MP57 or titleist AP2 Rating Options

[WL_Eric]

I am absolutely loving the AP2's. I've only been playing them for a week and shot my home course record of 65. I can work the ball just as much as my blades, control trajectory, and still get feedback from a mishit. I have only hit the MP 57's in the store, but they were also nice. I prefer the setup of the AP2's coming from Titleist blades.

[hmx3]

Of course no, but the discussion is about the quality of 2 high end player´s clubs and not about the quality of a Titlist tour staffer.
What I want to say is, that for my game the MP-57 is the better package and I play about 20 nat. and int. mid-am tournements and won
5 last year and 1 this year in Florida.

[jwolfe910]

I currently have both sets and have played them both long enough to say that the ap2's are hands down a better players club. From a players persective you can work either club about the same without giving either one the advantage. The big advantage the ap2's have is that they blow away the mp57's in terms of forgiviness. In fact the last time I checked on the Mizuno website not a single one of there pro's were gaming the mp57's. As for the ap2's I believe they're the most played iron on Titleist's staff. I think enough said.

[kevcarter]

Gosh, I'm kind of losing track of what to say in this thread...

It´s really funny for me to read this posts about the difference between AP 2 and MP 57. Remember both are high end Players clubs
and for a player IMO most important is to manipulate shots. But many posts are about forgiveness esp. are after hitting
on demo day or in a net. The quality of an iron will only be shown in tournements under pressure and both are a little forgiving, but
the MP 57 have more Player´s qualities.

Are you Adam Scott???

You said that "The quality of an iron will only be shown in tournements"

Just so long as it isn't Adam Scott, or just so long as it wasn't someone using AP2?

Of course no, but the discussion is about the quality of 2 high end player´s clubs and not about the quality of a Titlist tour staffer.
What I want to say is, that for my game the MP-57 is the better package and I play about 20 nat. and int. mid-am tournements and won
5 last year and 1 this year in Florida.

Hmmm, OK, it doesn't matter what Adam Scott used, he is a tour player and could use anything...

You won 6 tournaments with MP-57 and that proves your point that they are better...

Nope, still confused, don't know what to say. Oh well, congratulations to you and Mizuno on your wins!

Kevin

[freddiec]

You guys need to relax. Breath....

We don't want this thread turning into this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHjaGB_AvvQ

[kevcarter]

You guys need to relax. Breath....

We don't want this thread turning into this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHjaGB_AvvQ

I'm relaxed, heck, I even congratulated the guy AND his clubs...

Kevin

[stealthontour]

I wish I would have waited until the AP2's hit MN before I purchased my MP-57's. It's interesting to me that the Golf Magazine Club Test 2008 rated the 57's higher than the AP2's (only half star difference though). What was suprising to me is that Cobra (Pro-CB) took top honors in the better play category.

I've had my Cobra Pro CB's since mid February. Tried to sell it at first as I had couple other sets coming including AP2's which did not knock Cobras out. I'm glad that they didn't sell as my following rounds has been good with those Cobra Pro CB's so they are staying in my bag. I like them much better than MP57's and AP2's for myself. AP2 and MP57 still are very nice sets and will be suitable for many other golfers.

While demoing clubs, give Cobra Pro CB's a tryout along with AP2 and MP57's.

I've got 57's (a big mizzy fan and love the combo I've got) and recently tried the Cobra CB's at a demo day.... seriously nice, very sweet off the face, but I thought the club head was smaller than the 57's.... I haven't hit the AP2's but have seen them and the Cobra's are definatley a smaller head.

[kevcarter]

I wish I would have waited until the AP2's hit MN before I purchased my MP-57's. It's interesting to me that the Golf Magazine Club Test 2008 rated the 57's higher than the AP2's (only half star difference though). What was suprising to me is that Cobra (Pro-CB) took top honors in the better play category.

I've had my Cobra Pro CB's since mid February. Tried to sell it at first as I had couple other sets coming including AP2's which did not knock Cobras out. I'm glad that they didn't sell as my following rounds has been good with those Cobra Pro CB's so they are staying in my bag. I like them much better than MP57's and AP2's for myself. AP2 and MP57 still are very nice sets and will be suitable for many other golfers.

While demoing clubs, give Cobra Pro CB's a tryout along with AP2 and MP57's.

I've got 57's (a big mizzy fan and love the combo I've got) and recently tried the Cobra CB's at a demo day.... seriously nice, very sweet off the face, but I thought the club head was smaller than the 57's.... I haven't hit the AP2's but have seen them and the Cobra's are definatley a smaller head.

I felt the same way. I thought the Cobra was a touch smaller than the AP2 and didn't inspire as much confidence. I need to look at them together again, I wonder if it was just that the Cobra had a thinner top line???

Kevin

[jrk]

I spent some more time with the MP-57s and AP2's...every day for the last two weeks. I really wanted to like the AP2's...they are pretty easy to hit and feel pretty good...not to mention eye catching in my opinion. I thought the 57's felt more pure but I hit those a little shorter. I was ready to place an order for the AP2's and my local Pro put an MP-60 with X100 in my hand...I was blown away...twice the feel (for me) than the 57's which feel damn nice in their own regard and with the X100, which I have never spent much time with, I was hitting the most pleasing ball flight I have ever seen from my hands. I have always been under the impression this shaft was way beyond me with my 85-90 some 6 iron swing speed, but man what a difference in feel and flight. So I went back and spent more time with the AP2/PX5.5 and MP-60/X100 to make double sure, and I just could not get away from the feel and flight of the Miz. MP-60's.
My analogies to feel of all three:
MP-60/X100: Butter that has been out of the fridge for a few minutes...very solid and soft at the same time...sound was fantastic as well.
MP-57/PX5.5: Butter that has been out of the fridge for a day or two...soft but not as solid.
AP2/PX5.5: Muted synthetic soft.

MP-60 with X100's are on order.

Good luck with your decisions!

Randy

[kevcarter]

I spent some more time with the MP-57s and AP2's...every day for the last two weeks. I really wanted to like the AP2's...they are pretty easy to hit and feel pretty good...not to mention eye catching in my opinion. I thought the 57's felt more pure but I hit those a little shorter. I was ready to place an order for the AP2's and my local Pro put an MP-60 with X100 in my hand...I was blown away...twice the feel (for me) than the 57's which feel damn nice in their own regard and with the X100, which I have never spent much time with, I was hitting the most pleasing ball flight I have ever seen from my hands. I have always been under the impression this shaft was way beyond me with my 85-90 some 6 iron swing speed, but man what a difference in feel and flight. So I went back and spent more time with the AP2/PX5.5 and MP-60/X100 to make double sure, and I just could not get away from the feel and flight of the Miz. MP-60's.
My analogies to feel of all three:
MP-60/X100: Butter that has been out of the fridge for a few minutes...very solid and soft at the same time...sound was fantastic as well.
MP-57/PX5.5: Butter that has been out of the fridge for a day or two...soft but not as solid.
AP2/PX5.5: Muted synthetic soft.

MP-60 with X100's are on order.

Good luck with your decisions!

Randy

jrk,

Just curious if you tried the AP2 and MP-57s with the X-100s? Some guys don't care for the feel of the PX in any head...

Kevin

[br61]

I wish I would have waited until the AP2's hit MN before I purchased my MP-57's. It's interesting to me that the Golf Magazine Club Test 2008 rated the 57's higher than the AP2's (only half star difference though). What was suprising to me is that Cobra (Pro-CB) took top honors in the better play category.

I've had my Cobra Pro CB's since mid February. Tried to sell it at first as I had couple other sets coming including AP2's which did not knock Cobras out. I'm glad that they didn't sell as my following rounds has been good with those Cobra Pro CB's so they are staying in my bag. I like them much better than MP57's and AP2's for myself. AP2 and MP57 still are very nice sets and will be suitable for many other golfers.

While demoing clubs, give Cobra Pro CB's a tryout along with AP2 and MP57's.

I've got 57's (a big mizzy fan and love the combo I've got) and recently tried the Cobra CB's at a demo day.... seriously nice, very sweet off the face, but I thought the club head was smaller than the 57's.... I haven't hit the AP2's but have seen them and the Cobra's are definatley a smaller head.

I felt the same way. I thought the Cobra was a touch smaller than the AP2 and didn't inspire as much confidence. I need to look at them together again, I wonder if it was just that the Cobra had a thinner top line???

Kevin

I forgot to mention about Cobra's head size but you and stealthontour are correct, they are smaller than AP2 and MP57's. I thought AP2 are slightly smaller with less offset than MP57's.

When I hit several clubs on Titleist Sure-Fit cart along with many other OEM demo's. I found that I was hitting ZB the best of them all. But that was just the 6 iron and I'm going to wait until the demo days hit my course next week before determining what I might like the best. 10 different OEM's will be there over 2 day's span.

But when my swing is on, Cobra Pro CB might be the best of the shitz. Unfortunately, when my swing is off(often), it's very demanding to use.

[kevcarter]

I wish I would have waited until the AP2's hit MN before I purchased my MP-57's. It's interesting to me that the Golf Magazine Club Test 2008 rated the 57's higher than the AP2's (only half star difference though). What was suprising to me is that Cobra (Pro-CB) took top honors in the better play category.

I've had my Cobra Pro CB's since mid February. Tried to sell it at first as I had couple other sets coming including AP2's which did not knock Cobras out. I'm glad that they didn't sell as my following rounds has been good with those Cobra Pro CB's so they are staying in my bag. I like them much better than MP57's and AP2's for myself. AP2 and MP57 still are very nice sets and will be suitable for many other golfers.

While demoing clubs, give Cobra Pro CB's a tryout along with AP2 and MP57's.

I've got 57's (a big mizzy fan and love the combo I've got) and recently tried the Cobra CB's at a demo day.... seriously nice, very sweet off the face, but I thought the club head was smaller than the 57's.... I haven't hit the AP2's but have seen them and the Cobra's are definatley a smaller head.

I felt the same way. I thought the Cobra was a touch smaller than the AP2 and didn't inspire as much confidence. I need to look at them together again, I wonder if it was just that the Cobra had a thinner top line???

Kevin

I forgot to mention about Cobra's head size but you and stealthontour are correct, they are smaller than AP2 and MP57's. I thought AP2 are slightly smaller with less offset than MP57's.

When I hit several clubs on Titleist Sure-Fit cart along with many other OEM demo's. I found that I was hitting ZB the best of them all. But that was just the 6 iron and I'm going to wait until the demo days hit my course next week before determining what I might like the best. 10 different OEM's will be there over 2 day's span.

But when my swing is on, Cobra Pro CB might be the best of the shitz. Unfortunately, when my swing is off(often), it's very demanding to use.

br61,

That demo day sounds like a blast! I can't wait to hear about it!!!

Kevin

[jrk]

Kevin,
I did not get a chance to hit the AP2's with anything other than the PX. I had made my original decision to by the AP2's because they felt pretty good and were noticeably longer than the 57's with DG of which I attributed mostly to the shaft diff. I would have liked to have tried them with the DG, but this was all I had. In the end, the feel of the 60's matched with the consistency, accuracy and ball flight of the X100's won out! I'll no doubt try the AP out later with different shafts, but I think the minimalist in me yurns for the pure simplicity of an MP-60 style head.

[kevcarter]

Kevin,
I did not get a chance to hit the AP2's with anything other than the PX. I had made my original decision to by the AP2's because they felt pretty good and were noticeably longer than the 57's with DG of which I attributed mostly to the shaft diff. I would have liked to have tried them with the DG, but this was all I had. In the end, the feel of the 60's matched with the consistency, accuracy and ball flight of the X100's won out! I'll no doubt try the AP out later with different shafts, but I think the minimalist in me yurns for the pure simplicity of an MP-60 style head.

Thanks Jrk, I was just curious. Enjoy the 60s!

Kevin

[MN Golfer Guy]

I read alot about look, feel, & forgiveness between both clubs in this thread. What about ball flight? I've noticed and have been told by my pro that the MP-57 are designed to produce a higher ball flight. I'm living with a high ball flight with my 57's but I've always wondered about whether the AP2's produced a lower tragectory.

[ronster]

I read alot about look, feel, & forgiveness between both clubs in this thread. What about ball flight? I've noticed and have been told by my pro that the MP-57 are designed to produce a higher ball flight. I'm living with a high ball flight with my 57's but I've always wondered about whether the AP2's produced a lower tragectory.

I would think the tungsten insert along with the PX shaft would produce a high but flatter ball flight. I think that type of trajectory equates to the distance gain people are seeing with the AP2.

[sidewinder]

I read alot about look, feel, & forgiveness between both clubs in this thread. What about ball flight? I've noticed and have been told by my pro that the MP-57 are designed to produce a higher ball flight. I'm living with a high ball flight with my 57's but I've always wondered about whether the AP2's produced a lower tragectory.

I would think the tungsten insert along with the PX shaft would produce a high but flatter ball flight. I think that type of trajectory equates to the distance gain people are seeing with the AP2.

ronster,

I think you are correct. I've played my AP2 irons with PX 5.5 shafts for 36 holes now and have some data to compare against my MX-25 irons with DGSL stiff shafts. I don't have the distance change figured out yet but I would guess it is about half a club longer.

The course I play on most often has a strong southerly prevailing wind that comes on late morning to early afternoon. With my MX-25 irons, shots hit into the wind would have a tendency to balloon and fall shorter than you might other wise suspect. With the AP2 irons, I get higher initial ball flight but no ballooning so I get a lot more distance. This is a welcome change! This tells me that the PX shafts are lower spin than the DG. The good news is that my AP2 iron shots seem to be landing and stopping just as quickly as they did with the MX-25 irons.

The AP2 irons are great. I am very happy that I went with them instead of the MP-57 irons. I spent a decent amount of time hitting both and I like the feel, control, forgiveness, and ball flight of the AP2 irons better. My only real complaint is the chrome finish on the AP2 irons. I wish there were satin finish option.

S-

[jwolfe910]

I as well have found that my ap2's are about a club longer than my mp57's were. I've had my ap2's for a couple of months now and couldn't be happier about the change. My ap2's are longer and more forgiving than the mp57's were.

[hmx3]

The AP 2´s are .25" longer as the MP-57 in standart length, otherwise is no difference in length.

[sidewinder]

The AP 2´s are .25" longer as the MP-57 in standart length, otherwise is no difference in length.

Huh? We aren't talking about the physical length of the actual club here. We are talking about how far each club hits the ball....

S-

[jwolfe910]

I wasn't talking about the physical length. I was referring to the one club distance between the ap2's and mp 57's.

[gumpy]

Not sure if it was mentioned earlier on in the thread but GM published the moi figures for both clubs and the moi is marginally higher on the mp-57...

[jwolfe910]

I don't know how the moi is higher on the mp 57's. Having owned both clubs the ap2's are marginally higher in terms of forgivness. I'm not trying to put down the mp 57's but honestly the ap2's are more forgiving and for me they are a club longer than the mp 57's.

[fitz8888]

Not sure if it was mentioned earlier on in the thread but GM published the moi figures for both clubs and the moi is marginally higher on the mp-57...

I think either you or Golf Magazine have that backwards. Its probably Golf magazine, they aren't to well known for publishing technical specs. They are more interested in pros, cons and company lines.

Ralph Maltby tested both AP2s and MP57s and found AP2s had slightly higher MOI. He is pretty exacting when it comes to that kind of stuff.

[jwolfe910]

Personally I don't take the Maltby playability factor into to much consideration. According to the 07 maltby the 695's are more forgiving than the 755's. I've hit both and 99% of the people who have hit both would disagree. Also if you compare the 07 mp60's to the 08 mp57's the 60's are more forgiving. Honestly the mp57's are nothing more than a finally forged cavity back. I agree than do feel better on flush hits than the ap2's. But the ap2's are a cavity back with new technology. They have a dual chamber with tungsten weight to push weight to the perimeter. Like I said I've had both irons and you can't disagree with new technology. Also you can't argue with their tour play. I don't know of any pros playing the mp57's.

[LSeca]

Personally I don't take the Maltby playability factor into to much consideration. According to the 07 maltby the 695's are more forgiving than the 755's. I've hit both and 99% of the people who have hit both would disagree. Also if you compare the 07 mp60's to the 08 mp57's the 60's are more forgiving. Honestly the mp57's are nothing more than a finally forged cavity back. I agree than do feel better on flush hits than the ap2's. But the ap2's are a cavity back with new technology. They have a dual chamber with tungsten weight to push weight to the perimeter. Like I said I've had both irons and you can't disagree with new technology. Also you can't argue with their tour play. I don't know of any pros playing the mp57's.

I agree with some of what you say, namely the malby ratings. I don't agree with the 60s being better than the 57s in regards to forgiveness, but we all swing different and will have different results with different irons. Using pro usage to make an argument of "better" isn't the best way to make your point either. This logic could actually go against the AP2 irons as the number one player is using plain old fashion blades with no technology, another pro still is using Ping Eye 2s no longer in production (both players could play newer sets with new tech.). Titleist players have more reason to play the latest Titleist offering, some haven't chosen to do so though. We will all have different results, all have our reasons to choose one over another. I will say AP technology is probably better for people like me though, whether a pro uses them or not has no bearing on my game.

I did recently pick up the AP2 and AP1 set, compared them directly to the MP57. To my eye, it appears the Mizzies are right in between these two as far as size is concerned. Also, the AP2s seem to have a sharper leading edge. I may purchase an AP2 set, my only concern is reading some of the remarks they are high spin with the weight so low. I like lighter Nippon shafts and I don't know if it would be a good idea with these heads as they seem to add spin and launch anyway.

[jwolfe910]

The only way is to get on a LM. For me the ap2's are a club longer than any of my irons i've owned in the past. In the past five years I've owned the cobra 3100's, ping i5's, titleist 735's, titleist 755's, mp 57's, and now the ap2's. For me the ap2's get the ball up faster but then planes out with less spin. It's still enough spin to stop a ball on a dime.

This post has been edited by jwolfe910: Jun 10 2008, 06:29 PM

[bluebug]

Can anyone comment on the durability of AP2's? I have the MP57 and they seem to show wear / bag chatter pretty easily. My old Pings never had this issue. Both MP57 and AP2 are carbon steel but how durable is the tungsten nickel?

[Eagle006]

There has been a lot of talk about the durability of the AP1's/2's. I have owned a set of MP-57's and my buddy has AP2's and I would say the chat about the Titleist's not holding up well is exaggerated.

The MP-57's got quite a few small dinks and knocks but the wear issues with the AP2's, in my opinion, seems to be more cosmetic i.e. the polished finish does go quickly but they do not seem to be prone to quite as much bag chatter.

For what it's worth, regarding playability I have found the AP2's to be significantly more forgiving and though perhaps a touch less workable, I'd take them over the MP-57's any day. The MP-57's look and feel great (out of the middle) but unless you're a very consistent striker of the ball, the AP2's are a much better option. Just my thoughts anyway.

This post has been edited by Foster Pann: Jul 10 2008, 03:46 PM

[TeeTime907]

There has been a lot of talk about the durability of the AP1's/2's. I have owned a set of MP-57's and my buddy has AP2's and I would say the chat about the Titleist's not holding up well is exaggerated.

The MP-57's got quite a few small dinks and knocks but the wear issues with the AP2's, in my opinion, seems to be more cosmetic i.e. the polished finish does go quickly but they do not seem to be prone to quite as much bag chatter.

For what it's worth, regarding playability I have found the AP2's to be significantly more forgiving and though perhaps a touch less workable, I'd take them over the MP-57's any day. The MP-57's look and feel great (out of the middle) but unless your a fantastically consistent striker of the ball, the AP2's are a much better option. Just my thoughts anyway.

I can't compare the durability on the MP-57. However, I used to play the Titleist 735.cm Chrome 1025 Carbon.. Damn, those things has so many dinks and bag chatter marks. I will take that every time for a soft feel. Now on to the AP2's.

Now I walk or push cart and I have had my AP2 for about 3 months. As far as bag chatter. There definately not as bad as the 735's. So I'm real happy about that. To be honest I don't see hardly any bag chatter dings. As Pann said above the Polished finish doesn't look as good as when I bought them, however, still not to bad.

As far as the steel goes, I personally believe they hold up better then most 1025 Steel clubs. Any 1020 to 1025 steel are going to get marks. Just the way it goes.

This post has been edited by TeeTime907: Jul 10 2008, 02:52 PM

[buykrux]

played all day with my mp 57's today. its about my 10th round. its so much fun and feels so good.... i keep shaking my head and telling my playing partner how good it feels. I'm an 80's player.... and i can honestly say these clubs have made me a better ball striker. Its slowed down my swing and made me have a good tempo, cause i want to hit it properly. And so i hit all my clubs with a smooth tempo... from driver to wedges... more fairways and more greens. and my scores are getting lower... These clubs have made me a better golfer, and made the game even more enjoyable. these clubs are one of the best investments i've ever made... cost/fun ratio.... i don't see how mizuno could improve on these....

what irons did you use before spacedust?
i had ta2s and the mp57s are garbage compared to them
they go abolsultely no where,its like the ball dies off of the face
i got lucky and traded my 57s for ap2s NIB and expecting them next week

I currently have both sets and have played them both long enough to say that the ap2's are hands down a better players club. From a players persective you can work either club about the same without giving either one the advantage. The big advantage the ap2's have is that they blow away the mp57's in terms of forgiviness. In fact the last time I checked on the Mizuno website not a single one of there pro's were gaming the mp57's. As for the ap2's I believe they're the most played iron on Titleist's staff. I think enough said.

i found the mizunos farely forgiving but even on absolutely PURED shots, the ball seemed to die
i went from hitting a 9 iron 150 to a 7 iron 150, 210 yard 6 iron to a 3 iron :|
thats not right, maybe the shaft head combo or weaker lofts?
curious to see the ap2s

[buykrux]

I agree with some of what you say, namely the malby ratings. I don't agree with the 60s being better than the 57s in regards to forgiveness, but we all swing different and will have different results with different irons. Using pro usage to make an argument of "better" isn't the best way to make your point either. This logic could actually go against the AP2 irons as the number one player is using plain old fashion blades with no technology, another pro still is using Ping Eye 2s no longer in production (both players could play newer sets with new tech.). Titleist players have more reason to play the latest Titleist offering, some haven't chosen to do so though. We will all have different results, all have our reasons to choose one over another. I will say AP technology is probably better for people like me though, whether a pro uses them or not has no bearing on my game.

I did recently pick up the AP2 and AP1 set, compared them directly to the MP57. To my eye, it appears the Mizzies are right in between these two as far as size is concerned. Also, the AP2s seem to have a sharper leading edge. I may purchase an AP2 set, my only concern is reading some of the remarks they are high spin with the weight so low. I like lighter Nippon shafts and I don't know if it would be a good idea with these heads as they seem to add spin and launch anyway.

actually, eye2s are still in production
my dad ordered a brand new set 2 weeks ago directly from ping
they casted him a set and had them delivered in 8 days
i currently have ping eye2s and mp57s and the pings blow the 57s out of the water by a long shot
the 57s are a bit easy to work the ball but the eye2s are like lasers
the mizunos have no distance to them at all, i dont know about you guys but i dont like having to hit a 7 ot 6 iron in from 150 yards.
the pings are an easy 2 clubs longer for me
im expecting a set of ap2s next week
a buddy of mine has them and said they are sweet so im curious to see, shafted with PX 5.5s
i never did like PX shaft but i geuss we will see how it goes

[rlouthain]

I have owned both sets and definitely prefer the AP2's. I agree with an earlier post in that the AP's are a touch longer, more forgiving but less workable than their counterpart MP-57's. I will also add that the Project X 5.5's seem to lower my ball flight. As a long time DG S300 high ball hitter, I'm really warming up to the 5.5's.

[ZBigStick]

It is probably time to consider comparing the 2009 Mizuno MP-52 to the AP2.

[matthewb]

It is probably time to consider comparing the 2009 Mizuno MP-52 to the AP2.

+1.

I was just thinking the same thing.

[kevcarter]

It is probably time to consider comparing the 2009 Mizuno MP-52 to the AP2.

It is probably time to consider comparing the 2009 Mizuno MP-52 to the AP2.

+1.

I was just thinking the same thing.

I just wonder if it would change anything? The MP-57's are wonderful irons, and I'm sure the MP-52's will be even better for some people. Some like the Mizuno feel, some like the Mizuno name, ditto for Titleist. All wonderful clubs, it just comes down to personal preference. People need to try them all for themselves, pick a set, and be sure to get properly fitted! All that's left after that is to go make birdies!!!

Kevin

[matthewb]

It is probably time to consider comparing the 2009 Mizuno MP-52 to the AP2.

+1.

I was just thinking the same thing.

I just wonder if it would change anything? The MP-57's are wonderful irons, and I'm sure the MP-52's will be even better for some people. Some like the Mizuno feel, some like the Mizuno name, ditto for Titleist. All wonderful clubs, it just comes down to personal preference. People need to try them all for themselves, pick a set, and be sure to get properly fitted! All that's left after that is to go make birdies!!!

Kevin

I know what you mean, Kevin, as it generally seems that someone likes either Mizuno or Titleist irons.

For me though, it might change something as I'm currently playing Mizunos and the AP2s very nearly knocked them out of the bag this year. But I wasn't in the market for irons this season.

[kevcarter]

It is probably time to consider comparing the 2009 Mizuno MP-52 to the AP2.

+1.

I was just thinking the same thing.

I just wonder if it would change anything? The MP-57's are wonderful irons, and I'm sure the MP-52's will be even better for some people. Some like the Mizuno feel, some like the Mizuno name, ditto for Titleist. All wonderful clubs, it just comes down to personal preference. People need to try them all for themselves, pick a set, and be sure to get properly fitted! All that's left after that is to go make birdies!!!

Kevin

I know what you mean, Kevin, as it generally seems that someone likes either Mizuno or Titleist irons.

For me though, it might change something as I'm currently playing Mizunos and the AP2s very nearly knocked them out of the bag this year. But I wasn't in the market for irons this season.

I know what you mean, when I saw pics of the 52's they made ME drool!

Kevin

PS: But I'm not switching...


EDIT: Oops, it was the 62's I saw pictures of. Very nice!

This post has been edited by KevCarter: Aug 18 2008, 04:18 PM

[rekogon]

Hi,

I am a big mizuno fan for many years. I believe they hands down make the finest irons in golf. That being said...I have played the MP57's with 5.5 PX shafts all year long. I like the 57's but i wouldn't say I'm crazy about them. My Sunday golf teamate just put the AP2's 5.5 PX shafts in his bag last Sunday. Well I hit several shots all day with those clubs. I hit several shots fron the exact yardage with both clubs, say an 8 iron. What I experienced was, for me, The AP2's flew higher and went about 1/2 club longer. The thing that struck me the most about the AP'2 was how harsh they felt at impact compared to the Mizzy's. Definately harder feeling, but not bad. I couldn't take my eyes of the AP'2 all day, I think they look really hot in the bag. I think they are both very nice clubs, even though I have never been a fan of multi material heads and two piece this and that and inserts here and there in irons. Also the Ap'2 are $1000. I'm looking for new irons. I would consider the Titleists, but I'm waiting for the new Mizzy's to come out before I make my decision. Maybe MP52's. We all need a 12 step program. LOL

[seriousperforman...]

Hi,

I am a big mizuno fan for many years. I believe they hands down make the finest irons in golf. That being said...I have played the MP57's with 5.5 PX shafts all year long. I like the 57's but i wouldn't say I'm crazy about them. My Sunday golf teamate just put the AP2's 5.5 PX shafts in his bag last Sunday. Well I hit several shots all day with those clubs. I hit several shots fron the exact yardage with both clubs, say an 8 iron. What I experienced was, for me, The AP2's flew higher and went about 1/2 club longer. The thing that struck me the most about the AP'2 was how harsh they felt at impact compared to the Mizzy's. Definately harder feeling, but not bad. I couldn't take my eyes of the AP'2 all day, I think they look really hot in the bag. I think they are both very nice clubs, even though I have never been a fan of multi material heads and two piece this and that and inserts here and there in irons. Also the Ap'2 are $1000. I'm looking for new irons. I would consider the Titleists, but I'm waiting for the new Mizzy's to come out before I make my decision. Maybe MP52's. We all need a 12 step program. LOL

When you try the MP 52 you will see it's no comparison. The 52 has a smaller better looking head with more effective hitting area, is a one piece Forged iron not 3 pieces welded together, and the 52's feel much better IMO.