With the news of Cameron developing his next inspired by series, and not saying who it is, AND with the news that Cameron will be making a Studio Select with a slant neck... I hypothesize that it will be Adam Scott's style putter as the next Inspired By.

Any thoughts?

Scott was using a Tour Teryllium Ten Newport 2 welded slant neck in raw stainless finish. Sweet putter for sure.

Yeah, and the other day he was seen using a cemeron with a plumbers neck. ?

Yeah, its a midslant. And it has a plumber neck.

I believe you can only have one or the other... right?

I'm no expert but I have seen plumber style necks with a slant. I only assumed thats what I was looking at in the first photo from this Slideshow on Cameron's site:

http://www.scottycameron.com/articles/details.asp?id=172

And the Mizuno Bettinardi C-02 is a plumber neck with a slight slant:

I think the "Inspired by Karsten" is a little overdue????

Thanks for the pic, I never knew that you could have both.
Here's a pic of the mid slant I had in mind:

Thanks for the dialog,
SJD

that's funny... every other putter maker bows to Karsten as well.

While theoretically you might be able to have both plumbers neck and mid-slant on a putter, neither of the examples given are actually such a combination. I have seen the Mizuno in person and it sets up just like a Newport/Anser with no slant (even the pics posted dont show any slant). And in the pic of Adam Scott, I think it is a normal mid-slant, but the shadow makes it a bit confusing. Just my analysis. . .

You must be thinking about a different Mizuno putter. The C-02 is a plumber neck with a slight slant. I didn't realize it was slanted until after I ordered mine and saw it in person. As described by Mizuno:

Features

* Rounded edges on the trailing flange
* Standard length plumber "slant neck" for improved framing of the ball
* 4 degrees of loft, 71 degree lie angle

Here is a better angle to see the slant to the neck(as I said its slight, but its definitely a slant):

I think Mizuno as taken some liberties when describing the features of their putter in order to appeal to both the slant neck and plumber's necks afficionados. In theory, you can NOT have both as they've been designed and developed in the past. One was designed to NOT be the other. Slant necks are straight transitions (or connections). Plumbers necks were designed with a 90* transition angle and the slant neck was designed to complete the connection from the putter head to hosel with the necessary amount of pitch to provide a similar length neck and "offset." If they were increase the "offset," the amount of pitch or slant would have to increase while the converse would also true. Given the standardization of the terms when describing certain putters, the terms have just stuck for every manufacturer, by consumers.

I have both and while variations of each design may be possible, the terms, as coined today, and as we use them, are what they are. Some hybrid type name to describe a newly designed transition from hosel to head would be necessary........."plumbers slant" would be the obvious but still somewhat of an oximoron in my opinion.

I would agreee with Caliqula in that "Inspired by Karsten" is long overdue AND could be stamped on several of SC's designs.

I guess you're not a big Bettinardi guy.

Its already been coined - Short Slant

That's not my point....I'm actually not a "big ANY guy." I have no allegiance to any putter maker, but I am familiar wit BB and many of his putters. My point was that IMO, all things being equal in the putter design (head model, length of neck, overhang etc), a plumbers neck can't be a slant neck too. That's it.

http://www.cameron-museum.com/shop/goods.php?goods_id=990

You must not be very familiar if you've never heard of a bb-1 short slant.

Not just Scotty, but pretty much every other putter blade putter that has come out in the past I dunno, few decades? They are all spin offs of the original Anser, which was lightyears ahead of the pack in terms of design.

hahahahahahahahaha

How about Inspired by....Tiger Woods? I think that one is as overdue if any. Although Nike may hjave something to say about it.

Not only HAVE I heard of it but I had a Black Thunder finished BB-1. I'll try to say it again, s-l-o-w-l-y......a 90* plumbers neck can NOT be a slant neck at the same time, unless the neck itself has another bend in it below the 90* bend. If that were the case, it would have to be very short neck otherwise the overhang or offset would be too much and the putter's face would be way behind the shaft and the hosel. My point was if everything else were equal and I even said the length of the neck itself.

Agreed, slants & plumbers necks are not the same.

Someone needs to tell Bettinardi to stop making the Mizuno C-02. Since its impossible that its in existence. If we all email them together we might get them to change their design.

The neck is obviously not a normal slant neck but its also not a normal plumber neck. Its a combo of the two:



As opposed to their normal plumbers:

The C-03



The C-01(which is a long neck)

Dude, relax.

If you've owned a short slant how can you say it isn't a blend between a regular plumber's neck and a midslant?

Not quite as much offset on the plumber's neck with a little slant to it.

This is kind of neat, I've never argued with someone on the internet over the significance of a neck on a putter.

I don't think you were talking to me. Since I am in agreement with you. Anyone who has looked at a Bettinardi C-02 knows the putter is exactly what Mizuno calls it...

Features

* Rounded edges on the trailing flange
* Standard length plumber "slant neck" for improved framing of the ball
* 4 degrees of loft, 71 degree lie angle

It is different than your typical definition of a slant or a plumber neck. Its proof that you can have both at the same time.

Sorry, that was directed at one of the other guys. I guess I should learn how to use that quote button.

Talk about a thread jack...

lol...
i was surprised that wasn't brought up earlier
why adam scott anyway? ran out of staffers?

These pictures are from the first round of the Nedbank Challenge, 5 days ago (11/29/07). No slant neck in sight, he must have recently changed because the first T10 he was shown using on Scotty's site did have a slant neck.

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Original T10 w/ slant neck ('07 PGA Championship):
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Adam seems to be changing his putters a lot lately. He used the GSS Cameron & Co for awhile, but now he seems to begoing beetween that, and both versions of the TE 10.