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Posted Ian 72 on 04 August 2013 - 03:47 PM
Posted golfpros1 on 08 February 2014 - 08:11 PM
Pros and Cons
If you go all Taylormade, you can also pretend to sign a clothing deal with Adidas Golf, which really ups your poser game. You can also be young and edgy and rock the Ashworth stuff, so the options are really endless for you. Throw in the white three striped belt and you're practically a touring pro. For all their marketing, the clubs are actually really good, so it could be a win-win this season.
The ball is great, but not for everyone, which could really mess up the relationship with your pretend sponsor, and you're also subject to those things they call wedges. Also, their staff bags and hats change every 6 months, so this is an ongoing investment that you have to consider to maintain your poser level.
If you go all Titleist, you have a nice transition from woods to putters, cause it's all pretty quality stuff. The staff bag also doesn't change often, so you can maintain your level of poser for quite a while before reinvesting. And let's face it, there's a million of these guys, so you could fly under the radar and pull this off too. You also have Footjoy to round out your look, which isn't too shabby I might add.
It's hard to find a pretend clothing deal. Sure, you can go with Oakley, Polo, UnderArmour or someone, but it feels like your poser game has lost some street cred. You also lose out on all the fuzzy feelings you get with Taylormade and Callaway marketing hype. I mean, how fun is it really to say you're hitting a <insert number> versus a JetSpeed? The models also don't really change each year, so it loses some poser edge unless you go with the story about Titleist letting you bag what you want as long as it's theirs (which requires some acting skills).
If you go all Callaway Golf, you've got some quality stuff throughout the bag. Some woods are hook central, but nothing the pro model can't fix, or a story about some custom fitting sessions in Carlsbad. Staff bags also get a big bonus, cause collecting the bombs is kind of cool, and tells you're playing parters that you're 250 yard drive is really a 320 bomb. Also, you could maybe pretend you're a professional long driver, but that really comes down to whether you can swing the club 115mph to pull off the look to unsuspecting ams that think 300 is long.
Sure, you can wear Callaway clothing, and it's pretty decent stuff, but it's not as easy to find or on sale. Those golf ball dimples also take some getting use to, but I'm sure you can work it out. Also, the endless questions about Phil could get to be too much, depending on whether you're a fan or not.
If you're a cast guy, you've found your home. These guys have lots of great options, and even touring pros will play the i series so you might be able to pull the whole thing off. Plus, you can also get your putters dipped in gold (spray paint might work), and start a room in your house. This is for the serious poser, however. Another good thing, you can pretend to sign a deal with any ball maker and still be legit.
Not everyone loves cast, so this could be an issue. You also have no clothing deal options to complete the full poser effect, though you might be able to pull it off with Oakley (especially if you say you're truck is bullet proof (don't test it out, no matter how many beers on the course you drink)).
If you're a forged guy, this is really a great way to go. Irons, wedges, and putters are top notch stuff, and you can tell stories about how samurai swords are made. Bags and hats don't change often, so you can maintain your poser level for some time. You can also pretend to be sponsored with any golf ball, but I'd stick with Titleist on this one.
Woods are not at the top of peoples list, and although their own pros will bag a TM driver, it lowers your ranking. You have no clothing deal options either, which really limits you to Oakley, Polo, UnderArmour, etc.
If you go all Nike, you have some great Nike swooshed options. Pretty quality throughout the bag overall. And when you sign a pretend deal with Nike, with it comes apparel, shoes, hats, street wear when you're not playing, etc. You can pull off the best poser image, behind TM, in the game. This is also the best option for the PLAYAS... you know who you are (no need to insert a cheap Tiger waitress joke).
You live in the shadow of Tiger, and it's creating friction with your pretend sponsor. You also would never bag anything but their blades, so you better bring your A game.
A long history of winners and majors, you follow in great footsteps. They are also a general sporting company, so you can mix in other sporting equipment to round out your pretend sponsorship. Also, they don't sponsor many people you've heard of, so in the US you have a higher chance of pulling this off (unless they are hardcore golf fans). Plus, you could make your own funny youtube commercial if you're the type.
Seriously? No, really, seriously? Where do we even begin? You have no pretend clothing deal associated with this sponsorship, let alone shoes or ball, but I suggest you're a journeyman that likes to march to the beat of your own drummer (may require acting skills) to pull this off.
You're best friends with Watson... just go with it. Besides, you were also instrumental in Els leaving Callaway. This could win you an oscar this year. BTW, their stuff is actually really good, and the shaft upgrades alone make this a smart pretend sponsorship for any poser (especially on a budget). Also, you're inside knowledge about TM owning AG makes you not only the real deal, but gives you the ability to fulfill your dream of wearing yellow shoes.
These guys are associated mainly with Champions Tour players. I know what you're saying, it's only bad for the guys under 50, but it's still a major issue to consider to pull this off.
You are the coolest kid on the block! I mean, you sip red bull all day, and party all night with the hot ladies! If you're young, this is THE pretend sponsorship this year. You got some great options with the equipment as well, and you can even COLOR COORDINATE with your other pretend sponsor, Puma.
Only for the young. Seriously, no one needs to see a 40 year old guy in orange pants. 'nough said.
Still one of the top wedge makers, and a solid overall choice. This is a nice sleeper sponsorship. You also won't have to worry about all the pressures of shooting commercials or marketing materials since they never do it. You can also link your pretend sponsorship with Srixon, which is a huge selling point if you prefer a yellow ball.
Let's be honest, this sponsorship is home for the insane. VJ is spraying antler urine or something on himself, Beljan is laying all over the course with panic attacks near death, and where do we even start watching Keegan hit a ball. You'll also have to work on a clothing deal here, and if Srixon isn't your deal, you will have a tough time pulling this one off.
Fred Couples. Yeah, that's what you're getting here, and it's a good thing. OK, everyone likes some Kuch (don't say that with your wife around), but it's all about Couples here. The equipment is actually pretty good, particularly the forged stuff. You also have a great ball selection to fit anyones game with this pretend sponsorship, and all of them are totally legit options with Lee hanging on to the lower ball speed models. You also have a lot of flexibility with this sponsor, so it could be a win-win if you're a tinkerer.
It's been a while, but didn't the woods look like something Austin Powers would use? It took some serious wind out of this sponsorship in the driver department in the past, which is why you saw some other options in the bag. Couples or no couples, Bridgestone Golf just doesn't seem to carry the kind of poser power of the others, so you have to really figure out who you want to pretend you are.
Posted PhilMickFan on 21 July 2013 - 04:27 PM
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Posted Thrillhouse on 31 October 2013 - 04:14 PM
I actually went through something similar earlier today when the subway kid cut my sandwich diagonally instead of straight across.
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Posted KjBowenWRX on 28 March 2014 - 03:45 PM
First and foremost it is my belief that your bag should be built around your wedges. Many people make the mistake and ask what wedges should I go with if I have room for 2 clubs.. Wedges or shots from 125 and in account for 60-70% of your shots.
The first thing I tell someone who asks me to help them with their short game is...
Are you a full swing player or do you like to control distance with your swing and trajectory?
It is my understanding that players who prefer full swings to hit different yardages will require more wedges. These players generally will go 52/56/60 or 50/55/60.
If you are some one who likes to use the clock system or use trajectory to hit your yardages.. this will allow for less wedges to achieve more yardages.
NEITHER IS WRONG OR BAD
The worst thing you could do is get a wedge set up that goes against your playing style or preference.
So after you have figured out which style player you are you should move on to loft.
What is you PW loft? The thing most people mistake is they must have the same gaps thru out. Yes this is a good STARTING point but should not be the end all be all.
Lets say you play a cast iron set with a cavity back PW at 47* of loft and your first wedge is a forged blade at 52*. Going from a cavity back cast club (harder metal) to a forged blade wedge (softer metal) the blade will more then likely travel less distance.
The biggest thing to be concerned with is how far does the club go? Its is great that everything is spaced out loft wise but if it doesn't equate to consistent yardage gaps it is just for show.
These are the lofts i would suggest for each player type
Full swing player:
PW - 45* PW - 46* PW - 47*
W - 50*/51* W - 51*/52* W - 52*
W - 55*/56* W - 55*/56* W - 56*
W - 60* W - 60*/61* W - 60*
PW - 45* PW - 46* PW - 47*
W - 51* W - 52* W - 52*/53*
W - 57* W - 58* W - 58*/59*
W - 62* W - Optional W - Optional
Once you figure your lofts.. Grinds and bounce should be looked at.
For a baseline:
Steeper..more digging swings require more bounce
Sweeper swings require less bounce
More advanced wedge players sometimes prefer sharper leading edges but if your a digger this can be a disaster.
Most feel players with less wedges generally have moderate bounce and some sort of a heel or back edge relief grind in order to open the face for lob shots. This is a greatly overlooked aspect of wedge selection. People just grab the loft and go. I once helped a player who has a digger and only had a 58* lob wedge. His wedge had 4* of bounce and a sharp leading edge and all he did was chunk it.
The other thing that is a huge aspect of wedge selection is turf you play on and types of sand you play on. There are many many differences in this and require alot of thought but a solid setup for your player type and swing will generally get you by no matter where you play. As a rule.. soft sand is played as more of an explosion shot and bounce is needed to assist in letting the club exit the sand and on hard packed sand its played as more of a standard chip or pitch and less bounce is needed as you will be more or less picking it off the sand more.
Another piece of the wedge selection is shafts. This is also very overlooked. You can change the way the wedge performs by simply moving to a high rev or high spin shaft. For players lacking spin on the less then full wedge shots I suggest trying a higher spinning shaft. Rifle spinner for example. These can really assist you flighting a shot and spinning on shorter shots. Also.. going to a more stiffer shaft can have the opposite effect. If you need less spin this would be the ticket for ya.
Grooves are a very misunderstood aspect of wedges. Grooves have less to do with spin then the quality of the strike from the fairway. Grooves play a much larger role when dealing with the rough. Deeper grooves will allow greater spin from rough then a wedge with shallower grooves. Wedge spin has more to do with the strike and ball selection.
You could have the best wedges with the deepest grooves with great surface roughness and if your hitting a range ball I don't care what you do that ball will not spin back hardly at all. Get a Prov1 and a worn wedge and I bet with the same strike you spin it back 100% farther. The first thing I check or ask when some one tells me I cant spin the ball is I find out the ball they are playing.
I kind of rambled a bit cause I love short game and its kind of a passion of mine but the last thing I want to say it just might be the most important.
If you buy a set of wedges and in 2 weeks say they arent working you just wasted 2 weeks of your life. Wedges take very long time to grow into. New wedges is a commitment and range time and many shots are required to get the proper feel and shot making ability with them. I suggest you get a set of wedges and dedicate some time to them. Every company makes quality wedges.. get some wedges that you like to look at... Get the lofts that fit your yardages and spend some time getting to know them. That is the only way you will grow used to them.
Wedge and Putter play is the best way to lower your scores and handicap.
Thanks for reading my little thread and if this helps one person it was worth my time to write it
Posted somaplr on 13 March 2014 - 11:22 AM
"Yeah, so you know that golf website, the one you call the "golf dork website", yeah that one, well....we are organizing a tournament to see who is the, you know, who is actually good. Oh, and btw, it's in Myrtle Beach"
Wife: "So you're driving a dozen hours to play with a bunch of other guys, who also post on this website...who you've...never met in person?"
"Yes, that's correct"
Wife: "You're an idiot"
Posted Sean2 on 24 November 2013 - 11:34 PM
Taylormade has taken a lot of hits for doing something similar.
Last year it was Nike that many people like to excoriate.
I sincerely hope this doesn't become the norm around here. C'mon folks, all the OEM's make fine golf equipment. If you don't like their equipment, if you don't like how often they release equipment, or if you don't like their commercials, that's fine.
However, that is no reason to call them names, refer to their equipment as "crap", or simply post inane, vituperative posts that are filled with nothing but venom.
How about taking the high road and leaving that nonsense at home?
Posted HighSpeedScene on 09 March 2014 - 12:40 PM
Everyone loves unrequested advice.
Posted BrianL99 on 22 January 2014 - 09:36 AM
The only people who profit from growing the game, are those who are in golf to make a profit or grow their organization: OEM's, golf courses, PGA, USGA, groups like First Tee, TV, Press, etc.
The people who lose as a result of growing the game, are the serious golfers who have played the game we love for many years and like it perfectly fine just the way it is.
The "game" TaylorMade and all the above mentioned special interests are promoting, is not golf ... it's a hybrid they're trying to create to line their pockets and expand their sphere of influence.
Posted goloworgohome on 22 July 2013 - 07:58 AM
I actually think Phil is the one that sounds ridiculous when he spouts off his "gosh darn it" or "shoot"...he sounds like a child
Posted RJRJRJ on 28 June 2013 - 02:51 AM
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