im watching eldrick on th 10th at the bmw with my 9 yr old grand son and tiger hits the ball and then says GD IT and my grandson goes what does that mean. class act eldrick

They going to learn it some time... Wouldn't you rather have Tiger teach it to him than a kid off the street?

Good luck finding a role model if your bar is that they never say something like that. I'm sure you or your children have never said anything like that right? Maybe you should have yourself or your own family be your grandsons role model instead of relying on a stranger.

From an ESPN interview with Earl Woods:

We've covered drugs and alcohol. How about swearing? In the Golf Digest Interview in May, Tiger's former teammate at Stanford, Casey Martin, said that the one thing that kept Tiger from being truly great was profanity. Yesterday [at the Western Open] he broke his wedge and cursed a couple of times. Do you wish he would tone it down a bit?

Tiger's not perfect. I'm not perfect. You can't have it both ways with Tiger. You can't have charismatic abilities to execute the marvelous shots and then chastise him when that same passion causes him to overload when he hits a bad shot. Specifically about swearing, it's a ... I won't say a cultural thing; it's a family thing. My father could swear for 30 minutes and never repeat himself. He was that good. And I inherited it. It took some time before I could bring it under control.

I am also not too fond of Tiger's swearing but I don't know what it's like to be him. I am not that good of a golfer, nor do I have so much money and history riding on every shot so if I blow it, no big deal. I do agree though that it might be a family thing. Growing up, if I so much as thought about swearing, my mother was ready to smack me before I got the words out. My wife on the other hand, swore freely around her parents and it totally caught me off guard. It was no big deal to them but for me it was a cardinal sin. Luckily, my wife no longer curses like a sailor.

omg m8, get over yourself, God Damn It isnt really swearing tbh m8, u best be glad he dint say anything that is clast as swearing like F**k or something worse, but GD IT is absolutly pathetic and making a thread about it and also BEING BOTHERED.. cmon man get real this world isnt perfect and you tell me that my 8 year old brother doesnt no more swear words than probably you do. cmon this is pathetic some1 please lock this post. haha.

I wonder why Tiger chooses to use the lord's name in vain all the time. I thought that Tiger was a Buddhist. :P

I remember watching a nationwide tour event several years ago on the Golf Channel when they were just starting the "miked for play" thing ,some unknown player was miked up and had a 3 wood into a par 5 ,he tops it and as its dribbling down the fairway ,he yells "run ,you little cu=t" the announcer covered as best he could by saying "we havent worked all the bugs out of our miked for play system yet" It was hilarious.

What possible advantage is there to having your grandson (or any small child) learn what that means from Tiger instead of someone on the street?

For godness sake don't let him watch an LPGA event when Chistina Kim or Christy Kerr have played a poor shot. He'll get an entirely new vocabulary. And FWIW I have 6 grand kids from 21 years to 1 week old.

Hey.. I resemble that remark… In the past after a bad shot or missing a straight 3 footer for a $5.00 skin I’ve tried, deep breathing, or trying to find my golf “chi” but it never worked. A good GD, under my breath is a much better stress reliever. It is through my swearing that I can relate with the great TW.

take your grandson outside and play frisbee if you do not want to hear ANYTHING that might possibly offend you. Or better yet, turn off the television and read to your grandson which would be a more positive influence on his life in the long run.

I used to do this as well but it's a bad habit. When you are playing with strangers, it's also in bad taste.

All that you have to do is just train yourself to say "darn it" or "golly" (like Tom Kite) instead.

Can you not get/take a joke?

Watch from home next time, but have your Viagra/Ciallis explanation ready.

I don't agree with it, but I wont look down on him for it. Him saying it is no different than any of us saying the same exact thing which I am pretty sure that all of us have said a curse word or two. If you say you haven't then well you are a better person than I. I try not to say anything, but if someone had a camera on me during my job they would probably hear one every now and again.

While it isn't great that he does it on camera just sit back and think about if a camera was on you while you worked. Would you do the same thing? Eventually you would.

whoa, I never got the memo that said that counted as swearing.

If you watch the guys closely after a bad shot, alot of times you can read their lips. As a former US Navy member, I developed quite a 4-letter vocabulary and I got good at reading lips. A vast majority of those guys are NOT saying "gee will'a'kers"! With all the mic's and cameras around these events you'd think there'd be more "caught on camera" moments. More likely the broadcasters have gotten really good at turning off the mic's.

Last year I was at the Administaff Classic in Houston. We followed Trevino, Haas, and Palmer around. Lee Trevino took the time to talk to the gallery while waiting around on the tee box. That guy can use some 4-letter words!

There has been alot of excuses for what amounts to bad behavior. Inexcusable no matter who or where. A man should hold himself to a higher standard...J

I think TW will start to tone it down especially when his daughter gets older and he realizes that he has to be a role model for her.

I think TW will start to tone it down especially when his daughter gets older and he realizes that he has to be a role model for her.

littlepingman........did she really miss that butt?

Just because your 8 year old brother knows them doesn't mean he should or that you should condone it. And how can you possibly say GD isn't really swearing?



There is simply no such thing as a "Good GD".



Absolutely.

In Tiger's position as a role model, he should know better. He can win all the tournaments he likes, make all the money he likes, and his foundation can do whatever it wants. If he can't learn to control his mouth, he'll never be revered as a person the way Byron Nelson, Ben Crenshaw, or Payne Stewart are (just 3 examples that come to mind).

I hope Iron Mike is right.

who gives a s***.

Remember, the only reason Tiger is seen as a role model is because people like you and the media have elevated him to that status. He wants to be a golfer, I see him as a golfer, and as a golfer and a human, I know what it is like to have flaws. If its that big of a problem to you, you and Johnny miller need to find something else to watch.

Well, this has just confirmed that the world has become too politically correct. Honestly, you're crucifying Tiger Woods for saying "god damn it"? That's insanity.

I don't have any problem with Tiger's language.

I would like to see him throw more clubs.

umm he didnt say buddah damn

I, too, would like to see him throw more clubs. Let's see a whirlybird, no more of this attack on the turf!

No offense to the fore mentioned golfers, but they lived in a different time. Not to mention that nelson was never "miked for play"

Payne Stewart would've turned 50 this year, probably would've played both tours, and played against Tiger.

Ben Crenshaw turned 55 this year, plays the Senior Tour and did play some against Tiger.

These 2 gentleman did not live in a different time than Tiger. They simply are/were different caliber men than Tiger.

Byron Nelson did live in a different time, but are you saying that as time passes our moral standards should loosen? Is that what you want for your children? If GD is currently acceptable for an 8 year old, what will be acceptable for 8 year olds in 20 years?

Sure, we all make mistakes and let something slip that shouldn't. It just seems to me that we should all try to not let it happen, and that we shouldn't defend it when it does.

Might seem old fashioned or too PC for some of you, but to me it's simply how I was raised and how my children are being raised.

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a morals thread. It just bothers me how many people really don't care what children today hear, know, or think.

And no, I didn't make Tiger a role model. He did that through his talent and his foundation. In many ways he is a positive role model and I applaud him for that. It'd just be nice if he could be one in his language, also.

And tiger is 30. yes those are different times. just as my parents grew up in different time than i did. I am not condoning his behavior but he without sin should cast the first stone. Tigers just wants to play great golf. Its you and I that put him on TV to watch!!

The phase he spoke is said commonly on PG rated movies and on network television quite often.

Correct. People have been swearing for as long as dirt has been on the earth. 20 years ago you barely saw a TV show with any sort of sexual reference. Now a days people are bee boppin each other on network tv. Try joining a ''media newcaster'' forum and voice your complaints there. Im sure if tiger was just some guy on tour you wouldnt care

I think it's regrettable that people fail to monitor themselves sufficiently and remain ignorent of proper etiquette, but the world is changing so quickly... I'm sure Miss Manners would be aghast at the following excerpt from Teach Your Kids to Swear --

To begin, stop censoring yourself. Let the cuss words fly wherever and whenever you please. Kids will pick up on this and start swearing on their own. Watch their little shoulders drop and the tension leave their bodies with each resounding expletive. It's not only cute, its therapeutic!

Of course, Grandma won't like it, but $#*%@ her! She could use a little cuss therapy herself.

Hmmm. That is what is sad about our culture and society. We have been desensitized so much that we don't really notice when we see or hear these things anymore. I have noticed for a few years that Tiger uses language like that while on TV. I have noticed it from other players as well. I respect Tiger and his abilities however I don't agree with anyone on TV or in public who uses profanity. If there are people that may possible be offended around you, keep in inside.

But to the original poster in this thread, teach your grandson that in your opinion you don't speak like that and tell him why.

Nice try, but the excerpt seems to be taken from a humor site that makes fun about the challenges of parenting, and not meant as actual reference material. But for those who actually do consider it as actual material, then I suggest there are greater issues at hand.

I was at Bible camp, learning how to be more judgemental. - Maude Flanders

First if you want a role model for your kids , become one.

What makes you guys so sure that the players mentioned did not curse.

Maybe they just did not have a mic stuck in their face.

I personally have heard Arnie curse.

One last thing do you really think Tiger cares

I love it when people get on their moral high horse about sports and athletes. It's pathetic.

You want to hear language? Go stand on the sidelines of a team event.

The only difference is that the tour chooses to let the mics close to Tiger.

Investment bankers say the same things and worse when the deal doesn't go through so don't give me any garbage about Tiger being a poor role model.

What about a role model or community leader who openly talks about American values and the American family when the cameras are rolling, then outside of the lime light taps your foot in a public bathroom stall?

If the only thing you can find flawed on Tiger is his mouth, I guess he must be doing something right....

God dammit. What is the god damn issue? "God Damn" is just a phrase used to express displeasure. I don't think people are actually using the Lord's name in vain when they say "God Dammit" when they are peeved. So god dammit, leave Tiger alone and worry about your own god damn language. Maybe he was praying..."God Dammit! Please damn that shot to hell and don't ever let it bestow it's evilness upon my golf ball ever again...That shot is the work of Lucipher, and it belongs in the depths of hell, so please God, Damn it to the underworld!!!"

I don't see this thread living much longer....

Scenario for those who feel it's no big deal:

You get a call from your child's school that he is being disciplined. You meet with the principal and your child and find out that when asked where his homework was, he told the teacher "I didn't do my GD homework." He then looks at you and says "But, I heard Tiger say it on TV and you say it at home...why can't I say it?"

How are you going to respond?

btw, Don I agree with what you're saying.

umm, paxil?

I do agree that GD is not really used as taking the lords name in vain anymore- it's just an expression of displeasure.

As far as juding Tiger, I agree with most of this thread: Get off your horse. At least you got to explain to your child why he said what he said and illustrate that you don't agree with his choice. When your child learns what a "*******" is on the back of the schoolbus, you won't have that luxury.

Well if you're a good parent little Jimmy will know that if he says the bad words then he has to pay the price.

That's like saying my child shot somebody cause he saw it on Cops.

A television set is not a parenting tool.

HA HA!!! You think a 9 year old doesn't know a whole stream of curses? Are you Amish or something? I can remember the conversations that we used to have when grown-up weren't around when I was that age - I'm shocked at the kind of language that we used. And yes, we were smart enough ask questions like "what's that mean?" when we heard somebody else use one of those phrases while we were with our parents.

Maybe they should have a 10 second delay and pre recorded phrases so when Tiger says $*@#! it actually comes out as, "Stevie, I hit that 9 iron a whisker thin".