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CLEVELAND59
This weeks cover pic for Golfweek...a picture of a noose. How classy.
Baller
This should get real interesting russian_roulette.gif
Roland
What is that all about out of interest?
BallSpinner
From the front page of golfweek.com





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Cover story: Kelly Tilghman saga

Editor’s note: In response to a number of inquiries about the Jan. 19 cover of Golfweek, which can be found on the homepage of Golfweek.com, here is the accompanying story and Golfweek editorial from the issue.

By SCOTT HAMILTON
Senior Writer


“Lynch him in a back alley.”

That retort, intended to be a back-door compliment for Tiger Woods, required about three seconds to tumble from Kelly Tilghman’s mouth during Golf Channel’s Jan. 4 broadcast of the Mercedes-Benz Championship.

Two days passed before she apologized on air for the remark and five days went by before Golf Channel handed down a two-week suspension without pay, and then only – whether related or not – after it had drawn the ire of a well-known civil-rights activist. But as drawn out as the process was, there is little doubt the ramifications of that off-the-cuff comment will linger. Golf rarely contends with controversy, and the few flaps that do occur usually are limited to the insular world of golf.

Tilghman’s remark escaped golf’s biodome and slipped into the mainstream where it is fair game to everyone with a microphone or a computer. Change of some sort – major or minor, right or wrong – was bound to result.

Golf Channel already has revised a scheduled management training session to include sensitivity education on diversity issues in an effort to prevent and react to similar instances. It also is questioning internally why it took so long for a public apology to materialize and the suspension to be doled out.

That investigation could result in punishment for other Golf Channel employees, particularly the on-duty producers of the Mercedes-Benz.

“There were a number of factors that came into play,” Golf Channel president Page Thompson responded via e-mail to Golfweek. Thompson is a former senior vice president and general manager of video services for parent company Comcast who took over as Golf Channel president last spring. “But the bottom line is we need to look at our process and see how we can move more swiftly in the future.”

Thompson said no discussions had been held with regard to firing Tilghman. He would not speculate whether Golf Channel might scale back the number of events Tilghman works as lead anchor upon her return.

As of Jan. 14, Tilghman was slated to resume her duties 10 days later for the first round of the Buick Invitational. However, there had been conjecture by Golf Channel insiders that Comcast will order Tilghman fired before her suspension is up and that fill-in Rich Lerner will take over permanently. Tilghman, 38, who has risen through the ranks in 11-plus years at Golf Channel, also could be assigned to other duties. Before taking on anchor duties for Tour telecasts, Tilghman was a host of Golf Channel’s “Golf Central” nightly news show.

“It was a horrible analogy, and she will be kicking herself for a long, long time to come,” said Michael J. Whelan, a former Golf Channel executive who hired Tilghman. “That’s live television; people do make mistakes. . . . You have to think about what you are about to say and the ramifications of what could be said. What sounds so cute and funny in your mind comes out horrific. That little line in Kelly’s head was a cute little idea. Once she said it, everything stopped.”

Other sportscasters’ careers have been damaged or destroyed by spontaneous on-air comments. But Tilghman’s situation is unique, as she is the first female lead anchor in PGA Tour history and is as much the face of Golf Channel in its landmark 15-year deal with the PGA Tour as is six-time major winner Nick Faldo.

Assigning a man to that position immediately after Tilghman’s gaffe could be seen as a setback for other women looking to move into the 18th tower. On the other hand, reinstating her as if nothing had happened could stain Golf Channel’s – and Comcast’s – image.

“That was a totally unacceptable choice of words. I’m actually surprised that she’s only getting two weeks’ suspension,” said Rosie Jones, a former LPGA player and Golf Channel commentator. “You wouldn’t want someone to lose their job or their career, but I thought two weeks was a short amount of time.”

The incident in question began harmlessly enough.

During their usual post-round banter as they wrapped up Day 2 at the Plantation Course at Kapalua, Tilghman and co-host Faldo discussed young players who might challenge Woods. Faldo jokingly said perhaps the youngsters should “gang up (on Tiger) for a while.”

The pair chuckled before Tilghman responded by saying, “Lynch him in a back alley,” and turned back to the camera smiling broadly. Golf Channel said it received a limited number of complaints regarding the comment. Tilghman explained the incident during the final-round broadcast after having already reached out to Woods herself.

She later sent out another apology in a written statement saying she “used some poorly chosen words. I have known Tiger for 12 years and I have apologized directly to him. I also apologize to our viewers who may have been offended.” Mark Steinberg, Woods’ agent, called the matter a “complete non-issue” and said he considered the “case closed.”

But the Internet and mainstream media wheels kept turning, resulting in the Rev. Al Sharpton calling for Tilghman to be fired during a Jan. 9 interview on CNN. He said his National Action Network would picket Golf Channel headquarters in Orlando and boycott the station if action were not taken. Golf Channel issued a statement later that evening saying Tilghman had been suspended for two weeks “for offensive language.’’

“While we believe that Kelly's choice of words were inadvertent and that she did not intend them in an offensive manner,’’ the statement read, “the words were hurtful and grossly inappropriate.” One source inside Golf Channel said the decision to suspend Tilghman had been made shortly before Sharpton appeared on CNN. A PGA Tour spokesman said the Tour didn’t weigh in on Tilghman’s fate, describing Golf Channel’s action as “an internal decision.’’ The Tour says it plays no role in choosing or rating the performance of on-air talent.

Regardless of the decision process, some observers argue even suspending Tilghman is overreacting despite the negative connotation of “lynch.” Context and intent, they say, is more important than the words used.

A recent comparison involves radio host Don Imus, who last spring spouted racial and insensitive remarks regarding the Rutgers University women’s basketball team. After one week of a growing outcry from civil-rights groups, including Sharpton’s, Imus was fired from WCBS. He returned to radio late in the year.

“Imus has a long history of making nasty, vicious, bigoted comments usually at poor people or oppressed people, people who can’t fight back,” said civil rights lawyer and radio talk show host Ron Kuby. “Kelly’s comment was about a very powerful person who also happens to be her friend and she was praising him. She was using mind-boggling offensive phrasing, incredibly stupid phrasing, and that’s the way broadcasters get themselves into trouble. . . . (But) the attacks on her are misplaced. ”

While Tilghman’s career hangs in the balance, her Southern roots have become fodder for critics and supporters alike.

Tilghman is a daughter of a prominent family in North Myrtle Beach, S.C., prompting speculation as to why the term “lynch” would pop into her mind ahead of others. Her experience also has been questioned; her promotion to the anchor role 13 months ago marked Tilghman’s first foray into live “play-by-play” announcing.

Tilghman, meanwhile, has remained silent, declining to respond to phone calls or e-mails sent to her by Golfweek. Woods has commented only through his agent. He is sure to be asked about the matter when he makes his first 2008 Tour start Jan. 25 at the Buick Invitational.

“Accept the apology and move on. We all say dumb things,” said Dr. Harry Edwards, a consultant of the San Francisco 49ers and a sociology professor at the University of California-Berkeley.

Edwards was a prominent civil rights activist in the 1960s who urged sprinters Tommy Smith and John Carlos to give the clench-fisted “black power” salute as the “Star Spangled Banner” was being played during their medal presentations at the ’68 Olympics.

“If we stopped the train every time somebody made a dumb remark that is potentially offensive, we’d never progress as a society. We’d be in big trouble.”
Cbey77
WOW. The cover seems a bit much. I really hope we all got the point about Kelly's comments. However, based on some of the post regarding the comments, many did not. I really enjoy dialog and open and honest conversation. As a Black man, educator, working history professional, and human being, I believe that open conversation can be a powerful tool for positive social change. However, I'm not sure if a noose helps the conversation. But, I guess it does help sale magazines. This is not good.
archeraz
My response to Golfweek via email. I've since read quotes from the editor that he put the cover on to provoke "...intelligent dialogue..." and his only cover choices were a picture of Tilghman or a noose. I would submit that the discussion his cover provokes will be anything but "intelligent," and that latter statement is ridiculous. He clearly had other cover choices; he just chose to go with the tabloid alternative.

I am currently an online subscriber through Zinio. For some years now, I’ve been one of Golfweek’s biggest fans. Where the other magazines, your competitors, increasingly have become filled with glitz and glamor groveling at the feet of the major manufacturers that make up their advertising base, your magazine has always epitomized the best of journalistic integrity. Your stories, features, and editorial opinions have always well-researched, balanced, and fair. Sadly, that is no longer true.

To say that I was shocked when I saw the cover of your latest edition would be an understatement. I would expect to see such a cover from one of the myriad of schlock tabloid offerings that line the checkout aisles of my local grocery store; to see it from a magazine I have always admired is disturbing. Your choice to use the image of a hangman’s noose on your cover in order to “…add some perspective to it…” is despicable and could serve no legitimate journalistic purpose.

I’ve read the self-serving online editorial dated 01/16/2008. It’s factually correct as far it as goes, but it not only fails to explain the decision to put so reprehensible a cover on your magazine, it neglects to mention the existence of the cover. Instead, you lay the blame for the entire incident at Tilghman’s feet. Clearly, what she said was offensive, and as you say, it was “…the story of the week.” Neither of those facts explain or excuse your callous decision.

I realize that writing a letter to magazine is akin to spitting into the wind, but there should be some consequence for your actions, however puny those consequences might be. Absent an apology to your readers, consider me a former subscriber. Once my current subscription expires, I will not renew.


stage1350
If they were trying to make a point, the least they could have done was take the photo of the noose in a back alley.

Nice sensationalism.
vwgolfer
That is awful. Worse than the comment by Kelly.
Ogre41
QUOTE(vwgolfer @ Jan 17 2008, 01:51 PM) *
That is awful. Worse than the comment by Kelly.



I totally agree with you. The fact that they went to that level shows that they are worthless on their own and they needed the publicity.
20something
Didn't know Comcast owned The Golf Channel.
Talk about a bunch of idiots. No wonder things at TGC aren't getting better.
KT screwed up. Let it go already. She made a comment that she wished she hadn't. Golfweek produced that cover with a lot of thought. Doesn't seem to be lighting up the Internet like KT's comment did and it seems much worse.
bstevens2008
anything to sell magazines for a failing publication. so when do you think the time tiger does a photo shoot for them?
KDMullins
So now you can't have a picture of a noose either? Come on guys. Do you want to boycott Webster's Dictionary, too? There's all sorts of offensive stuff in there.
tbarr15
This is getting ridiculous. I have lost a lot of respect for Golfweek. I guess on the other hand they are supposed to portray the news, but this is way overboard. Shame on Golfweek.
KDMullins
I guess I just look at this differently. If you're GolfWeek, i.e. a golf news magazine, and you want to raise awareness about an issue (like racism) (and you want to sell some magazines...make no mistake, that's priority #1) you put something on the cover that will catch people's attention. If the issue is racism, what better image than a noose. Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words. I think it speaks volumes because it is shocking...just like KT's words.
bambooluv
QUOTE(KDMullins @ Jan 17 2008, 01:33 PM) *
I guess I just look at this differently. If you're GolfWeek, i.e. a golf news magazine, and you want to raise awareness about an issue (like racism) (and you want to sell some magazines...make no mistake, that's priority #1) you put something on the cover that will catch people's attention. If the issue is racism, what better image than a noose. Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words. I think it speaks volumes because it is shocking...just like KT's words.



I cannot agree with you more, however I feel in my own opionion the underlining topic has been blown out of proportion. This cover will do nothing but throw fuel on the fire. The media especially the non-golf reporting ones have taken this in such a horrible direction. It's a mistake, and I understand that,"the mic is always on." Kelly just chose the wrong words for an ACCEPTABLE statement. It is all in the eye of the beholder. Just sad its gotten to this point. My 2 pennies.
Pete
KDMullins
QUOTE(bambooluv @ Jan 17 2008, 02:54 PM) *
I cannot agree with you more, however I feel in my own opionion the underlining topic has been blown out of proportion. This cover will do nothing but throw fuel on the fire. The media especially the non-golf reporting ones have taken this in such a horrible direction. It's a mistake, and I understand that,"the mic is always on." Kelly just choose the wrong words for an ACCEPTABLE statement. It is all in the eye of the beholder. Just sad its gotten to this point. My 2 pennies.
Pete


I agree with you, too. good.gif Great minds think alike! Seriously, it has been blown out of proportion. Don't get me wrong, the comment was horrible, but I truly believe her intentions were not. I've said it before and I'll say it again...it's sad more than anything else.
Cbey77
QUOTE(KDMullins @ Jan 17 2008, 03:57 PM) *
QUOTE(bambooluv @ Jan 17 2008, 02:54 PM) *
I cannot agree with you more, however I feel in my own opionion the underlining topic has been blown out of proportion. This cover will do nothing but throw fuel on the fire. The media especially the non-golf reporting ones have taken this in such a horrible direction. It's a mistake, and I understand that,"the mic is always on." Kelly just choose the wrong words for an ACCEPTABLE statement. It is all in the eye of the beholder. Just sad its gotten to this point. My 2 pennies.
Pete


I agree with you, too. good.gif Great minds think alike! Seriously, it has been blown out of proportion. Don't get me wrong, the comment was horrible, but I truly believe her intentions were not. I've said it before and I'll say it again...it's sad more than anything else.



Guys,

I think we are all saying the same thing. The noose does have shock value and I don't think that people are reacting to the noose like its something racial. I think the reaction is coming from the fact that the conversation was getting to a point where people were listening to eachother. And I have had some really good conversations with folks about this. The noose is just in poor taste and not needed to have constructive dialog. Kelly's words already gave us that. The noose was not needed at this point.
stage1350
QUOTE(KDMullins @ Jan 17 2008, 01:33 PM) *
I guess I just look at this differently. If you're GolfWeek, i.e. a golf news magazine, and you want to raise awareness about an issue (like racism) (and you want to sell some magazines...make no mistake, that's priority #1) you put something on the cover that will catch people's attention. If the issue is racism, what better image than a noose. Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words. I think it speaks volumes because it is shocking...just like KT's words.


Sorry. Couldn't disagree more. If you want to report the news, you are journalist.

If you wish to raise awareness about racism, you are an ACTIVIST.
loulou
Its funny, you ask someone who Kelly Tilghman is (now), they'll probably know. Ask the same person how many people were killed in Iraq today, no idea. Tiger said it was a non-issue so let it go medias of the world, we have bigger problems than this.
TRC79
QUOTE(loulou @ Jan 18 2008, 12:49 AM) *
Its funny, you ask someone who Kelly Tilghman is (now), they'll probably know. Ask the same person how many people were killed in Iraq today, no idea. Tiger said it was a non-issue so let it go medias of the world, we have bigger problems than this.



LouLou, you're on the money with that one.
wwhitehead
QUOTE(stage1350 @ Jan 17 2008, 01:42 PM) *
If they were trying to make a point, the least they could have done was take the photo of the noose in a back alley.

Nice sensationalism.


Exactly. The cover perfectly illustrates the problem, which is as much the media's coverage as is what was said.

WW
KDMullins
QUOTE(Cbey77 @ Jan 17 2008, 03:07 PM) *
The noose is just in poor taste and not needed to have constructive dialog. Kelly's words already gave us that. The noose was not needed at this point.


Maybe for you, but what about the non-golfer? Someone that doesn't play golf is much more likely to pick up that magazine (and read it) with that cover than if the cover shot was KT, or even Tiger.

QUOTE(stage1350 @ Jan 17 2008, 03:08 PM) *
Sorry. Couldn't disagree more. If you want to report the news, you are journalist.

If you wish to raise awareness about racism, you are an ACTIVIST.


Don't ever say that to a journalist. I'm not one, but I would think most strive to provoke thought and discussion at least as much, if not more, than merely report the facts.
ColinMB
Mirriam Webster's online definition of 'lynch'.

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Main Entry:
lynch Listen to the pronunciation of lynch
Pronunciation:
\ˈlinch\
Function:
transitive verb
Etymology:
lynch law
Date:
1836

: to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal sanction
— lynch·er noun


That is the actual definition of the word. What has been twisted and contorted from that moment has become ridiculous. I don't for a second believe GolfWeek's intent is to raise 'racial awareness'. It's to sell a magazine by using imagery to catch your interest.

I just went to Nikegolf's website and saw the big promo video for all the new SUMO product. The video features Tiger Woods and guess who's interviewing him about all the great new Nike product? Kelly Tilghman, and she doesn't have a noose in her hands. Nike is still running the video. Does this mean NIKE must want to 'lynch' Tiger too? How retarded are we going to get with this?

Around the same day of this incident Tim Rosaforte made a comment about his own sagging chest comparing it to Phil Mickelson's chest. I felt this to be a slur against the god given body that Phil has been blessed with. I think Tim should be suspended for a week and apologize to all Phil Fanatics everywhere as well as apologizing to all of us who have moobs. This is a slight against the moob afflicted male population and it must be atoned for.

Free Kelly Tilghman.

Shame on Golfweek for reaching so -low- to grab a few more sales on this issue.
number_7
You know, I wonder what this world is coming too. I am sure, especially since she is friends with Tiger that it wasn't meant to be a hate crime but a compliment.

Additionally, the media has nothing better to do. It happens to January on the tour and they have to fill the pages with something on slow news days.

One more thought, the article I believe says it drew the attention of a well known civil rights activists. Hey let me take it a step further "Lets call a spade a spade...pot calling the kettle black." Both well know sayings. No doubt the person they were referring too is none other than the Reverand Al Sharpton. If the "queen had them she'd be the king," There is another old saying..hope don't get sued by every queen out there. They are afraid to mention his name??

The Reverand Shapton recently caused problems for Imus, warranted or not and is nothing more than an opportunist. Furthermore, does anyone remember "Twana Brawley".

Let me refresh your memory...she was the girl Sharpton was behind with the false allegations of 2 or so cops (ruined their lives and careers) for rape and smearing feces on her. I believe thats a felony charge. Additionally, the Reverend was in the news for not filing income taxes for 2 or so years. Don't know how that one ended up.

In closing, the media ought to start earning their pay checks and really get something interesting to talk about to support and keep there sponsors. Also, this country needs a reality check..
poppyhillsguy
Like Kelly's comment, the cover doesn't bother me either. I guess I'm not sensitive.
drpurpell
Was Kelly Tighlman's comment meant to be racist? Of course not.

Has the US (and UK) for that matter, turned into a PC 1984-like nightmare? Absolutely.

Rosie Jones should have kept her mouth shut too. Maybe she should go speak to Tiger Woods, I believe he knows some good lesbian jokes.
CLEVELAND59
QUOTE(drpurpell @ Jan 17 2008, 05:38 PM) *
Was Kelly Tighlman's comment meant to be racist? Of course not.

Has the US (and UK) for that matter, turned into a PC 1984-like nightmare? Absolutely.

Rosie Jones should have kept her mouth shut too. Maybe she should go speak to Tiger Woods, I believe he knows some good lesbian jokes.


I was with you on your first 2 statements, your third statement is a prime example of the "comment that serves no other purpose but to insult or polarize". They add nothing constructive to the conversation.
italian71
You know this whole board, the media, the magazine, etc.. are pathetic. Everyone has an agenda. When the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT apologized, accepted the apology and said it was not a big deal and to move on, why are we still here? Do we not care about what the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED said? They said move on, so let's move on. MOD's, please close this discussion.
taylormadefan
QUOTE(italian71 @ Jan 17 2008, 06:50 PM) *
You know this whole board, the media, the magazine, etc.. are pathetic. Everyone has an agenda. When the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT apologized, accepted the apology and said it was not a big deal and to move on, why are we still here? Do we not care about what the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED said? They said move on, so let's move on. MOD's, please close this discussion.


Ten guys want it closed, the second we do, ten more will ask why it was closed. So far things have been maturely and tactfully stated. Although nothing new's being said, I don't see any reason to close it.

If it really bothers you that much, why read and post in the thread? As you said, move on. friends.gif
kamtile
QUOTE(italian71 @ Jan 17 2008, 04:50 PM) *
You know this whole board, the media, the magazine, etc.. are pathetic. Everyone has an agenda. When the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT apologized, accepted the apology and said it was not a big deal and to move on, why are we still here? Do we not care about what the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED said? They said move on, so let's move on. MOD's, please close this discussion.

Although harsh ,I agree .After all ,its a rope .More people ,black ,white, red or yellow have been killed with guns or knives or bombs or even rocks and if one of those objects was on the cover it would not even be noticed .This whole thing is absolutely ridiculous and Al Sharpton and rosie are just a couple of big mouths.
Irridium
You guys better stop buying Time, Every Newspaper in the country and a whole bunch of other magazines...

What about when they put a mass murderer's on the front page of the NY Post, seriously this is what media is all about.
kamtile
One more thing ,we have always decorated for halloween . One of the things we hung up beside the ghosts and ghouls is a noose . Do we need to change halloween now?
dcfas
QUOTE(Cbey77 @ Jan 17 2008, 03:07 PM) *
QUOTE(KDMullins @ Jan 17 2008, 03:57 PM) *
QUOTE(bambooluv @ Jan 17 2008, 02:54 PM) *
I cannot agree with you more, however I feel in my own opionion the underlining topic has been blown out of proportion. This cover will do nothing but throw fuel on the fire. The media especially the non-golf reporting ones have taken this in such a horrible direction. It's a mistake, and I understand that,"the mic is always on." Kelly just choose the wrong words for an ACCEPTABLE statement. It is all in the eye of the beholder. Just sad its gotten to this point. My 2 pennies.
Pete


I agree with you, too. good.gif Great minds think alike! Seriously, it has been blown out of proportion. Don't get me wrong, the comment was horrible, but I truly believe her intentions were not. I've said it before and I'll say it again...it's sad more than anything else.



Guys,

I think we are all saying the same thing. The noose does have shock value and I don't think that people are reacting to the noose like its something racial. I think the reaction is coming from the fact that the conversation was getting to a point where people were listening to eachother. And I have had some really good conversations with folks about this. The noose is just in poor taste and not needed to have constructive dialog. Kelly's words already gave us that. The noose was not needed at this point.




I agree. That cover is simply inappropriate and in very poor taste. Who's calling the shots over there, anyway? Seems like obnoxious sensationalism is everywhere, even in golf. This is an important issue, and discussion-- but that cover is truly disappointing.
FlyFish
I don't care for Tilghman for as an announcer, but if they give into Sharpton and fire her over this matter, I am going to cancel all Comcast utilities and complete my move to Verizon FIOS.

This 1984 thoughtcrime BS has to stop.
Huskypride28
This was just not necessary. This topic was just about over until this came out.
mbbrewer
Wow, I am a little amazed that they would use this as their cover page. This is the kind of story/remark that should just die and go away. Why choose to re-live, and make it worse than it was before? Way to go Golfweek!
withdrew
A few quick points:

If I read another post of Webster's definition of "lynch" I'm going to break my laptop in half.
The LITERAL definition is not what's getting Kelly Tilghman in trouble. The literal definition or meaning of "white sheet" is basically something you'd find on a hostpital bed, but what that phrase represents with respect to racism is much greater than the literal term.

Next: Like it or not, this does transcend beyond a simple interaction between Kelly Tilghman and Tiger Woods. Her comments were broadcast on television. There was an audience. If someone calls me a racial slur or other type of insult, in front of a third party, even if I'm not offended, that third party can (and certainly has the right to) take offense.

I have never supported Kelly Tilghman's comments. My main problem (as I've said before) was that The Golf Channel only took action AFTER the likes of Al Sharpton got involved. The buckling and back-pedaling of The Golf Channel is where I find fault. They went into damage-control mode, and threw Kelly Tilghman under the bus. Originally Kelly apologized publicly to the viewers and privately to Tiger Woods and his camp, that was the end of it. Sharpton goes on CNN, 3 hours later, Kelly is suspended. THAT was where I had a problem.

I respect people's right to be upset and offended over this. I don't think she's racist. I don't think she should lose her job. This was not an Imus situation where there was a track-record of daily abuse and disrespect to minorities on a radio program. She made a mistake, a poor choice of words, and that's it.

The noose cover was just in poor taste. Stupid if you ask me.

I said I wasn't going to talk about it anymore, and now I mean it.
CLEVELAND59
QUOTE(italian71 @ Jan 17 2008, 07:50 PM) *
You know this whole board, the media, the magazine, etc.. are pathetic. Everyone has an agenda. When the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE INCIDENT apologized, accepted the apology and said it was not a big deal and to move on, why are we still here? Do we not care about what the people ACTUALLY INVOLVED said? They said move on, so let's move on. MOD's, please close this discussion.


Because, God forbid, we have an intelligent discussion on a highly charged subject (for a change).

I think this thread has allowed for people to express some diverse and and interesting thoughts.

If you don't like it, don't read it. But at least be open minded enough to realize that forcing your views and choices upon others, or attempting to, is the least intelligent way to participate in a discussion.
BallSpinner
I wonder if Rosie Jones had an ulterior motive when she made her comments?

From the same GolfWeek issue, in the "Wired" column on page 5.:

QUOTE
Rosie Jones has commentated on GC for the last year and a half, but she won't be returning after being offered work at only four of the less heralded LPGA tournaments. "Four events wasn't worth my time," Jones said. "I didn't want to be on the 'B' team."
tec333
It's GolfWeek...a magazine with articles and ads about golf!

And Guess what....this week this is what is going on in the sport/industry.

It's not tacky. It is what it is.
bambooluv
Tim Finchem as reported on espn
Link to full espn article....good article on subject

"Clearly, what Kelly said was inappropriate and unfortunate and she obviously regrets her choice of words," he said in a statement. "But we consider Golfweek's imagery of a swinging noose on its cover to be outrageous and irresponsible. It smacks of tabloid journalism. It was a naked attempt to inflame and keep alive an incident that was heading to an appropriate conclusion."

Something I thought, what kelly said was an accident, what Golfweek did was premeditated.
Once again my 2 pennies...I cannot believe it has gotten this far!

Pete
archeraz
Golfweek's homepage is reporting that Dave Seanor, the editor who selected the cover, has been replaced by Jeff Babineau. It also contains an apology from Turnstile Publishing, Golfweek's parent company.

drpurpell
QUOTE(CLEVELAND59 @ Jan 17 2008, 11:09 PM) *
QUOTE(drpurpell @ Jan 17 2008, 05:38 PM) *
Was Kelly Tighlman's comment meant to be racist? Of course not.

Has the US (and UK) for that matter, turned into a PC 1984-like nightmare? Absolutely.

Rosie Jones should have kept her mouth shut too. Maybe she should go speak to Tiger Woods, I believe he knows some good lesbian jokes.


I was with you on your first 2 statements, your third statement is a prime example of the "comment that serves no other purpose but to insult or polarize". They add nothing constructive to the conversation.


My 3rd statement was meant to highlight the fact that most people say things that they regret, even when the intent of the statement was not to offend. Even the almighty Tiger Woods has been guilty of this in the past, hence the lesbian joke reference. Sorry if that was too obscure for you.

Can I use the word "almighty" in reference to TW without offending Christians? What about the word guilty - bit controversial there. You see where I'm going with this? In this PC, precious, oh-so-scared-not-to-offend-anybone society we find ourselves in you can hardly say anything without people being up in arms about it.

Can I say arms? There is a war on after all. I did it again! russian_roulette.gif
stage1350
For those of you that wish to brandish your pens as swords, you're writing the wrong people.

Write to the advertisers in Golfweek and the commercial sponsors on The Golf Channel telling them of your dismay. Inform them that you will not support their company with your dollars if they support the channel/magazine that has offended you.

Your dollars have a much louder voice than your words ever will.
Oaks
According to Sports Illustrated/CNNSI:

BREAKING NEWS: The editor of Golfweek magazine was fired after the magazine put a picture of a noose on the cover in the wake of a broadcaster's "lynch" comment about Tiger Woods, reports Gary Van Sickle.

I commend whomever had the common sense to remove this gentleman from his power as editor of Golfweek. I personally found his actions not only to be utterly offensive, but also inappropriate, along with his comments on how he stood behind his decision to go forward with the cover knowing that that was going to be a public backlash.


Golfweek editor fired over noose cover

By Gary Van Sickle
Senior Writer, Sports Illustrated
Published: January 18, 2008

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ORLANDO, Fla. — One day after PGA Tour executives threatened to pull their advertising because of a racially insensitive cover graphic of a noose, Golfweek magazine has decided to fire its editor and vice president, Dave Seanor.

Golf.com learned of the decision on Friday morning from a source on the staff of the magazine who was not at liberty to speak for attribution. The source also said that Seanor will be replaced by Jeff Babineau, a senior writer for the magazine.

Golfweek's cover story ran with the headline "Caught in a Noose?" and was about the now infamous "lynch" remark made by Golf Channel anchor Kelly Tilghman during the network's broadcast of the Mercedes Championship two weeks ago.

On Thursday, the cover about the controversy became a controversy in itself, with cbssports.com reporting that the PGA Tour was threatening to pull its advertising and the Tour's commissioner, Tim Finchem, sternly criticizing the publication.

"Clearly, what Kelly said was inappropriate and unfortunate, and she obviously regrets her choice of words," Finchem said in a statement. "But we consider Golfweek's imagery of a swinging noose on its cover to be outrageous and irresponsible. It smacks of tabloid journalism. It was a naked attempt to inflame and keep alive an incident that was heading to an appropriate conclusion."

The story began during the Golf Channel's broadcast on Jan. 4 when analyst Nick Faldo joked that the young players of the PGA Tour may have to gang up on Tiger Woods to compete with him. His co-anchor, Kelly Tilghman, agreed and suggested with a laugh that Tiger's young rivals "lynch him in a back alley."

Tilghman later apologized on the air and directly to Woods. Mark Steinberg, Woods's agent at IMG, dismissed the incident, saying that Woods and Tilghman were friends and the comment was not malicious. Still, the network suspended Tilghman for two weeks after the controversy became a story outside the golf world and the Rev. Al Sharpton called for her dismissal.

Tilghman became golf's first female anchor last year when the PGA Tour signed a 15-year deal in which Golf Channel broadcasts the first three events of the year, weekday coverage of all Tour events, and full coverage of the Fall Series and opposite-field events. She played golf at Duke, graduating in 1991, and played professionally in Australia, Europe and Asia from 1992-96.
justyn
That magazine has about as much credibility as the "National Enquirer" with me now!
3puttbert
Editor was fired.
If Rev. Al comes out with a statement about how Golfweek handled the situation, it will put more pressure on Golf Channel to act accordingly and fire KT
withdrew
This whole situation from top to bottom is insane and out of control.

I wish I had a DeLorean.
golfer.61
kudos to the mods.....i think it is a healthy to discuss something good or bad....even thou this has been beaten to death...i will start worriyng when nothing is being said....
BallSpinner
Overreaction #2 on this topic.

Golfweek's own explanation:

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"We were trying to convey the controversial issue with a strong and provocative graphic image. It is now obvious that the overall reaction to our cover deeply offended many people. For that, we are deeply apologetic."


Golfweek was not advocating a lynching, they were highlighting the issue with a picture. Melodramatic perhaps, but not offensive. Magazines do it all the time, including Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News and World Report. I find it particularly ironic considering that the last-page editorial (a full page commentary with the word "Context" in the title in big, bold fort) is about the context of the lynching statement.

GolfWeek should be subject to criticism, complaints, etc, but there is no way someone should have lost their job over this. It's a friggin' picture of a hangman's noose - the very symbol of a lynching. The news story was about the use of the word "lynch". Didn't the cover do exactly what it was supposed to do - get people to read the magazine and talk about the issue? Was anyone actually offended by the image, or were people just annoyed that the story still had legs? I subscribe to GolfWeek, and I've read the articles. They are well-written and balanced.

Can we not even discuss controversial subjects anymore? Because driving the discussions and images of racism underground is exactly the way that idiotic racists are created. Get it out in the open so that people can identify the real problems of racism in our society.

The Senior Editor was a scapegoat, pure and simple. That cover went through numerous approvals before it went to print.

And as for Tim Finchem, I have about as much respect for his comments in this fiasco as I do for Mr. Sharpton's. Both are just protecting their own interests. Of course Finchem is irritated with the cover - it prolongs a controversy (whether real or not) centered around his bread and butter, Tiger Woods. I guarandamntee that he was not actually offended by the cover. He was scared of the impact it might have on the PGA.

Kelly, if you are reading this, I hope to see you on next week's broadcast.
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