stevieheong
Nov 27 2007, 10:13 PM
If you could draw a line between 2 distinct characteristics of golfers, it has to be who allows emotions to be seen, and those who play in a comatose state. Who would be in those categories?
EMO Golfers
1. Rory Sabattini (You gotta admit, he's really good for the game when he opens his mouth)
2. Tiger Woods (hear him drop the F-bomb a few times)
3. Rocco Mediate
4. Morgan Pressel (who doesn't love this girl?!)
5. Woody Austin aka Aquaman
Some others like Fred Funk, Jerry Kelly, John Daly, Ricky Barnes, Sergio Garcia?
Comatose Golfers
1. Retief Goosen
2. Ernie Els
3. David Toms
4. David Duval
5. Chad Campbell?
Which is better for the game? Although the emo golfers are more fun to watch, I must admit, I am pretty much in awe of Retief when he hits a crap shot at a critical moment and still looks as if he's strolling in the park. He's like a robot, that guy.
Ace In The Hole
Nov 27 2007, 10:36 PM
To play with non-emotional, to watch emotional for SURE.
gboldman23
Nov 27 2007, 11:08 PM
QUOTE(Ace In The Hole @ Nov 27 2007, 09:36 PM)

To play with non-emotional, to watch emotional for SURE.
agreed.
Ace In The Hole
Nov 28 2007, 12:05 AM
Although I must add sometimes playing against an emotional player is pretty fun when in a match and you can get in his kitchen, I'm not that type of player when it comes to match play, but then sometimes it's just too easy. LOL.
willamette
Nov 29 2007, 01:52 PM
Sorry, I just don't see Tiger as being a very emotional golfer anymore....he wins the PGA and barely gets excited. He wins the FedEx and barely smiles. Yes, yes, so he looks disappointed when he misses a putt...bit whop. I mean come on, the guy's used to winning, but he doesn't have to look like an a** when you know 99% of other pros would be crying, whooping, etc for winning the big tournaments that he does. Lately watching him is just like watching a robot...I long for the old days - 1997-2001 when he was the kid who really got excited and made YOU excited to watch.
The guy's done a ton for the game, for minorities, for charities, and the like, and he's got real class, so I'm certainly not bashing him. Just one things that annoys me.
littlepingman
Nov 29 2007, 02:06 PM
Ernie Els isn't totally free of showing a little emotion on the course...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqgW3VE90Q
pbcgolfer
Nov 29 2007, 04:16 PM
He definitely should have gotten fined/ suspended for a while for that, one of the many rulings I don't understand on the PGA. And how does his caddie take that? I mean I know you're suppose to be there for your player throught thick and thin, but you got to have some sort of self-respect. I would have definitely walked off the course or threw his driver in the lake and let him carry his own bag. lol Then he does it multiple times throughtout the round. How did he get away with that seriously?
stevieheong
Nov 30 2007, 02:53 AM
Holy cow! I never watched that before (we don't get a whole lot of coverage here). If I see Retief doing that (tomahawk his caddie), I'll buy a lottery for sure. The only time I saw the goose lose it was during President's cup I think where he slammed his iron into the ground after a bad miss. But Ernie...dang!!
floyd
Nov 30 2007, 05:57 AM
QUOTE(littlepingman @ Nov 29 2007, 02:06 PM)

Ernie Els isn't totally free of showing a little emotion on the course...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqgW3VE90QI remember that, he really could have hurt someone with the driver throw!
Golfchicago
Nov 30 2007, 07:15 AM
Well you gotta love personality. Back in the day I loved watching Lanny Wadkins and Bob Rosburg. Both were entertaining with the raw use of their emotions. I remember watching Rossie lip out a 90 foot putt and the intense anger to follow was absolutely hilarious. You have to love watching people who express themselves openly. If I had to watch Retief and only Retief 24/7, I'd be playing a different sport. Boooooring. I understand that is him and that is the way he does it, but I could easily fall asleep watching him.
Swingtheclub
Nov 30 2007, 07:39 AM
I think it shows a lot about Els true inner personality.
He not only throws the club but he does not even apologize or ask if his caddy is alright.
He later knocks the bag down knowing his caddy will pick it up.
Guess what people Ernie Els is a jerk
Konrad
Dec 1 2007, 12:15 PM
Oh, I don't really think that is fair. Anyone can have a terrible day. I'm sure that anyone here has said something that was cruel and they have regretted. Ernie was just having that- a terrible day.
Swingtheclub
Dec 1 2007, 12:54 PM
/sorry Konrad can not buy that so if you work for me? and I am having a bad day its ok if I throw something at you?
iskysoma01
Dec 1 2007, 01:54 PM
By the way that caddy that Ernie almost hit is not the same caddy that he has now.
Ace In The Hole
Dec 1 2007, 02:05 PM
I'll tell you this much allot of caddies are good friends of the guys they loop for or they are stickly there for the money, and if you walk out on your guy, thrown club or not, you are goint o have a hard time looping for another PGA pro, and if there is no bag there is no paycheck, it's not the easiest life out there if you not a mainstay on the bag.
DaveyH
Dec 1 2007, 05:30 PM
as long as they dont start throwing clubs im not bothered!
PhilSA
Dec 1 2007, 09:31 PM
That was still with Ricky, Ernie's old caddy. The incident happened at Sun City exactly a year ago. Ernie was under pressure to play well and the relationship between Ricky and himself was already went sour by then. BTW Ernie and Sergio were fined for clubtossing but a silly amount of less than a USD 1 000.
He subsequently changed caddies to win the SA Open the following week.
Even though it was surprising to see Ernie doing that it also demonstrated how desperate Ernie is to win.
golf9596
Dec 1 2007, 10:25 PM
Having been an emotional player most of my life, I say "you are what I thought I was". Spent the last 4 seasons trying to be a better person on the course, not that I was that bad, a few four letter words directed at myself or a buried wedge once in a while, I always was respectful of my playing partners and the course. I thought being as emotional as I am was a deterent to my game. I would sometimes fold under presure or miss a drive right of right(you know it was the "choke" factor), but I discovered I stop scoring and winning on a regular bases. I thought winning a skin or two was ok and losing the jackpot was due to my poor scoring. I then discovered that w/no or little emotion I was not allowing me to be me. Just play golf, be respectful and let it hang out. Oh, my scores got a lot better too!
retief is cool. he's emotionless good or bad. i don't like people who throw tantrums on the course.
willamette
Dec 2 2007, 04:25 PM
QUOTE(golf9596 @ Dec 1 2007, 10:25 PM)

Having been an emotional player most of my life, I say "you are what I thought I was". Spent the last 4 seasons trying to be a better person on the course, not that I was that bad, a few four letter words directed at myself or a buried wedge once in a while, I always was respectful of my playing partners and the course. I thought being as emotional as I am was a deterent to my game. I would sometimes fold under presure or miss a drive right of right(you know it was the "choke" factor), but I discovered I stop scoring and winning on a regular bases. I thought winning a skin or two was ok and losing the jackpot was due to my poor scoring. I then discovered that w/no or little emotion I was not allowing me to be me. Just play golf, be respectful and let it hang out. Oh, my scores got a lot better too!

Yep, have to agree. I've had a couple coaches in various sports through the years try to "reign me in" and all I can say is that it seriously affected my performance. While not true for all or even many athletes, for me when I just "relaxed" and didn't take things too hard or get to excited it basically translated into not caring as much or trying as hard. Not to say that temper tantrums are acceptable, but rather that trying to turn an intense player into a stoic player can be a terrible thing. Sort of what Nick Faldo was saying about he European guys not being as intense with one another and that affecting their ability to focus and compete, etc.
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