I know I'm relatively new here, but what is up with people posting the results of sporting events the very second that they are final? I've never been on a message board where it happened this much.

I mean, is there some prize for the first person to post "CONGRATULATIONS ______________" in the title of a post?

In this day and age of VCRs, DVD recorders, DVRs, TiVo, OnDemand, etc, there are so many people delaying the watching of sporting events, it's inevitable that a spoiler post will ruin someone's enjoyment of a game. Especially on days like today where there are multiple events like playoff football and the final rounds of 3 golf tournaments. I can see that it's already happened twice today. What is so hard about making the title "Name of Sporting Event - SPOILER" and then putting whatever you have to say in the message itself? It just seems like common courtesy to me.

And for those who will inevitably respond "Just stay of of the message board if you don't want to know the outcome" - why shouldn't people be able to enjoy all of the other posts on the site without having to worry about having spoilers posted? Is it really more important for 1 person to say "Congratulations ___________" than it is for everyone else who is taping sports to be able to read about things like the PGA show while they are watching playoff football, for example?

I just don't get it.


okay, rant over.

I always wonder why people complain about seeing the winner of a golf tournament when they willingly log onto a golf website...hmm.

I appreciate the original post because not everyone feels like I do about it. But I don't mind spoilers most of the time. When I get home the first thing I do is hunt down the current scores or who won a tournament. Some people aren't like that. To each his own.

Personally, I am all for spoiler warnings even though I don't actually care about spoilers myself.

because some people log on to GolfWRX for more than just tournament winner results

im with littlepingman, i always check for winners and scores so spoilers don't matter to me, but i can appreciate that a lot of people do tape/record games to watch later

a spoiler warning is just common courtesy, its not a lot of effort to add one in the title anyway

I would say that if you know that it happens on here, log on after you watch the tourny that you are dying not to find out who won. I mean if you know that it happens on here more than often, WHY WOULD YOU LOG ON????? do it after you have watched you dvr-ed tourny. In the day and age of the the internet, there are hardly any sports based websites you can log onto immediately after a game and not see who won a game.

I just don't get the logic. If you want to stay out of the loop until you have watched your show, then stay out of the loop...bottom line. It is all on you as you know who and where the culprits are. I could understand if you did not know beforehand....but since you do, it is all on you.

Dan

I for the life of me can not understand why a person would expect others to base their comments on his DVR selections. In the age of instant reporting of news and world events, how can a reasonable person expect to venture into the public (an internet chat forum is the public for all intents and purposes) and be shielded from seeing / hearing about current events. If seeing the outcome without any spoilers is a persons priority they have 3 choices:

1. Go to the event live
2. Watch on TV live
3. Live under a rock until they watch their taped version

I respect the OP's position, but for ME, I can't understand why anyone would TiVo or DVR a live event, especially a sporting event.

I love sports, obviously golf, of course football (american), baseball, basketball, etc. Once the outcome has been decided, that's it for me. I couldn't watch a Mets game on TiVo knowing that the winner was already decided. I can catch the highlights or spectacular plays on Sportscenter, and I can catch the witty commentary and popular sports news on PTI. I also don't TiVo American Idol results shows because again, the outcome has already been decided and I'm not going to sit through a whole show just to see who goes in the end.

Like I said, I do appreciate the OP's position, there is always a mad dash to congratulate winners and post spoiler comments and what-not, I don't think he should have to avoid GolfWRX altogether just because it's understood that this happens. It would be courteous for those who feel like congratulating the Patriots or Tiger Woods (because Tom Brady is definitely lurking GolfWRX rather than banging Gisele Bundchen, and as soon as a tourney is over Tiger is definitely looking for on-line approval).

It doesn't matter to ME because I don't TiVo live events, but I think a spoiler warning wouldn't be a bad thing.

I think it's common courtesy and common sense to put a spoiler warning into a thread title - together with some indication of what the subject/tournament is.

It allows people to discuss the winner/result if they so wish within the body of the thread, but doesn't give the game away to people who don't want to know the result - yet still allows them to log on to the site and read/post as they see fit in other threads.

Just an observation and opinion, but it always amazes me to see how easy it is for people to rationalize inconsiderate behavior.

Yes and it is just as easy for people to blame others when they could do something about it themselves.......JAT

DG

*Also why would you log onto a golf website knowing that there was a tournament recently and hoping to not see a post about the winner....That is like hoping on to TMZ and hoping to not see the latest news on Brittney......Does not make any sense to me.

DG

Sure, if you can rationalize banning a person from all the other conversation that is a part of GolfWRX as a reasonable solution, when simply showing a minimum of courtesy allows them to participate, then you have a point.

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Even TMZ warns you they are about to show a segment on Brittany before they actually show the segment...

What a bunch of CRYbabies!

I don't give a dam if you have Tivo'ed all the channels....It's not Our responsiblity to keep your secret event a surprise for you!

However I don't mind putting "Spoiler" in the title...I just get sick of alll the premadonna's that cry everytime someone forgets!

No one is baning anyone....you have a choice when you log on knowing that there may be something on there that could tip you off to who won the particular tournament that you are worried about. If YOU choose to log on, it is your decision and on you, no one is forcing you to log on, and it is not every other persons responsibility to worry whether you have watched or not watched. You are responsible for your own actions, bottom line. I cannot control what anyone else does, that is out of my realm....I can only control what I do.

If me not knowing who won a tournament is that big of a deal, I am not going to go to a website that's sole focus is golf, golf tournaments, golf equipment, etc.....like I said before...does not make sense to me.

Should ESPN hold off on announcing the winners of a football or hockey game until they are sure that everyone who has tivo-ed or dvr-ed the game has watched it????

DG

Crybabies and premadonnas (sic)? There's an overreaction, and stop with the name calling.

Spoiler warnings are a courtesy, and as Richard and Ryan have tried to imbue this place with a country club atmosphere, common courtesies are of paramount importance. I work at a place where I don't get to watch TV, but I am on the internet a bit. That said, except for the few games involving my school, I won't bother with TiVo as I won't ever get around to watching it later.

But I'm the guy who had to google 'TMZ' so I'm not exactly relevant to current trends and whatnot.

Hmm.. sounds like rationalizing inconsiderate behavior to me. People are just asking that the outcome be placed inside the thread. If you do that, you are being considerate of those people who want to participate in the other conversations that go on here without ruining their enjoyment of an actual tournament.

You would like to be absolved of responsibility because those people could avoid the place if they choose to...

I'm not sure that ESPN is a great example either. They are very clear about the times that sports wrap-up and reporting shows are on, and what time the entertainment shows are on. Kind of like warning people when the spoilers are coming up so they can avoid that particular part of ESPN and enjoy the rest...

It really doesn't matter to me, so you guys can continue the head knocking...

I really don't condone inconsiderate behavior....but you need to define who is it inconsiderate to? Is it towards you because you don't want to see the results, or are you being inconsiderate to the other guy that might want to see the results in the headline and talk about them??

As far as the ESPN example.....I was refering to their website, which like Golfwrx is available 24/7....so my point was if you are wanting to avoid the scores of a specific sport (my examples being football or hockey), you stay away from ESPN.COM because they will have up to the minute information....very similar to the posts on golfwrx.....if you don't want to know, you stay away for a little while.

And I might be wrong here, but when you log onto golfwrx, don't they take you to the main page, and then you can select where you want to go from there???? So again if you are wanting to not hear about the score of a tournament I think you could figure a way to not go to the tour news part of the forums or wherever the post of this weeks winner would be.

If the spoiler caveat could be applied 100 percent we would not even be having this discussion. But since it is not...here we are. I agree that the spoiler tag should be applied out of courtesy for those who have not seen the tourny. But it appears that it cannot be applied everywhere all the time, so since that it is not going to be 100 percent, I feel that people as individuals have an inherent responsibility relative to their choices and actions. So if you choose to come to the site around the time where a spoiler thread may be, and you have not seen the results you run the risk of seeing it. Right or wrong, it is there........In a perfect world the spoiler thread would be in effect all the time.

Dan

I feel the burden is on those who choose to avoid the live coverage in the first place. When people want to discuss the outcome of a sports event, I believe it's fair because once it's happened, it's now in the past...it's HISTORY. A spoiler is more like when you're forced to watch tape delay coverage, as so often is the case with LPGA coverage, and you want to maintain the suspense because you have no other choice. Or when someone tells you the ending to a movie you haven't seen, that is a spoiler. It just doesn't make much sense for the majority to have to cater to the small minority of folks who tape an event for their own convenience.

The sad thing is people don't have the decency towards others to have a title such as " Sony Open Results! Let's Discuss" instead of "K.J. Choi Wins the Sony Open! Let's Discuss." People can argue all they wan't about the responsibility of the viewer browsing all the topics but forums are all about tons of different threads and subjects. Does creating a topic title really mean so much to you that you could irritate others?

its not like we're logging onto pgatour.com and expecting not to have the results revealed to us
its golfwrx, we might just be logging on to see what some of the new topics are, its not necessarily restricted to tour news
and yes you could just say "Sony Open winner! what did we all think", instead of insisting on putting the winners name in the title, which isn't essential anyway. most of us are into golf enough to have a good idea about what's going on in the thread by just reading the title

I agree that forums are all about tons of different threads and subjects. But isn't it each user's responsibility to decide what content is right for him or her to look at? Honestly I can see both sides of the issue here, but I think for simplicity's sake, those people who tape live coverage, just go ahead and go that extra mile of also avoiding the internet, or at least certain websites if you don't want to see results. It's like with car collisions - the person who hits from behind is always at fault. Is that ALWAYS true in reality, maybe not. But that rule is totally fair and really simplifies that whole issue for everybody.