Tiger = Cheap Options

[creedar]

Common Tiges.

http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2009/02/report-tiger-wo.html


Also from New York Post:

Waitstaff of the world, be warned: When Tiger Woods walks into your eatery, don't expect a gratuity after the meal is over. While he may have a golden grip on his golf clubs, he has a pretty firm grasp on his wallet, too. "Whenever Tiger was in Las Vegas, there was a woman who would hang out with his group, sort of as a local guide," says our source. "They would have a great time but Tiger never tips. Ever. She had to stop going out with him because it would cost her three or four hundred bucks every time they went out, since she had to keep tipping for him. Even though he paid the bill, people knew her, so [to not leave a gratuity] would reflect badly on her." Here's a tip for Tiger: Even 10 percent is better than nothing! —Roger Singer

This post has been edited by creedar: Feb 3 2009, 12:50 PM

[callawayfan]

haha that's funny but i kind of agree because why should he go around giving large tips, it's his money and he earned it (even though it does make him look pretty mean)

[TMfan54]

who cares honestly? he's a golfer and how he pays bills really doesn't matter. also what i found interested is that it said he was no 23 behind britney spears. i distinctly remember hearing that britney tips whatever the bill is a few years ago. and if he says he doesnt carry cash then the man doesnt carry cash. i used to deliver pizza and i will tell you A LOT of people dont tip. so please dont yell at me and say if i were a person who worked off tips id understand. i completely understand what this means. i live in one of the top 5 richest town in nj and they tip the least, if at all.

[Bob Cat]

I'm not a big Tiger fan but this is slanderous nonsense.

I simply don't believe this horse hockey!

Boo!

[Marrrk]

I'm not a big Tiger fan but this is slanderous nonsense.

I simply don't believe this horse hockey!

Boo!

Agreed. Everyone in this room now dumber for having read it.

[golfingnut300]

Barkley has stated that same thing several times. When Tiger, Charles and Jordon would go out, Tiger was the worst tipper. He also never picks up the tab.

[FlyFish]

Tiger has been known for this for years. Remember that he grew up in a modest military household. Some habits are hard to break.

On the flip side, you also have to look at the tens of millions of dollars that he has spent on his science school and the other charity work that he has done. Those disadvantaged kids deserve the dollars more than the doorman.

This post has been edited by FlyFish: Feb 3 2009, 01:04 PM

[JA5ON]

Its a know fact around Las Vegas, and its why people do not get enthusiastic when Tiger or Jordan rolls into town

True story, Tiger went out with Hank Haney and Elin to Shadow creek, he proceded to fire a 61 course record and then stiff the caddie

[Mward2002]

Was the caddy Elin?

Sorry, had to..

[TMfan54]

Its a know fact around Las Vegas, and its why people do not get enthusiastic when Tiger or Jordan rolls into town

True story, Tiger went out with Hank Haney and Elin to Shadow creek, he proceded to fire a 61 course record and then stiff the caddie

lol. he definately does not stiif his own caddie. gives him a couple ford gts, and allows him to bring in an absurd amount of money each year.

[azgolfer2]

Funny thread. around here, MJ is known as the tightest man with a tip on the face of the earth. Never, Never picks up a check or a tip I am told by those who have spent a lot of time in his company. Must come with being tall and rich.

[hack]

While I don't think he should be required to provide a huge tip because he is wealthy, I think he should tip in accordance with standard courtesy if the service was adequate (i.e. 15%). Not doing so is disrespectful and would be the equivalent of a fan at a tournament being excessively rowdy while he was swinging.

[Baxpin]

True about Jordan. When I was working in golf, he came to our course and played 36 each day for a week. Never tipped our cart/bag staff a dollar. Kind funny actually.

I can understand though, because guys like him have people coming out of the woodwork with a hand out expecting something.

[callawayfan]

Tiger has been known for this for years. Remember that he grew up in a modest military household. Some habits are hard to break.

On the flip side, you also have to look at the tens of millions of dollars that he has spent on his science school and the other charity work that he has done. Those disadvantaged kids deserve the dollars more than the doorman.

yea i totally agree with everything you've said

[Big A HG]

When the 2004 PGA Championship was at Whistling Straits, Tiger Woods tipped $50 at a local pizza joint...about double what the tab was. I had a friend working there at the time.

[ghromas]

didn't tiger give the US gov't a loan? ha! who cares if he doesn't tip some cash to some restaurant host? would you?

he donates so much to charity and good causes, leave him alone. he's THE TIGGER!!!

[Lefty Cat]

Dudes almost a BILLIONaire. He can afford to throw in a 50 every once in awhile. Saying that, I wouldnt carry cash if I was him either. I would have my people carry my money around, that sounds funny to say.

[floycota]

It's been confirmed elsewhere also:

http://www.stainedapron.com/celebs.htm

If you can call this confirmation.

[sigmamason]

Funny that I read this, yet there are people on here that would not give the pizza delivery guy a tip...

[packerfan1]

I think that if the service is good, Tiger should tip the standard 15-20%, whether he pays by cash or card, he can do it either way. Many of these waitstaff make below minimum wage and count on tips to make a living, and it is just good decorum to tip if the service is good.

Elsewise, he should not be bound to 'shell out an extra 50' or 'tip the same amount as the bill' just because he is wealthy. An honest tip for the service would be appreciated in most circumstances, and there will always be naysayers who believe a wealthy individual will never tip enough.

[stage1350]

Having worked for tips, I appreciate a George as much as the next person. But nobody is obligated to tip for anything. The people that think that they "deserve" a tip are the few people that I'll consider stiffing. The entitlement attitude is getting old.

That said, I generally overtip for service. You never want to be remembered as a flea or a stiff.

[mayes]

Tiger has been known for this for years. Remember that he grew up in a modest military household. Some habits are hard to break.

On the flip side, you also have to look at the tens of millions of dollars that he has spent on his science school and the other charity work that he has done. Those disadvantaged kids deserve the dollars more than the doorman.

yea i totally agree with everything you've said

What if those disadvantaged kids fathers or mothers are door persons or servers.

Great charity endeavors doesn't exclude a person from showing common courtesy. That includes Tiger or anyone else. That is why they give tax credits and relief for charitable actions.

I have a feeling that the service Tiger gets in a restaurant, or anywhere is a little better than most people get.

Not leaving a 15% tip is only takes money from another working person.

Ex. In Las Vegas, The IRS taxes all tipped positions a rate per hour (gourmet restaurant servers is around $25-50 per hour. Casual restaurant around $7-$20 ). Most servers paychecks are a negative or a few bucks. They use those tips to pay down any benefits, daily tax debt and anyone who works directly with them. These people are on compliance as well, even though they recieve indirect tips.
If no one left a tip, those people would owe the government at the end of the year what most wage employees make in a year.

Imagine the guy that make $7 per hour bussing tables but the IRS taxes you at 5.75 per hour.

If people don't tip this whole system collapses. Individuals that don't tip are basically taking money. It is the idea that saving 15% from a restaurant bill, means that the worker has to pay for it on the back end.

[celts5407]

didn't tiger give the US gov't a loan? ha! who cares if he doesn't tip some cash to some restaurant host? would you?

he donates so much to charity and good causes, leave him alone. he's THE TIGGER!!!

exactly. Tiger gives so much to charity and other good causes, who cares if he doesnt tip his waiter/waitress? The only reason b t like this gets published is because when a worker in a restaurant sees a person like Tiger that has a ton of money come in, they automatically expect a huge tip. Then if they dont get it, they say the person is cheap, a prick, or both.

Then on the other end, if Tiger went around throwing out huge tips and flaunting his money, people would call him wasteful and criticize him for the way he spends his money. He cant win either way.

[mission_scratch]

It all depends on the type of service ppl recieve.. a group of my buddies and I always go to Buffalo Wild Wings atleast once or twise a week... normally someone picks up the tab, but the other guys throw down $5 or $10 so total aroun 40 or 50 bucks for maybe a total of $100 worth of food, and we are usually there an hour or so.. (fight nights are different) but we've also been know to leave less than a few bucks for tips.. ( the service from that waiter was TERRIBLE)... so it really doesnt matter the amount of the tab, it all depends on how good the service was....

[Redman]

Tiger has been known for this for years. Remember that he grew up in a modest military household. Some habits are hard to break.

On the flip side, you also have to look at the tens of millions of dollars that he has spent on his science school and the other charity work that he has done. Those disadvantaged kids deserve the dollars more than the doorman.

yea i totally agree with everything you've said

What if those disadvantaged kids fathers or mothers are door persons or servers.

Great charity endeavors doesn't exclude a person from showing common courtesy. That includes Tiger or anyone else. That is why they give tax credits and relief for charitable actions.

I have a feeling that the service Tiger gets in a restaurant, or anywhere is a little better than most people get.

Not leaving a 15% tip is only takes money from another working person.

Ex. In Las Vegas, The IRS taxes all tipped positions a rate per hour (gourmet restaurant servers is around $25-50 per hour. Casual restaurant around $7-$20 ). Most servers paychecks are a negative or a few bucks. They use those tips to pay down any benefits, daily tax debt and anyone who works directly with them. These people are on compliance as well, even though they recieve indirect tips.
If no one left a tip, those people would owe the government at the end of the year what most wage employees make in a year.

Imagine the guy that make $7 per hour bussing tables but the IRS taxes you at 5.75 per hour.

If people don't tip this whole system collapses. Individuals that don't tip are basically taking money. It is the idea that saving 15% from a restaurant bill, means that the worker has to pay for it on the back end.

It was never the subprime lending or the auto industry that collapsed the system, it was Tiger never tipping haha. Really though, I just don't believe he never tips people. It stated that he did always pick up the tab, so maybe if he is picking up the tab for everyone he thinks they can at least tip. I don't know, maybe he is a pr!ck when it comes to this, but I find it hard to believe!

[cplof]

He doesn't have to tip 50%. But 15% would be nice.

[gmangolf]

Exactly. He can't win either way. If he gives a huge tip... everyone sticks their hand out wherever he goes. If he skimps... thats no good either. I think it could be a huge pain to have that much money! Somewhere someone would probably write an article about how Tiger Woods, the billionaire only tipped 20%.

IMO, he like everyone else should give their normal 15-20% of the bill just because its the right thing to do, and waiters and waitresses shouldn't expect any different just because he has more money than the next guy.

[mayes]

Tiger has been known for this for years. Remember that he grew up in a modest military household. Some habits are hard to break.

On the flip side, you also have to look at the tens of millions of dollars that he has spent on his science school and the other charity work that he has done. Those disadvantaged kids deserve the dollars more than the doorman.

yea i totally agree with everything you've said

What if those disadvantaged kids fathers or mothers are door persons or servers.

Great charity endeavors doesn't exclude a person from showing common courtesy. That includes Tiger or anyone else. That is why they give tax credits and relief for charitable actions.

I have a feeling that the service Tiger gets in a restaurant, or anywhere is a little better than most people get.

Not leaving a 15% tip is only takes money from another working person.

Ex. In Las Vegas, The IRS taxes all tipped positions a rate per hour (gourmet restaurant servers is around $25-50 per hour. Casual restaurant around $7-$20 ). Most servers paychecks are a negative or a few bucks. They use those tips to pay down any benefits, daily tax debt and anyone who works directly with them. These people are on compliance as well, even though they recieve indirect tips.
If no one left a tip, those people would owe the government at the end of the year what most wage employees make in a year.

Imagine the guy that make $7 per hour bussing tables but the IRS taxes you at 5.75 per hour.

If people don't tip this whole system collapses. Individuals that don't tip are basically taking money. It is the idea that saving 15% from a restaurant bill, means that the worker has to pay for it on the back end.

It was never the subprime lending or the auto industry that collapsed the system, it was Tiger never tipping haha. Really though, I just don't believe he never tips people. It stated that he did always pick up the tab, so maybe if he is picking up the tab for everyone he thinks they can at least tip. I don't know, maybe he is a pr!ck when it comes to this, but I find it hard to believe!

I wasn't refering to he general economy, I was referring to that particular market segment. Las Vegas was an example previous posters were using and that entire city would go down if tipping didn't exist. The lack of tourism in Vegas recently is making difficult for many people there. Foreclosures are at 50% because many people are going to work and leaving work with less money then when they started their shifts.

I believe that if someone picks up the tab that everyone else should cover the tip.

The point wasn't even really about Tiger. But anyone who believes that they shouldn't tip at all. If service is bad then don't. But I don't think that most people, especially celebs don't have problems with service. Not tipping as a general philosophy in a sense is taking money from another person.

[Pingnut]

He should tip at least 20% - sometimes more like 30% so as not to look like such a tightwad.

Tiger if you are reading this - man up... LOL

[Titleist1455]

Barkley has stated that same thing several times. When Tiger, Charles and Jordon would go out, Tiger was the worst tipper. He also never picks up the tab.

Since when do people still believe anything Charles Barkley says? or has ever said??

PS - it's Jordan, not Jordon

[PTBOsimon]

thats funny that tiger doesn't tip. A man with that kind of money not putting more money into the economy, could the failing economy be the result of Tiger Woods no spending his money.... someone should really look into this one.

[masegolf1978]

Exactly. He can't win either way. If he gives a huge tip... everyone sticks their hand out wherever he goes. If he skimps... thats no good either. I think it could be a huge pain to have that much money! Somewhere someone would probably write an article about how Tiger Woods, the billionaire only tipped 20%.

IMO, he like everyone else should give their normal 15-20% of the bill just because its the right thing to do, and waiters and waitresses shouldn't expect any different just because he has more money than the next guy.

Yeah, but you have to tip something. Working in Atlanta, I've gotten to know a few of the bellhops at a nice hotel where the players stay during the tour championship. Apparently, Tiger has never tipped any of them for anything (getting bags, bringing his car around, etc.) Phil on the other hand, tips each guy whenever he does anything, and threw them $50 each at the end of the week. (It pains me to say this, because I am definitely not a fan of Phil).

[HeadonaStick]

Tiger has been known for this for years. Remember that he grew up in a modest military household. Some habits are hard to break.

On the flip side, you also have to look at the tens of millions of dollars that he has spent on his science school and the other charity work that he has done. Those disadvantaged kids deserve the dollars more than the doorman.

Don't blame it on a modest military background. It is proper to tip, and military personnel tip just like anyone else. If you go to a place that accepts tipping, not to tip for good service is not paying part of the bill. If you can't afford to pay the bill then you don't go.

That said, I'm not sure this is more than unsubstantiated rumor.

[Tha_Bounce]

There is a reason why he has so much money.... he saves it 15% at a time.

[obsessedgolfer]

Common Tiges.

http://blogs.golf.com/presstent/2009/02/report-tiger-wo.html


Also from New York Post:

Waitstaff of the world, be warned: When Tiger Woods walks into your eatery, don't expect a gratuity after the meal is over. While he may have a golden grip on his golf clubs, he has a pretty firm grasp on his wallet, too. "Whenever Tiger was in Las Vegas, there was a woman who would hang out with his group, sort of as a local guide," says our source. "They would have a great time but Tiger never tips. Ever. She had to stop going out with him because it would cost her three or four hundred bucks every time they went out, since she had to keep tipping for him. Even though he paid the bill, people knew her, so [to not leave a gratuity] would reflect badly on her." Here's a tip for Tiger: Even 10 percent is better than nothing! —Roger Singer

If the woman tipped 10% the bill must be $4000, thats tip enough. I also agree with the post about Tiger doing so much for his charitys.

[gregcindyh]

Most people with money are the worst givers...just ask any church

This post has been edited by gregcindyh: Feb 3 2009, 03:56 PM

[Gem]

I don't think anyone should feel that they have to tip. It just takes the onus from the employers to give a decent wage in the first place.
I think that if you go into bars or restraunts you should get good service anyway.
I would never tip on a cruise where you have to remove tips from your bill before you have even travelled!!
I generally do give a small tip in restraunts if the food was decent or if the service was very good I just don't like it when it is expected and not earned.
If someone feels they do not tip then that is fine by me and they should not feel bad about it or get critisized for it.

Gem

[bloodred393]

300-400 tip means a 1500-2000 tab which was probably a group of people and gratuity might have already been included. Tiger probably figures that the restaurant can pay their employees decently since he just spent that much on over priced food. I tip 15-20, but I won't pass judgement on Tiger and his tightwadedness, he gives a lot to charity. I hear Jordan is notorious for not paying golf bets.

[tesla]

Surely, folks like us are not expected to tip extra when a 15-20% gratuity has already been added to our bills. Automatic gratuities are common with larger groups in most restaurants. Should athletes and celebrities be expected to tip on top of the auto gratuity??

[dubogey]

im not a tiger fan never have been never will be....and if this is true is and EVERY other person who doesnt tip, rich or poor is nothing but a piece of sh1t...period. 10%-15% nothing more nothing less is needed....if he pulled that in my place he wouldnt come back