amazing!
TracyS
If you can bump up your budget just a little bit, I think you could get a Byron. Check with Zman. Not sure about the C&L's but I think they are in the ballpark as well.
hull17rw
QUOTE(freelanceterry @ Jan 29 2008, 08:45 AM) *
QUOTE(hull17rw @ Jan 29 2008, 09:47 AM) *
I would invest in a Byron Morgan or a C & L 350 Milled putter over one of the stock bigger brand name putters. They wil cost a bit more but you can have it custom made the way you like with the finish and stampings and also the lie and length. If you do not know what lie and length putter is best for you get fitted for a Ping putter and you figure out from that what to order.

Kevin
HULL17RW


Both C&L and Byron make top-quality stuff.
But unless you've gamed one for some time and know that it's going to be a "lifer" - I'd advise against custom stamping as a selling point for these.

Get one stamped "Fred" and the resale value decreases.

As an "investment"....you could go with an otherwise blank C&L or Byron, slighter, Mills, etc. (there are a lot of good ones). Then you'd always have the option of sending it back to get some stamping/custom work done if it works out....or sell in on the bst if it doesn't.
I'm guessing a putter of this ilk with limited custom stamps would not only be a smaller initial investment on your part, but command a higher resale value when you go to sell.

I'd think at least it would appeal to more buyers.
Like painting your house neutral colors prior to selling it.


I am talking a putter for the guy to game and enjoy, not an investment or paint colors, C'mon. Is he going to buy an Odyssey because he wants to make sure he can resell it. He could get Custom stamps that would enhance the value whether he keeps it or sells it, I didn't say stamp his name all over the putter and be stuck with it. You gotta think.

Kevin
HULL17RW
freelanceterry
Well....I'm just saying that a custom c&l or a byron is out of...or at very best, tops of his price range.

I know that it would be a big investment on my part to get one done up to my specs/stamps. And a risk if I haven't hit one and it turns out to not be "right".
A greater risk than one not stamped.

Some people like snow. Others don't. Some people like a site dot, etc. etc.
A blank one or a shelf putter may apeal more to the masses.
Which of course is moot if he is keeping it.

Sorry if I mis-understood "investment" as you wrote.

hull17rw
QUOTE(freelanceterry @ Jan 29 2008, 12:59 PM) *
Well....I'm just saying that a custom c&l or a byron is out of...or at very best, tops of his price range.

I know that it would be a big investment on my part to get one done up to my specs/stamps. And a risk if I haven't hit one and it turns out to not be "right".
A greater risk than one not stamped.

Some people like snow. Others don't. Some people like a site dot, etc. etc.
A blank one or a shelf putter may apeal more to the masses.
Which of course is moot if he is keeping it.

Sorry if I mis-understood "investment" as you wrote.


When I used the word invest I was meaning he should just spend the money on a Byron or C & L. It was my error to use invest in the first place as I should have just put buy instead of invest and save the confusion. I see your point as to keeping the stamping low but if he choses to sell whether he adds snow or clover stamps or something the putter would find a buyer just the same. Get what you like and enjoy it first and foremost.

Kevin
HULL17RW
silliwilli
Have to agree, seems to be a simple enough task selling a Byron. Lots of demand!

Ill put another vote in Byron, based on customer service lone. Steve/ZMAN has been great to deal with and I'm sure I'll further endorse the company when I receive my putters smile.gif
MchSt805
QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 28 2008, 06:19 PM) *
I am looking for a new putter. I have tried almost everything i am interested in except for the new odyssey white hot tour and the new MacGregor's since ithey are not out yet. Here is what i have narrowed it down to: Scotty Cameron studio stainless Newport or Newport 2. ( non insert), Ping Redwood anser style, or a Mizuno Bettinardi BC2.

Does anyone have any input on these putters to help me make my decision? thanks.

Back to the original post at hand here, we're discussing the 3 putters it's been narrowed down to. I feel like we've all just started naming what our favorite putters were and not really helping a decision be made here. The Studio Stainless is a solid putter, I used one for a bit of time. Newport isn't my style, I like the more defined edges of the Newport 2 style. The Redwood Anser is classic...that about says it all. BC2 brings up the question of visual finish appeal, do you like the black as opposed to the plated satin or stainless steel looks.

The biggest thing I can think of here is the weight. The Scotty's you can get in 330g, 340g, or 350g. The BC2 is set at 343g and that's it as far as I know. The Redwood, I'm not positive the weight (someone else can fill that in), but I know you can get it changed through Ping relatively easy. If you have a preferred head weight and one of these meets it, than maybe that is a deciding factor.

I have not had experience with all 3 of your options, but this is what I've come up with. As for as the custom made putters, if it's not in your budget than don't hesitate ruling it out. Nothing against any of those guys, they make a quality product and customer service is above most. But I'd say start with something more cost effective with the most aspects you like. If someday down the road you really know what you need in a putter than maybe you can look at the Byron or C&L. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.
silliwilli
QUOTE(MchSt805 @ Jan 29 2008, 11:26 PM) *
The biggest thing I can think of here is the weight. The Scotty's you can get in 330g, 340g, or 350g. The BC2 is set at 343g and that's it as far as I know.


absolute nonsense
itw419
Thanks for all of the advice. I would love to get a custom putter but right now i think it is out of my price range. The only option my be the Slighter Tacoma. $250 is at the top of my budget and if at all possible i would like to stay below it. I stopped by Golfsmith today, just because it is on my way home, and tried some more putters. I will stop by Miles of Golf this weekend because they have a much larger putter selection. I really like the Redwood but the recent advice on the Karsten is also appealing. It doesn't feel as good but that is a large price difference. I still like the Cameron and the Bettinardi also. I am a very indecisive person so this is not going to be easy. I guess if i could find a used redwood or studio under $200 that would make it easier, on the other hand i don't want to settle on something due to price. I got a feeling this is gonna take a while and thankfully for me i am in Michigan and have some time before the golf season starts.
silliwilli
If its between these 3 then I'd get the Mizuno as it has an option of weighting and no insert!
MchSt805
QUOTE(silliwilli @ Jan 29 2008, 06:52 PM) *
QUOTE(MchSt805 @ Jan 29 2008, 11:26 PM) *
The biggest thing I can think of here is the weight. The Scotty's you can get in 330g, 340g, or 350g. The BC2 is set at 343g and that's it as far as I know.


absolute nonsense

If I'm only comparing 3 putters, one of the bigger things I came up with was weight. Again people, this is completely subjective. Opinions are all you'll be getting. Nonsense to some, completely relevant to others...


QUOTE(silliwilli @ Jan 29 2008, 07:13 PM) *
If its between these 3 then I'd get the Mizuno as it has an option of weighting and no insert!

Also, none of the 3 mentioned have inserts. And does the BC2 have weighting options? Thought it only came in 343g, but please correct me if wrong.
uncle rico
Check out the Slighter web site. There was a model listed today for $249.00.
BPG24
QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 28 2008, 05:19 PM) *
I am looking for a new putter. I have tried almost everything i am interested in except for the new odyssey white hot tour and the new MacGregor's since ithey are not out yet. Here is what i have narrowed it down to: Scotty Cameron studio stainless Newport or Newport 2. ( non insert), Ping Redwood anser style, or a Mizuno Bettinardi BC2.

Does anyone have any input on these putters to help me make my decision? thanks.



QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 28 2008, 05:36 PM) *
QUOTE(itw419 @ Jan 28 2008, 06:31 PM) *
QUOTE(myndcraft @ Jan 28 2008, 06:29 PM) *
Well depending on where you actually are in MI why dont you make a trip to Studio B?


I am not sure what that is.




I have a good friend that just got back from Studio B

He said his experience was wonderful. They did everything you would expect to get him fit into a new Betti and still stay in his budget. Top notch service
Ok i figured it out but a trip to Chicago might be out of the question. Unless i can talk the wife i to making it a weekend.

freelanceterry
You could pick up a Mizuno TPM.
I game the 3 and it's really soft/solid.
That would be a sub $100 experiment.

Find the look you like and then go with a used version of many that are listed on here with similar shape to the one you liked.
Might luck out and get a nice gamer on the cheap.



Jurell
I think you shall try ping Redwood anser or Odessey Black series
N1CK_1PUTT
The white hot tour #1 is definitely worth a try. I just picked one up and it is awesome! The weighting is great, the roll is excellent, and the new tour insert is just as good as the black series i insert. But go with the one you feel most confident with, its all a matter of personal opinion. Also if you really want a custom putter go to 350milled.com you can get a quality custom putter for under $300
NCNickentGuy
QUOTE(CooGAR @ Jan 28 2008, 11:28 PM) *
Putt with what YOU LIKE....not what everyone else thinks you will like because they have one.

Anything Cameron???? Please.....

You guys are they same people that would recommend a Rolex to someone wanting a fine watch.

Could not have said it better myself! clapping.gif
davewalji
Anything Cameron, byron, c & l, etc, all great putters no doubt, but we forget,

a putter is not another club in the bag, but its an extension of urself.

its personal, it gives u confidence, and heart ache, its the difference bewteen the winning the masters, and loosing sunday morning golf.

there a putter out there, for every type of player,

i say, try everything, and when you find the right one, ull just know.


remember, just cause its not a scotty, or betti, or even if its something u find in the trash,
doesnt mean its not the right putter for u.

Putting is about feel, about confidence, about u and ur game

not about the price, or brand

Happy hunting

Dave
shepdog
I would say that between the 3 you are looking at, that asthetics would be a deciding factor. I have tried all 3 and the feel on each one is beautiful. You should be able to try the Ping and Bett at your local golf store. Getting ahold of a studio stainless will be a little tougher since you can only find one used. But, if that strikes your fancy try the new studio select, another Scotty that is as nice as the Ping or Bett.
slicer365
If you are going for resale, then that's a no-brainer, Scotty Cameron is your putter, but if you want a tour-style putter on a budget then the White Hot Tour is your putter.
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