Cleveland Golf Tour Issue RAW CG-15 Wedges, In hand Pics Rating Options

[Sakman]

As promised, here's a few in hand pics and information on the upcoming CG-15 wedge from Cleveland Golf. They're claiming it's the best wedge ever made by Cleveland and the technology surpasses their competitors by a HUGE margin. I cannot wait to take them out this weekend and put them to the test against the RAW CG-14's. (Click here)

Note: This is a RAW version which will not be available OTR, but rather off the tour van.

I apologize for the pics. They were taken from my camera phone and will have some better one's soon.

Enjoy!

LASER MILLED FACE:

Using the precision accuracy of a laser, 4 perfectly calibrated texture lines are milled between each groove exactly to the conforming roughness limit. This breakthrough surface roughness application optimizes ball to face friction and maximizes spin under the rules of golf.

That along with ZIP GROOVES optimizes spin to the maximum.

The CG 15 will come with all bounce options, and more lofts that we have ever offered, including 62* and 64* lofts.

The finish offerings will be:

• Black Pearl
• Oil Quench
• Satin Chrome
• DSG-Oil Quench

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[bjackson]

does yours not say laser milled on either side of the grooves can't tell from the pic.

Correction

The pics listed above are of the RAW version which will not be available to retail. These do not have the 'Laser Milled' txt on the side of the grooves.

The other CG-15 wedge I have (OTR) does have the txt on the side of the grooves.

Sorry about the confusion, I forgot which pics I uploaded.

Ryan

[Konklifer]

Really looking forward to trying a black pearl 58*.

[totalhacker]

Are the retail models going to have stainless steel heads or cabon steel heads? Also, do the retail models have the non-conforming agressive grooves? Thx for the pics and info.

[Pweb44]

Cleveland have always producted great wedges, sure these will be no different, looking forward to hearing more about the on course testing.

[bjackson]

does yours not say laser milled on either side of the grooves can't tell from the pic.

Correction

The pics listed above are of the RAW version which will not be available to retail. These do not have the 'Laser Milled' txt on the side of the grooves.

The other CG-15 wedge I have (OTR) does have the txt on the side of the grooves.

Sorry about the confusion, I forgot which pics I uploaded.

Ryan

Come on Cleveland, that's no fair having tour issue stuff be clean, but retail be all over the place. I would be interested, but I guess CG15 will be a no-go for me.

[Sakman]

Are the retail models going to have stainless steel heads or cabon steel heads? Also, do the retail models have the non-conforming agressive grooves? Thx for the pics and info.

The CG-15's will be a soft steel and not carbon. The Zip Grooves will be conforming as well.

[J-J]

Very nice!!!!
I'll be shooting you an email shortly...LOL

[hef63303]

does yours not say laser milled on either side of the grooves can't tell from the pic.

Correction

The pics listed above are of the RAW version which will not be available to retail. These do not have the 'Laser Milled' txt on the side of the grooves.

The other CG-15 wedge I have (OTR) does have the txt on the side of the grooves.

Sorry about the confusion, I forgot which pics I uploaded.

Ryan

Come on Cleveland, that's no fair having tour issue stuff be clean, but retail be all over the place. I would be interested, but I guess CG15 will be a no-go for me.

Your loss.

[Poulterguiest]

WOW! Another great wedge by Cleveland! Too bad it won't be retail...

[easyyy]

The latest post on the CG15 wedge is not completely accurate. The CG15 will be sold with a non-conforming groove. The reason the wedge is coming out now is so it can be sold with the more aggressive groove. The pic he has may indeed be tour RTG but it is with a non-conforming groove. FYI the conforming groove wedges will have a "Tour Zip Grooves" stamp where this one has the original "zip grooves" stamp.

[Sakman]

The latest post on the CG15 wedge is not completely accurate. The CG15 will be sold with a non-conforming groove. The reason the wedge is coming out now is so it can be sold with the more aggressive groove. The pic he has may indeed be tour RTG but it is with a non-conforming groove. FYI the conforming groove wedges will have a "Tour Zip Grooves" stamp where this one has the original "zip grooves" stamp.

I knew there was a reason you owned this site! Good looking out and thanks for the updated info.

[ToysRUs]

Are the retail models going to have stainless steel heads or cabon steel heads? Also, do the retail models have the non-conforming agressive grooves? Thx for the pics and info.

The CG-15's will be a soft steel and not carbon. The Zip Grooves will be conforming as well.

Sak,
Next time your near the van can you get me a 50*, 55* and a 60* CG15 and have them put an M grind on them all?
Pleeeease......
p.s. I don't care which finish is on them.

[Sakman]

Are the retail models going to have stainless steel heads or cabon steel heads? Also, do the retail models have the non-conforming agressive grooves? Thx for the pics and info.

The CG-15's will be a soft steel and not carbon. The Zip Grooves will be conforming as well.

Sak,
Next time your near the van can you get me a 50*, 55* and a 60* CG15 and have them put an M grind on them all?
Pleeeease......
p.s. I don't care which finish is on them.

Noted!

[ToysRUs]

Are the retail models going to have stainless steel heads or cabon steel heads? Also, do the retail models have the non-conforming agressive grooves? Thx for the pics and info.

The CG-15's will be a soft steel and not carbon. The Zip Grooves will be conforming as well.

Sak,
Next time your near the van can you get me a 50*, 55* and a 60* CG15 and have them put an M grind on them all?
Pleeeease......
p.s. I don't care which finish is on them.

Noted!

LOL
I'm holding my breath!!!!!!!!

[BlkNGld]

These seem to be the CG12 follow on.

But since the CG14s seem to be the ones getting the most tour love, why wouldn't someone look to that follow on (CG16?)

[jorruss]

The new 2010 Cleveland CG15 line of wedges from left to right: Oil Quenched Finish, Black Pearl, Chrome. I posted a full review on my website. Enjoy!




This post has been edited by jorruss: Nov 4 2009, 07:29 PM

[markheardjr]

does yours not say laser milled on either side of the grooves can't tell from the pic.

Correction

The pics listed above are of the RAW version which will not be available to retail. These do not have the 'Laser Milled' txt on the side of the grooves.

The other CG-15 wedge I have (OTR) does have the txt on the side of the grooves.

Sorry about the confusion, I forgot which pics I uploaded.

Ryan

Come on Cleveland, that's no fair having tour issue stuff be clean, but retail be all over the place. I would be interested, but I guess CG15 will be a no-go for me.

When you stand over the wedge you cannot read the script, it is too small. The silver/satin/chrome whatever models you can't even tell. The darker ones you can see only a very small white-ish line that defines the hitting area. Honestly I think it's a non-issue. Perhaps you just want to rant about something? Don't knock it till you rock it! I tested the raw CG15's with the "Tour Zip Grooves" for cleveland 2 weeks ago. They feel great. Hit 6 different 52's. Had to hit them off a mat but the spin rates were still up there with the regular zip groove wedges I have tried for them in the past. The laser milled grooves in the face are TINY. I think they will add a little spin on clean manicured fairways, but little from the rough. They don't create deep mill marks like you'd find on spin milled, Srixon WG-706, or Solus wedges for example.

[robbie91]

i saw them today in an oil can type finish -- very nice looking wedges

[golfNashTN]

CODE

When you stand over the wedge you cannot read the script, it is too small. The silver/satin/chrome whatever models you can't even tell. The darker ones you can see only a very small white-ish line that defines the hitting area. Honestly I think it's a non-issue. Perhaps you just want to rant about something? Don't knock it till you rock it! I tested the raw CG15's with the "Tour Zip Grooves" for cleveland 2 weeks ago. They feel great. Hit 6 different 52's. Had to hit them off a mat but the spin rates were still up there with the regular zip groove wedges I have tried for them in the past. The laser milled grooves in the face are TINY. I think they will add a little spin on clean manicured fairways, but little from the rough. They don't create deep mill marks like you'd find on spin milled, Srixon WG-706, or Solus wedges for example.

So are you saying that the pic in your post above is the "Tour edition" that is raw? Or not? Cause the pic you posted is NOT a tour edition CG15 wedge. That is the CG15 Oil Quench 56* which will be avail to the public in a week or so. Do you have the "Raw" wedge, cause Id love to see it.
Cleveland has always made the best wedge IMO.

This post has been edited by golfNashTN: Nov 6 2009, 06:30 PM

[sleepy]

Are the retail models are going to be cast carbon steel? Raw rusty finish on the oil quench and black pearl when wet? Cleveland golf didn't have the specs on the head materal but TGW has it as 8620 carbon steel.

Thx for the comparison pics, the writing is not even visable on the white chrome and it looks like the writing will be even less visable if you "coke" and remove the finish on the oil and black versions.

I'm thinking about getting a set of these...how is the DSG grind on full shots? looks like alot of fat shots with that thin sole with no bounce. It looks nice for around the greens though.

[14nikeclubs]

will these oil wedges rust out like my older DSG wedges?

[golfNashTN]

CODE

will these oil wedges rust out like my older DSG wedges?

No sir they will not rust. The oil quench finish will just wear off like the black pearl finish does.

[dansrixon]

Are the retail models are going to be cast carbon steel? Raw rusty finish on the oil quench and black pearl when wet? Cleveland golf didn't have the specs on the head materal but TGW has it as 8620 carbon steel.

Thx for the comparison pics, the writing is not even visable on the white chrome and it looks like the writing will be even less visable if you "coke" and remove the finish on the oil and black versions.

I'm thinking about getting a set of these...how is the DSG grind on full shots? looks like alot of fat shots with that thin sole with no bounce. It looks nice for around the greens though.

TGW is incorrect it is a new steel called C229. C229 is basically a mix of the properties of 431 and 8621. It is softer than the steel used in the CG12 and CG14 but will not rust on any finish.

Compared to the 14 and 12
-it should feel softer
-bend easier
-will have the same feel on all 3 finishes
-will be more durable
-has higher vibration dampening properties

[dansrixon]

Had to hit them off a mat but the spin rates were still up there with the regular zip groove wedges I have tried for them in the past. The laser milled grooves in the face are TINY. I think they will add a little spin on clean manicured fairways, but little from the rough. They don't create deep mill marks like you'd find on spin milled, Srixon WG-706, or Solus wedges for example.

markheardjr, you posted this in another post on the CG15 which is false and here it is again. So lets clear this up again.

The laser milled face has twice the depth of the vokey spin milled, and is the max of the USGA limit of face roughness, so they ARE deeper mill marks than you will see anywhere else.

As for the spin compared to previous Zip Groove wedges, expect about 1400 more RPMs than the CG14 (which have the same exact zip groove...aka the largest groove on the market). Also remember the purpose of a groove is to clear away debris from getting in the way of the golf ball contacting the face. Spin is generated from friction caused by the golf ball making contact with the face.

[Banker]

Mulling around the pro shop yesterday before the round & the pro brought the new CG 15 black pearl 54* wedge that the rep had sent him. I was drooling over how good it looked & the pro said, I don't like the way it looks, too rounded, if you want it, it's yours......I about fell over...

My old wedge was a 52* Cally X-Forged that I had bent to 54* & my max with that club was just under 100 yards. Got to hit the CG on the 2nd hole, had 78 to the pin & took almost a full swing, because that's what I would have needed with the old wedge. This one carried almost to the center of the green, about 90 yards & then stopped in it's pitch mark. It really feels solid, best wedge that I've hit. Took a full swing on #6 from the 100 yard plate & carried it 5 feet past and it pulled back to the pin. The best part is that it didn't even put a scuff mark on the Pro-V X. I couldn't believe it. The Cally wedges always left nasty marks, but not this baby.

This is a very good wedge, the laser mill text can not be seen at address. I didn't find the grooves too agressive, but they will hold the green. I think the old Cally 60* MD may be seeing some closet time as I think I'm going to need the 60* to match. This is one awesome club. I would easily give it 5 stars.